Stamina finishers

Spearshard

@ZOS_GinaBruno is there a way we can expand on what's available for finishing moves for stamina users? For instance, as a dual wield templar I have access to radiant destruction, but it only has magica morphs. NB have a stam morph for their finisher. Perhaps add a finisher to the dual wield line, change the damage buff on hidden blade to finisher buff. Just a thought.

CP5

All DW skills become finishers with the passive, not to mention Whirlwind is a finisher as well.

Spearshard

Correct me if I'm wrong it's been a min since I looked at the dual wielding passives and whirlwind, but the passive is an extra 20% for enemies under 25 % hp. And the whirling blades gives back stam, it's not a finisher. While the 20% extra damage is not bad, I wouldn't necessarily call that a finisher, especially compared to the damage bonus of the NB, executioner from 2 handed, or radiant destruction.

SHADOW2KK

@CP5 probably means Steel Tornadoe that sorta acts as an execute while shredding numerous baddies.

Vangy

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SHADOW2KK

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Scyantific

Sorcs don't get a stamina executioner either, why should temp-

+1 make one of the less used Aedric Spear skill morphs a stam execute please.

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J2JMC

Can I have a skill that instantly refills my stamina plz

CP5

I don't have the numbers on me buf iirc whirlwind does up to 150% more damage to low health targets, less than normal executes 300%, but its an aoe.

DaveMoeDee

Scyantific wrote: »

Sorcs don't get a stamina executioner either, why should temp-

+1 make one of the less used Aedric Spear skill morphs a stam execute please.

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Spoil people with flexibility and they want every possible permutation.

Johngo0036

@J2JMC - you do, its called dying.. lol..

Spearshard

Johngo0036 wrote: »

@J2JMC - you do, its called dying.. lol..

Nah, that only refill 1/3 hp and 1/3 stam and 1/3 magica, it was nerf ed the same same time NB regeneration was for IC.

Stannum

DK has no finishers at all
Sorc has no stamina finisher

Is templar special?

Btw steel tornado is the only stamina ranged finisher, others are melee (exept of finisher Dot on bow).

Spearshard

I never saw a link to anything official, but I believe DK's ar getting a finisher (tm soon), could have just been a rumor. And, as stated above, while steel tornado does get a small damage boost, it really can't be called a finisher. The only ranged finisher is the NB magica morphs of their execute. I never said templar was special, but suggested that radiant destruction be given a stam morph. I also agree that sorcs should have a stam morph for their execute as well. Just seems an odd choice that to have a execute ability for stam users you are stuck with reverse slice from two handed.

Stannum

Spearshard wrote: »

And, as stated above, while steel tornado does get a small damage boost, it really can't be called a finisher.

Have you tested it? Due to dmg logs it boosts dmg more then twice as target health lowers.

Stannum

Spearshard wrote: »

The only ranged finisher is the NB magica morphs of their execute.

really? Is templar rediant destruction or sorc Mage's fury melee?
And steel tornado is not melee skill and it can be tested with redguard passive

Spearshard

Yeah, I've tested it, while it does excel at damaging groups of mobs, at single tsrget it doesn't work as well as a true execute. Also, the additional 100% damage is solely contingent on targets being wounded, and based on remaining hp, according to the tool tip.

Stannum

Spearshard wrote: »

Yeah, I've tested it, while it does excel at damaging groups of mobs, at single tsrget it doesn't work as well as a true execute. Also, the additional 100% damage is solely contingent on targets being wounded, and based on remaining hp, according to the tool tip.

All finishers has different efficiency. Mage's fury is even weaker then steel tornado. And Templars has one of the most OP finishers. So you do not like tornado, do not want to use 2H but want to use only stamina jesus beam. With your logic every class and weapon skilllines should have finishers.

bowmanz607

Spearshard wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong it's been a min since I looked at the dual wielding passives and whirlwind, but the passive is an extra 20% for enemies under 25 % hp. And the whirling blades gives back stam, it's not a finisher. While the 20% extra damage is not bad, I wouldn't necessarily call that a finisher, especially compared to the damage bonus of the NB, executioner from 2 handed, or radiant destruction.

So for DW it is an extra 10% damage against low health enemies. Whirling blades no longer gives back stamina but gives the major stam regen buff which is much much better than how it was before. Both whirling blades and sell tornado are ececutes. The difference is steel tornado has increased range and whirl blades has decrease vosg along with regen buff. So when a target is low health using DW you get a 300% bonus with either steel tornado or whirling blades. Plus you get the extra 10% damage on top of that for using dw. Bottom line is any finisher that scales at 25% is not m7ch help because you can use ur main dps with weaving to kill the player. Since 25% health on players is usually about 5 or 6 k. For pve those finishers work well though. So really the only execute worth using for even a stam nb is executioner cause it starts scaling at 50% health.

Spearshard

Ah, sorry, brain fail on ranged, hadn't had my coffee yet. I never said I didn't like steel tornado, I use it on trash mobs all the time, I even said it excels at that function. I just said it wouldn't be as efficient as a true finisher such as the NB variant, executioner, or RD. I also never said I only want to use Jesup beam. I suggested a stam morph for it, and if you read my original post I also suggested anot her possibility in the dual wield line, change the major brutality buff on hidden blade to an execute. No need to be insulting

bowmanz607

Spearshard wrote: »

Ah, sorry, brain fail on ranged, hadn't had my coffee yet. I never said I didn't like steel tornado, I use it on trash mobs all the time, I even said it excels at that function. I just said it wouldn't be as efficient as a true finisher such as the NB variant, executioner, or RD. I also never said I only want to use Jesup beam. I suggested a stam morph for it, and if you read my original post I also suggested anot her possibility in the dual wield line, change the major brutality buff on hidden blade to an execute. No need to be insulting

Hope your not thinking u am being insulting. Just trying to correct the information that is all. I think every execute for a class should have a morph both ways. Also, I think all executes should scale at 35% health. As it stands right now executes in pvp that scale at 25% are kind of useless.

Spearshard

Naw, @bowmanz607, I didn't think that about you, that was more directed at dancing.