CYRODIL AP , CROWN FARMING during bed time

sagent64

CYRODIL AP , CROWN FARMING during bed time i heard from players DC faction is crowning at 3:00 AM in the morning sometimes 2:00 AM...

So each time i woke up in the morning and play cyrodil im freaking getting mad at blackwater blade that map turning blue getting crown and getting all our scrolls ESO must do something about this ...

They should atleast put lock keeps or add more powerfull guard npc when the population is far from 50-50
they should like enable keep locking but those keep can still be attack but cant turn to any faction like if its REd keep and they captured they can destroy it but the keep will remain red .. annd they can capture emp keep but they cant crown emperor if the population is is EP 10 player AD 5 player DC 100 player
and they cant take AD scrolls if AD have 5 player while DC got 100 players and the score they can gain should be super minimum
So please do something about this...
add keep locking scroll and emperor keep lock if ever you gonna do this player might use it as a defense and just log out so they cant take keep but you guys can fix that easily by adding timer ...

sorry for my english i again im just sad this game is getting destroyed but this game is very awesome just liky skyrim just need some work

Xexpo

People who play in off-prime time game hours are addicted to Player vs. Door ... it can't be helped

Maybe we could start a support group to ween them off this unfortunate habit.

crowfl56

Please remember this a world game, with time zones that go 12 hours in both directions.

So what may be 3 am to you its 3 pm for someone else.

Some are AD too, but most seem to be DC or EP.

Jakhajay

Not everyone lives in your part of the world mate. Your 3am might be their 3pm.

Casdha

If anything, the guards should be weaker so a small group can run the whole map if there is no one there to guard it.

PvP stand for Player vs Player,,,,,,,, Not Player vs NPC

FYI under the same scenario as you propose If one group took it the other group couldn't come take it back if they out numbered them as is the case during the day time. No difference between 200 EP to 20 DC (daytime) vs 50 DC to 5 EP (night time) EP would never be able to get it back because of imbalance.

This argument fits for any combination of factions. I'm not taking sides as far as factions go.

vamp_emily

Smiles, I hope you are not EP whining because your Zerg went to bed.


PvP is kind of funny, a group of guys/girls fighting over the same keeps over and over. I often wonder why I like it so much.

Qyrk

Oh look, OP with his thinking that everyone lives in his time zones.

SHADOW2KK

Hehe OP as others have said, people live in different time zones, plus its a game on baby pvp.

The sun will still rise, the rivers will still flow, etc etc.

:P

sagent64

nah ..... i have a guild who also do emp farming .. they know when theres no enemy players can stop them ... one group of my guild got all members wearing emperor costume ... we even have an announcement when they gonna do emperor farming ... why dont we just make cyrodil servers seperated by timezone then that close in some hours that also help players to stop playing 24/7 which is good for their health

Acrolas

sagent64 wrote: »

... why dont we just make cyrodil servers seperated by timezone then that close in some hours that also help players to stop playing 24/7 which is good for their health

I wish there were games out there that stopped when you did and saved your progress for later. Why hasn't anybody invented one yet? Seems like a gold mine. Call it, I don't know, a "single-player game" or something...

Eirella

sagent64 wrote: »

nah ..... i have a guild who also do emp farming .. they know when theres no enemy players can stop them ... one group of my guild got all members wearing emperor costume ... we even have an announcement when they gonna do emperor farming ... why dont we just make cyrodil servers seperated by timezone then that close in some hours that also help players to stop playing 24/7 which is good for their health

LOL. You are joking, right?

Techlisp

In Guild Wars 2 WvW, servers used to pay guilds from other timezones to come in, and [cough] hold the fort while everyone was in bed.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO

I'm sorry But I just have to LOL at the OP, I work in a NOC (Network Operations Center) IRL and we are open 24/7 do not close shop on holidays, this means that when you are sleeping, there are people there, when I am sleeping, people are there, etc.

Same goes for the Game, it is a 24/7 operation, soooo... yup, keeps are gonna be taken, emperor is gonna change hands and that's how its gonna be. You may as well accept it now and handle your issues with it.

winterbornb14_ESO

Ahh PvP..................

Xexpo

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

SeptimusDova

Khajiit like to sneak. Whats in your wallet?? Hmm let me see, Ha Ha this rubber thingy. You are never going to use that. Hmm a schedule of your bedtime. woot guys easy crown now Yaaay...

Malmai

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Khajiit like to sneak. Whats in your wallet?? Hmm let me see, Ha Ha this rubber thingy. You are never going to use that. Hmm a schedule of your bedtime. woot guys easy crown now Yaaay...

HAHA

Van_0S

vamp_emily wrote: »

Smiles, I hope you are not EP whining because your Zerg went to bed.


PvP is kind of funny, a group of guys/girls fighting over the same keeps over and over. I often wonder why I like it so much.

Lol. But true

UrQuan

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

myrrrorb14_ESO

Take them back when you wake up?

Good AP to turn it back to your color.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

Take them back when you wake up?

Good AP to turn it back to your color.

Think of it this way, it gives you something to do during your playtime.

RAGUNAnoOne

What about people in places like Australia where our bedtime is their primetime, do you want them to loose out on PvP just because you need to sleep?

Reverb

UrQuan wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

No, I expect them to balance their population among the factions and not PvDoor. I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

I totally understand, and enjoy, that online games are 24/7 and global. But why do the "off hours" player band together in the same faction and campaign? Isn't that just large group PvE?

UrQuan

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

No, I expect them to balance their population among the factions and not PvDoor. I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

I totally understand, and enjoy, that online games are 24/7 and global. But why do the "off hours" player band together in the same faction and campaign? Isn't that just large group PvE?

Unbalanced population among the factions is not something that only happens while you're asleep...

Reverb

UrQuan wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

No, I expect them to balance their population among the factions and not PvDoor. I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

I totally understand, and enjoy, that online games are 24/7 and global. But why do the "off hours" player band together in the same faction and campaign? Isn't that just large group PvE?

Unbalanced population among the factions is not something that only happens while you're asleep...

which is why I said

I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

Unbalanced pops are the problem, not clocks or sleep schedules, and I've never said differently.

UrQuan

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

No, I expect them to balance their population among the factions and not PvDoor. I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

I totally understand, and enjoy, that online games are 24/7 and global. But why do the "off hours" player band together in the same faction and campaign? Isn't that just large group PvE?

Unbalanced population among the factions is not something that only happens while you're asleep...

which is why I said

I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

Unbalanced pops are the problem, not clocks or sleep schedules, and I've never said differently.

True - although I quoted you on that I wasn't necessarily intending that to be directed specifically to you, I was rather using your post to illustrate that the true problem is unbalanced populations, and that it's not an issue about "stuff that happens while I'm in bed". I should have been more clear - my bad.

Reverb

UrQuan wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

No, I expect them to balance their population among the factions and not PvDoor. I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

I totally understand, and enjoy, that online games are 24/7 and global. But why do the "off hours" player band together in the same faction and campaign? Isn't that just large group PvE?

Unbalanced population among the factions is not something that only happens while you're asleep...

which is why I said

I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

Unbalanced pops are the problem, not clocks or sleep schedules, and I've never said differently.

True - although I quoted you on that I wasn't necessarily intending that to be directed specifically to you, I was rather using your post to illustrate that the true problem is unbalanced populations, and that it's not an issue about "stuff that happens while I'm in bed". I should have been more clear - my bad.

Fair, Thank you for clarifying. I wasn't sure what in my post had prompted that response, and since I don't often speak seriously here, it's hard to tell if I'm doing it wrong

I really bristle at the accusations of "night capping" and "morning capping", and I think many feel the same way. People play when it's most convenient for them, full stop. That can be any time of day or night comparative to any other player. Where a group lands in GMT is not the cause of problems in PvP. Population imbalance and PvDoor'ing is the problem. I wish more posters focused on the behaviour and not the clock.

I don't know what the solution is. I don't have hope that players will start correcting it themselves on low volume campaigns/times, and I can't think of any programming changes Zeni could make that wouldn't inadvertently hurt competitive, small group pvp.

TheValkyn

Was in a pvp guild near launch in '14. We would crown a new emp in the guild every morning.

NoMoreChillies

My friends and I are from Australia.
We are mad USA players capture keeps while we sleep. Its poor sportsmanship. They should let us lock the keeps so USA players cannot progress in the game they love.

Am i doin this right?

UrQuan

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

kaer426 wrote: »

Oh look it's the spam of responses deflecting away from the lame pvdoor behavior
because they don't live in the same timezone....
so it's totally legit

"I can, and will, take all your keeps (including empty gate keeps) because... I play when you are sleeping."

#justified
#L2insomnia

So do you expect people in different time zones to only PVP during your time zone's peak hours? I mean, after all you're doing all of your PVP and taking all of their keeps while they're sleeping!

No, I expect them to balance their population among the factions and not PvDoor. I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

I totally understand, and enjoy, that online games are 24/7 and global. But why do the "off hours" player band together in the same faction and campaign? Isn't that just large group PvE?

Unbalanced population among the factions is not something that only happens while you're asleep...

which is why I said

I don't care what time of day or night it is to you, capping an undefended map over and over and over again is cheap, shows poor character, and is not good for the health of the game.

Unbalanced pops are the problem, not clocks or sleep schedules, and I've never said differently.

True - although I quoted you on that I wasn't necessarily intending that to be directed specifically to you, I was rather using your post to illustrate that the true problem is unbalanced populations, and that it's not an issue about "stuff that happens while I'm in bed". I should have been more clear - my bad.

Fair, Thank you for clarifying. I wasn't sure what in my post had prompted that response, and since I don't often speak seriously here, it's hard to tell if I'm doing it wrong

lol no, you're not doing it wrong. I meant my post more as "see, this is what I mean, it's population imbalance that's the problem, not what time of day people do stuff", but I was super unclear that that's what I meant...

AlnilamE

OK, I'm not an experienced PvPer, but you don't need 100 players to take a keep not being defended by players.

I almost helped take a keep with a group of 6 one time when we were running around doing some PvE on the far side of the map and decided to "take" the keep to suicide. Since we are not the kind that doesn't put up a fight, we almost taking the first flag when the NPCs killed us, and we didn't even mean to take the keep in the first place.

And why are you complaining about waking up and having something to do in PvP? Wouldn't it be boring if your faction still owned all the keeps/scrolls?