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The Removal of CP Past Rank 501
tordr86b16_ESO
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Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on October 15, 2015 9:45PM The Removal of CP Past Rank 501 74 votes
Yes.
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No.
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No.What would even be gained by removing earned CP? It's not increasing their stats or giving them new passives, so why would you even have an issue with it?V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.
People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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tordr86b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.
And?Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting a free pass if the exp cap per cp is 440k as you stated in another post. Right now on the PTS Im at rank 300 , which requires 358,840 XP to progress to the next one. This is a slight improvement from the old system if you are below X rank.
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Rayste✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.
People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting screwed that a cap is in place. BUT with how the new system is working, they are actually ahead of the curve given the curve doesn't shift again .....
Gains start costing more than 400k after around 330 or so....The Teach - AD Templar0 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.
People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting screwed that a cap is in place. BUT with how the new system is working, they are actually ahead of the curve given the curve doesn't shift again .....
Gains start costing more than 400k after around 330 or so....
Getting free card again and just to remind you i don't know how we will climb from 501-1KCP with this kinda system maybe it will take us 5 years or maybe there is a plan to put em in Crown Store when it goes F2P - P2W0 -
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✭Yes.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.
People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting screwed that a cap is in place. BUT with how the new system is working, they are actually ahead of the curve given the curve doesn't shift again .....
Gains start costing more than 400k after around 330 or so....
Yep, that's the ONLY downside unless it takes them millions of XP to reach the new rank, but even then everyone else would me miles away from them since they abused the old system. Everyone else is *** no matter how you slice the cake, and ZOS has a obligation to fix something they clearly knew would go wrong when they implemented the champion system.
Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on October 15, 2015 10:20PM0 -
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✭✭✭The idea of the cap is to restrain people with large amounts of CP so others have a chance to catch up. Once a considerable amount of people reach said cap it shall be raised. Simply deleting someone's earned CP and capping it instead of just capping it is going to tick people off, plain and simple.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 15, 2015 10:29PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The idea of the cap is to restrain people with large amounts of CP so others have a chance to catch up. Once a considerable amount of people reach said cap it shall be raised. Simply deleting someone's earned CP and capping it instead of just capping it is going to tick people off, plain and simple.
But how will people catch up ? If they get punished more than people with large amount of CPs now ?
People with large amount of CPs are just gonna sit there they have advantage and they always will, i just don't understand you people why don't people with high amounts CP just play alone this game than and we can just go away...0 -
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✭Yes.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The idea of the cap is to restrain people with large amounts of CP so others have a chance to catch up. Once a considerable amount of people reach said cap it shall be raised. Simply deleting someone's earned CP and capping it instead of just capping it is going to tick people off, plain and simple.
Here's the formula PAST the cap: ((total points / (501 ^ 0.95)) + 0.08) * 400000 * 3
So people who are way above the cap DOES get a free pass on the new system. This is because people who need to grind xp from rank 338, and upwards, needs to grind MORE XP each CP than the guy's who went way beyond the cap with the OLD system.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on October 15, 2015 10:48PM0 -
BEZDNA✭✭✭✭No.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
ppl who make such pools shud lose all of there own CP not to muce such stupid pulls anymore.0 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
And?Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting a free pass if the exp cap per cp is 440k as you stated in another post. Right now on the PTS Im at rank 300 , which requires 358,840 XP to progress to the next one. This is a slight improvement from the old system if you are below X rank.
From Champion Rank 300:
To reach Champ Rank 501 under the current system you will need 80,400,000 XP
To reach Champ Rank 501 in Patch 2.2 you will need 73,052,220 XP
So that's 7 million less XP in the upcoming system
The calculator is here:
http://bigglesworth.neocities.org/index.html
Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.1 -
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✭No.Their CP banked is just there, it's not as if they can use it. No reason to remove something they've earned.0 -
tordr86b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
ppl who make such pools shud lose all of there own CP not to muce such stupid pulls anymore.
My poll is more valid than the amount of spelling errors you have.MisterBigglesworth wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
And?Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting a free pass if the exp cap per cp is 440k as you stated in another post. Right now on the PTS Im at rank 300 , which requires 358,840 XP to progress to the next one. This is a slight improvement from the old system if you are below X rank.
From Champion Rank 300:
To reach Champ Rank 501 under the current system you will need 80,400,000 XP
To reach Champ Rank 501 in Patch 2.2 you will need 73,052,220 XP
So that's 7 million less XP in the upcoming system
The calculator is here:
http://bigglesworth.neocities.org/index.html
7m is nothing compared to what people needs beyond the cap with the new system.
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MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
ppl who make such pools shud lose all of there own CP not to muce such stupid pulls anymore.
My poll is more valid than the amount of spelling errors you have.MisterBigglesworth wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
And?Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting a free pass if the exp cap per cp is 440k as you stated in another post. Right now on the PTS Im at rank 300 , which requires 358,840 XP to progress to the next one. This is a slight improvement from the old system if you are below X rank.
From Champion Rank 300:
To reach Champ Rank 501 under the current system you will need 80,400,000 XP
To reach Champ Rank 501 in Patch 2.2 you will need 73,052,220 XP
So that's 7 million less XP in the upcoming system
The calculator is here:
http://bigglesworth.neocities.org/index.html
7m is nothing compared to what people needs beyond the cap with the new system.
Beyond the cap is irrelevent (to me at least) because it does not directly impact player power and pvp balance. Some day they will raise the cap again and that will necessitate them changing the formula/scaling once again. So let's cross that bridge when we come to it.Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.1 -
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✭No.By the time they get to use their 501+ CP again loads of things have changed. Knowing ZoS amazing speed with updates, might be a year before the cap goes up again.
How many in the minatory group with 1k+ CP will still even be playing the game by than? I suspect half of them already quit after hearing about the cap.0 -
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✭Yes.MisterBigglesworth wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
ppl who make such pools shud lose all of there own CP not to muce such stupid pulls anymore.
My poll is more valid than the amount of spelling errors you have.MisterBigglesworth wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
And?Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting a free pass if the exp cap per cp is 440k as you stated in another post. Right now on the PTS Im at rank 300 , which requires 358,840 XP to progress to the next one. This is a slight improvement from the old system if you are below X rank.
From Champion Rank 300:
To reach Champ Rank 501 under the current system you will need 80,400,000 XP
To reach Champ Rank 501 in Patch 2.2 you will need 73,052,220 XP
So that's 7 million less XP in the upcoming system
The calculator is here:
http://bigglesworth.neocities.org/index.html
7m is nothing compared to what people needs beyond the cap with the new system.
Beyond the cap is irrelevent (to me at least) because it does not directly impact player power and pvp balance. Some day they will raise the cap again and that will necessitate them changing the formula/scaling once again. So let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
With my current understanding of the formula, and knowing ZOS tendency to screw things up, they probably will resume with their current formula once the cap is being raised. People who are lower will still be way behind from people who got away with the old system.
Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on October 15, 2015 11:03PM1 -
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✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »MisterBigglesworth wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Should the developers remove any CP gained after Rank 501 to re-balance the game, or simply allow people with insane amounts of CP to get a free pass on the new XP system that is coming in Wrothgar? I say remove any CP gained past the 501 cap.
ppl who make such pools shud lose all of there own CP not to muce such stupid pulls anymore.
My poll is more valid than the amount of spelling errors you have.MisterBigglesworth wrote: »tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
And?Nice poll you have there. You know it's a fair poll when the guy who makes it states his personal opinion in the question.People with insane CP don't get a "Free pass" on the new XP system, they're actually getting screwed and if you look at the math you'd realize that.
They are getting a free pass if the exp cap per cp is 440k as you stated in another post. Right now on the PTS Im at rank 300 , which requires 358,840 XP to progress to the next one. This is a slight improvement from the old system if you are below X rank.
From Champion Rank 300:
To reach Champ Rank 501 under the current system you will need 80,400,000 XP
To reach Champ Rank 501 in Patch 2.2 you will need 73,052,220 XP
So that's 7 million less XP in the upcoming system
The calculator is here:
http://bigglesworth.neocities.org/index.html
7m is nothing compared to what people needs beyond the cap with the new system.
Beyond the cap is irrelevent (to me at least) because it does not directly impact player power and pvp balance. Some day they will raise the cap again and that will necessitate them changing the formula/scaling once again. So let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
With my current understanding of the formula, and knowing ZOS tendency to screw things up, they probably will resume with their current formula once the cap is being raised. People who are lower will still be way behind from people who got away with the old system.
Definitely understand the concern. Keep in mind though, the system hasn't even gone Live yet and they already impoved the formula based on our feedback.Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.0 -
Zyle✭✭✭✭✭No.I find it funny that a cap and a catchup system isn't enough to stop the q_q about CP. Give it a rest already.
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DanielMaxwell✭✭✭No.put the cap in place and scrap the planned XP changes
the proposed XP changes actually prevent new players from ever being able to catch up to older players who play in similar play styles to them ( i.e. new grinders will always be behind the older grinders ) .1 -
sekou_trayvond✭✭✭✭✭Other.Strongly against any removal/loss of CP.
It is an excellent character tweaking system.1 -
tordr86b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.Made a champion system calc with the new formulas. You can find it here:
http://www.filedropper.com/championpointscalc
source code is here: http://www.filedropper.com/championpointscalc_1
Lemme know if you see anything wrong.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on October 16, 2015 1:49AM0
