How do I l2p against shieldbraker.

Brrrofski

Honest question, what am I supposed to do about bow users spamming light attack for 2150 damage per attack. How do I compete with my health depleted in mere seconds?

I genuinely can't do a thing against bow users with this set.

Melee is fine. I can streak, put mines down.

When someone is 20 metres away spamming bow attacks, what am I honestly supposed to do?

What is the counter to that?

NobleNerd

Have a lot of health.

Other than that I am not sure there is a solid solution to the issue.

Xjcon

Heal through it? Have more health. The reason it's a thing is because of how big shields are. That person has sacrificed their build to counter yours.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Some proper defense such as maybe putting reinforce on some armor pieces or maybe some attribute points into health and not every thing into shield stacking and magicka.

Just saying you sorcs really need to stop the crying threads about shield breaker ZOS even stated that they are not making changes to it nor removing it from the game. Just invest some time and effort into a real defense instead of a bubble cause for those with out shield breaker it's still the same old song and dance.

BaldusMageezack

Stop using the shield after you die to it once. Kill the person using it because it's only really good against shields, then re shield yourself. Not the best plan but it's all i got since they felt the need to add a set with no hard counter

SeptimusDova

Grab a set study it and find out what it can an cannot do

Anhedonie

2 Overload light attacks?
Well, don't cast shields. Use roll dodge. I usually spam them with shattering prison, throw liquid lightning and try to get behind them with my lightning form on, while spaming impulse and throwing frags on proc.

nothing2591

just streak over to the shieldbreaker scrub and oneshot him with dawnbreaker of smiting

robkrush

Stop shield stacking. Focus on damage output to kill your oponates. You won't be able to 1vX like the rest of us now.

Alucardo

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Just saying you sorcs really need to stop the crying threads about shield breaker ZOS even stated that they are not making changes to it nor removing it from the game. Just invest some time and effort into a real defense instead of a bubble cause for those with out shield breaker it's still the same old song and dance.

I don't think he's crying, just generally curious as to what he can do to counter it. Honestly, there's really no counter, it's about changing your playstyle so you're not just brainlessly stacking shields.
Check out Eric's thoughts on it and how you can work with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQt5ba_lOO8&t=15m0s (SB talk starts at 15 minutes 0 seconds)

Egonieser

I see lot less of it these days. It was a thing when IC was fresh, but people have realized that they ultimately lose much more than they gain. All it is - Ashen Grip with shield breaker as 5th bonus. I much rather use Hundings Rage or Nightmother in it's stead or Ravager even.
It used to be a issue for my sorcerer at IC launch, now i maybe encounter 1 or 2 of the Shieldbreaker weilding players a day, sometimes not even that. It is annoying, but that's the least of my worries at the moment.

OrphanHelgen

Streak the oposite way

Rook_Master

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Some proper defense such as maybe putting reinforce on some armor pieces or maybe some attribute points into health and not every thing into shield stacking and magicka.

Just saying you sorcs really need to stop the crying threads about shield breaker ZOS even stated that they are not making changes to it nor removing it from the game. Just invest some time and effort into a real defense instead of a bubble cause for those with out shield breaker it's still the same old song and dance.

I was basically about to type up this same response.

All the other classes have to put points in health and mitigation. Now sorcs do as well.

MaxwellC

Invasion, fear, toppling charge; nuff said.

Dracane

Delete character and reroll another class that does not rely on shields.
Or totally destroy your own build and slot several heals only to counter an overpowered set.

Saint314Louis1985

Dracane wrote: »

Delete character and reroll another class that does not rely on shields.
Or totally destroy your own build and slot several heals only to counter an overpowered set.

if your that worried about dieing to shieldbreaker, then you wouldnt be destroying your build you would be improving it to your liking. just sayin

thelordoffelines

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Some proper defense such as maybe putting reinforce on some armor pieces or maybe some attribute points into health and not every thing into shield stacking and magicka.

Just saying you sorcs really need to stop the crying threads about shield breaker ZOS even stated that they are not making changes to it nor removing it from the game. Just invest some time and effort into a real defense instead of a bubble cause for those with out shield breaker it's still the same old song and dance.

Have you actually read what shield breaker does or are you talking out of your ass? Reinforced??? How does that help agaisnt IRRESISTBLE DAMAGE meaning it cant br resisted with physical or spell resist. So yes pls put reinforced on and waste your armor trait.

Dracane

Saint314Louis1985 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Delete character and reroll another class that does not rely on shields.
Or totally destroy your own build and slot several heals only to counter an overpowered set.

if your that worried about dieing to shieldbreaker, then you wouldnt be destroying your build you would be improving it to your liking. just sayin

Wasn't talking about myself. Just gave my suggestion.

SemiD4rkness

Im really confused, i just read a few months old thread about shieldbreaker set being useless.... Now some call it OP.
Did it get buffed or something?

Dracane

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Im really confused, i just read a few months old thread about shieldbreaker set being useless.... Now some call it OP.
Did it get buffed or something?

At the beginning, its damage was 90% lower I believe. Well, at least they increased it by 90% or so. Now it's OP
I know, it's a pain to deal with healing ward spam or with several shields . But to torture innocent 1 shield users with this outragous set, is too much

J2JMC

Doesn't shield breaker only proc on shields? If so the counter seems to be to burst them down before they burst you down. I can't imagine bursting people down as a sorc is that difficult.

I will say shield breaker is stupid and they should've just allowed us to crit on shields.

tplink3r1

So funny to see sorcs mad cause now they need more than 16k health.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Only on solution ... burn them! Burn them all!

Dracane

tplink3r1 wrote: »

So funny to see sorcs mad cause now they need more than 16k health.

As good as all Sorcs have 21k+ Health. Which is the average health of each class.
Why should Sorc be forced to stack even more ? And this doesn't promise a victory against shieldbreaker. Sorc needs everything they can get in order to deal any damage. With so much health, you need to sacrifise Magicka.

Your heals become too weak to outheal shieldbreaker, your damage becomes non existing and your shields break when an enemy looks at them. I don't think stacking 30k+ health is a good overall choice for Magicka Sorcs at least.

Xjcon

J2JMC wrote: »

Doesn't shield breaker only proc on shields? If so the counter seems to be to burst them down before they burst you down. I can't imagine bursting people down as a sorc is that difficult.

I will say shield breaker is stupid and they should've just allowed us to crit on shields.

A sorc is used to having low health and very high shields. They are glass cannons with a huge shield that can't be critical hit. So when they see their health bars start to drop to a 2500 hit it's total shock and they start to panic (not all of course). I'm not so sure it's over powered as with all PVP no one class should be without counters.

I agree with you about the need for the to be crit.

Brrrofski

I'm not "crying". I genuinely would like go know.

The only sacrifice for the users is the 5the piece. The 2,3 and 4 are all pretty good.

How am I supposed to keep dodge rolling bow light attacks. You can hit 2 a second.

Melee isn't an issue. I can counter that.

It's just the fact I can get killed by liight attack spamming from distance.

If I put 5k more health, it would take 2 more light attacks to kill me. An extra second. Hardly a counter.

Shields is a sorcs only class defense. Nightblades go stealth. Templars and dk's can self heal as well as have class shields.

No matter how much damage you can do, you cannot do it quicker than 7 or 8 bow light atracks.

Basically, my only option is to run away?

Hopefully a set is coming out next DLC with the 5th trait that sorcs can see through invisibility.

*** for tat.

I have a vet 16 Dk and a vet 2 NB, so I'm not even only talking from a sorcs point of view. I genuinely think it's mad there's something that spammable that has no real counter.

Docmandu

Don't put 64 points in magicka with all your enchants +magicka and every piece of your gear light amor focussed on spell damage + max magicka... for starters..

or.. run the other way when you meet a shield breaker bow user... there's even a loading tip that says as much.. running is a viable option.

Rioht

NobleNerd wrote: »

Have a lot of health.

Other than that I am not sure there is a solid solution to the issue.

Sorcs have the following choices:

Stack magicks to do damage, but die from any random with shield breaker.

Stack health to be safe from shield breaker, never be able to kill anything.

Try to find a balance between health and magicka and never be useful in anything. But hey, you might live sometimes?

Rioht

robkrush wrote: »

Stop shield stacking. Focus on damage output to kill your oponates. You won't be able to 1vX like the rest of us now.

I'm in a large pvp guild on ps4 and I know dks, NBS and templars who can take on 15+ guys at once (and kill them).

I don't know a single sorc that can take down anywhere near that many.

Levo18

Streak away drink a invisible potion and hide till reinforcements arrive.

Nysticc

Brrrofski wrote: »

Honest question, what am I supposed to do about bow users spamming light attack for 2150 damage per attack. How do I compete with my health depleted in mere seconds?

I genuinely can't do a thing against bow users with this set.

Melee is fine. I can streak, put mines down.

When someone is 20 metres away spamming bow attacks, what am I honestly supposed to do?

What is the counter to that?

Roll a temp. Breath of Life > Shield Breaker