NEED HELP: VR 1 DragonKnight Stamina DPS

Artemisshrikes

Hi All,

I'm sure I'll get no end of smart ass comments for This post but here goes anyway.

I have recently just hit Veteran 1 rank on my Dragon Knight.

I currently play an nord Dragon Knight with Normal Heavy Armor (cant decide on what set to craft

I have all my skill points in Stamina at the moment

I have a Dual Wield as my main weapon with my bar set as follows Burning Breath, Unstable Flame, Igneous Weapons, Rapid Strikes, Steel Tornado, ultimate is werewolf

My second bar is 2 handed set up as follows, Extended Chains ,Rally, Green Dragon Blood, critical rush, Executioner, ultimate is Corrosive Armor.

My problem at the moment is while this worked well levelin up to veteran rank I don't seem to have the damage output I used to and my surviability is terrible.

Are there any good veteran leveling builds out there for stamina dragon knights i love using my two handed weapon but seem to get severely smashed when I do.

I PVE to haven't tried PVP.

Any help appreciated

Artemisshrikes

Any Advice Is Appreciated

Galalin

You can add me in game if you like and i can try to give you a hand. I have played since beta and a PvP junkie... @oODGROo. If your PC NA that is

DK SCRUB OUT

Artemisshrikes

I'm on xbox one, think I could get a loadout perhaps

Galalin wrote: »

You can add me in game if you like and i can try to give you a hand. I have played since beta and a PvP junkie... @oODGROo. If your PC NA that is

DK SCRUB OUT

Curragraigue

You only need one gap closer so I would recommend taking chains off your two hand bar. I would pur brawler on instead for the shield.

If you are having survival problems put GDB on both bars and put your DK shield on your dual wield bar in place of the rapid strikes. I would also put standard on as your ultimate instead of WW ult so that your dual wield can become your AoE bar and the two hand can be your single target

Artemisshrikes

Curragraigue wrote: »

You only need one gap closer so I would recommend taking chains off your two hand bar. I would pur brawler on instead for the shield.

If you are having survival problems put GDB on both bars and put your DK shield on your dual wield bar in place of the rapid strikes. I would also put standard on as your ultimate instead of WW ult so that your dual wield can become your AoE bar and the two hand can be your single target

could you give me a line up of the loadouts?

Nivzruo_ESO

As much as I hate to see more DKs in pvp.. you're on xbox and I'm PC so Idc. Here's what alot of DKs in pvp are running atleast from what I can see. Petrify, Wrecking blow, crit charge, elude/shuffle, vigor. They usually have SnB or bow on the other bar, I'd recommend going med armor thou, just put up spiked armour before each pull and its almost as good as heavy.

Gear sets, go hundings rage or ashen grip/night silence combo. OR go defensive and get whitestrake which is what I leveled my NB with. Most of this prob won't help u but maybe 1 piece of it can.

Van_0S

Use for 2h rally(buff),wreaking blow,brawler(buff and AoE),rapid maneuver(to be fast ),molten weapons/corrosive armor(buff).
DW for PvP only.
If you are running out of stamina then drink (for regent) and eat food( for damage) or remove rally and replace of with green dragon blood.

Vangy

You mentioned PVE yes? Also u seem to be a solo player. First and foremost ditch the heavy armor. You gimp your dps and recovery. Here's what I used to steam roll content to v16 and am still using it for IC solo pvp and pve. Bear in mind this is very different from group content build for pledges and trials

Main dps bar 2h
Crit Rush
Wb
Exec
Searing strikes
Rally
Ult: meteor

Defensive/utility bar : SnB
Ransack
Heroic slash/burning breath
Defensive posture/eruption/talons
Obsidian sheild
Vigor
Ull: dragon leap

Start off with obsidian + vigor + rally. Crit Rush in, apply burning breath/talons/ searing strikes. Wb away and reapply dots when necessary. Swap to SNB for Heals. Always heal right after casting obsidian shield( Morph shield to igneous shields for major mending buff).

For gear, I roll with 5 hundings, 3 endurance ( for jewellery), 2 agility ( my SnB), 2 nights silence ( my 2h and pants) and 1 molag kena shoulders. At v1 u can replace molag and the agility/endurance with another night mothers piece. Once again this is a solo build that lacks massive Aoe that helps while questing (most mobs are in packs of 3).

Vangy

Also for armor I use 5m:1H:1L. Chest and pants infused while the rest are divines.

Van_0S

Vangy wrote: »

You mentioned PVE yes? Also u seem to be a solo player. First and foremost ditch the heavy armor. You gimp your dps and recovery. Here's what I used to steam roll content to v16 and am still using it for IC solo pvp and pve. Bear in mind this is very different from group content build for pledges and trials

Main dps bar 2h
Crit Rush
Wb
Exec
Searing strikes
Rally
Ult: meteor

Defensive/utility bar : SnB
Ransack
Heroic slash/burning breath
Defensive posture/eruption/talons
Obsidian sheild
Vigor
Ull: dragon leap

Start off with obsidian + vigor + rally. Crit Rush in, apply burning breath/talons/ searing strikes. Wb away and reapply dots when necessary. Swap to SNB for Heals. Always heal right after casting obsidian shield( Morph shield to igneous shields for major mending buff).

For gear, I roll with 5 hundings, 3 agility ( for jewellery), 2 agility ( my SnB), 2 nights silence ( my 2h and pants) and 1 molag kena shoulders. At v1 u can replace molag and the agility/endurance with another night mothers piece. Once again this is a solo build that lacks massive Aoe that helps while questing (most mobs are in packs of 3).

Dude, these abilities are for Vr16 not Vr 1 and for those who have played PvP for along time. Vigor and Meteor are for pros.
I have being playing PvE content more than PvP(due to rerolling character). I found out that for steam user, I must use a pure stam race that is bosmer/redguard/imperial.

Vangy

You should have mages guild 10 by v1. Easy enough to get. As for vigor you can replace with gdb. The rest are all fine I think. And yeah I'm an imperial haha

Artemisshrikes

Vangy wrote: »

You should have mages guild 10 by v1. Easy enough to get. As for vigor you can replace with gdb. The rest are all fine I think. And yeah I'm an imperial haha

SO just use loadout I have or the one chief gave me

Artemisshrikes

like I want to keep using my Dual Wield on my primary and 2 handed on my 2nd just need a good load out for that

hardcore_gmr

Since you have your heart set on dual wield and 2h then try this....

Bar 1: DW dps
1.rapid strikes
2 . Burning Breathe
3. Steel tornado
4. Igneous Shield
5. Green dragon blood ( if you don't have alchemy skill)/reflective scales (if you do)
Ulti. Corrosive Armor

Bar 2: 2h utility
1. Crit Rush
2. Unstable flame
3. Executioner/wrecking blow (these two are interchangeable because they do about the same damage at execute range, although wrecking blow is always high damage.
4. Choking talons / Eruption
5. Forward momentum
Ulti. Standard of might

If you have access to pots especially tripots then green dragons blood is a free space. I like reflective scales here but it's really a flex spot. Rotation is simple, buff with forward momentum, crit rush, talons, burning breathe, rapid strikes/ steel tornado. Pop igneous shield if you start to take damage. Also take off heavy armor, it hurts your dps more than it helps your survivability. Use medium instead. If you are any other race than bosmer, wear 7 pieces medium, you get lower abilities cost and high stam regen. If you are Bosmer then 5 medium and 2 light (for magic recovery and lower cost) or 2 heavy (for more armor, slightly higher health and health regen) if you get a group then 1 light 1 heavy for undaunted passive.

Artemisshrikes

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Since you have your heart set on dual wield and 2h then try this....

Bar 1: DW dps
1.rapid strikes
2 . Burning Breathe
3. Steel tornado
4. Igneous Shield
5. Green dragon blood ( if you don't have alchemy skill)/reflective scales (if you do)
Ulti. Corrosive Armor

Bar 2: 2h utility
1. Crit Rush
2. Unstable flame
3. Executioner/wrecking blow (these two are interchangeable because they do about the same damage at execute range, although wrecking blow is always high damage.
4. Choking talons / Eruption
5. Forward momentum
Ulti. Standard of might

If you have access to pots especially tripots then green dragons blood is a free space. I like reflective scales here but it's really a flex spot. Rotation is simple, buff with forward momentum, crit rush, talons, burning breathe, rapid strikes/ steel tornado. Pop igneous shield if you start to take damage. Also take off heavy armor, it hurts your dps more than it helps your survivability. Use medium instead. If you are any other race than bosmer, wear 7 pieces medium, you get lower abilities cost and high stam regen. If you are Bosmer then 5 medium and 2 light (for magic recovery and lower cost) or 2 heavy (for more armor, slightly higher health and health regen) if you get a group then 1 light 1 heavy for undaunted passive.

you sure about corrosive armor people keep telling me its useles

Vangy

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Since you have your heart set on dual wield and 2h then try this....

Bar 1: DW dps
1.rapid strikes
2 . Burning Breathe
3. Steel tornado
4. Igneous Shield
5. Green dragon blood ( if you don't have alchemy skill)/reflective scales (if you do)
Ulti. Corrosive Armor

Bar 2: 2h utility
1. Crit Rush
2. Unstable flame
3. Executioner/wrecking blow (these two are interchangeable because they do about the same damage at execute range, although wrecking blow is always high damage.
4. Choking talons / Eruption
5. Forward momentum
Ulti. Standard of might

If you have access to pots especially tripots then green dragons blood is a free space. I like reflective scales here but it's really a flex spot. Rotation is simple, buff with forward momentum, crit rush, talons, burning breathe, rapid strikes/ steel tornado. Pop igneous shield if you start to take damage. Also take off heavy armor, it hurts your dps more than it helps your survivability. Use medium instead. If you are any other race than bosmer, wear 7 pieces medium, you get lower abilities cost and high stam regen. If you are Bosmer then 5 medium and 2 light (for magic recovery and lower cost) or 2 heavy (for more armor, slightly higher health and health regen) if you get a group then 1 light 1 heavy for undaunted passive.

you sure about corrosive armor people keep telling me its useles

This load out by hardcore gmr is pretty solid if u have ur heart set on DW. The only issue I see here is because u want DW as a primary there are some redundant skills on ur bars because there is no effective way around it. Now You have rapid strikes and wb which pretty much serve the same purpose. They are both single target damage stamina dumps. I'd say use executioner in place of wb like hardcore gmr suggested, that way your 2h bar can be ur execute bar while ur DW can be your primary bar.

As for corrosive armor in terms of pve dps yes it's not fantastic. I think the purpose of it here is more of a oh *** I'm dying im gona Pop this and have God mode for the next 10s. You can always replace this with flawless dawnbreaker or meteor if you wanna spice things up

Artemisshrikes

Vangy wrote: »

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Since you have your heart set on dual wield and 2h then try this....

Bar 1: DW dps
1.rapid strikes
2 . Burning Breathe
3. Steel tornado
4. Igneous Shield
5. Green dragon blood ( if you don't have alchemy skill)/reflective scales (if you do)
Ulti. Corrosive Armor

Bar 2: 2h utility
1. Crit Rush
2. Unstable flame
3. Executioner/wrecking blow (these two are interchangeable because they do about the same damage at execute range, although wrecking blow is always high damage.
4. Choking talons / Eruption
5. Forward momentum
Ulti. Standard of might

If you have access to pots especially tripots then green dragons blood is a free space. I like reflective scales here but it's really a flex spot. Rotation is simple, buff with forward momentum, crit rush, talons, burning breathe, rapid strikes/ steel tornado. Pop igneous shield if you start to take damage. Also take off heavy armor, it hurts your dps more than it helps your survivability. Use medium instead. If you are any other race than bosmer, wear 7 pieces medium, you get lower abilities cost and high stam regen. If you are Bosmer then 5 medium and 2 light (for magic recovery and lower cost) or 2 heavy (for more armor, slightly higher health and health regen) if you get a group then 1 light 1 heavy for undaunted passive.

you sure about corrosive armor people keep telling me its useles

This load out by hardcore gmr is pretty solid if u have ur heart set on DW. The only issue I see here is because u want DW as a primary there are some redundant skills on ur bars because there is no effective way around it. Now You have rapid strikes and wb which pretty much serve the same purpose. They are both single target damage stamina dumps. I'd say use executioner in place of wb like hardcore gmr suggested, that way your 2h bar can be ur execute bar while ur DW can be your primary bar.

As for corrosive armor in terms of pve dps yes it's not fantastic. I think the purpose of it here is more of a oh *** I'm dying im gona Pop this and have God mode for the next 10s. You can always replace this with flawless dawnbreaker or meteor if you wanna spice things up

I was thinking and came up with new idea

First bar - 2H Night mothers (Legendary)
Burning breath, Unstable flames, executioner , wrecking blow, rally ULT = Flawless dawnbreaker for 8% weapon damage buff

Second bar - Igenous shield, dragon fire scale, burning talons, invasion, coagulated dragon's blood, standard of might.
I should add I run 5 heavy, 2 medium. Heavy = Hunding's rage while my medium = Night mothers; all Legendary armor.
hows that look?

hardcore_gmr

Corrosive armor ignores armor and is perfect for melee builds. A lot of magic users try it and get little results from it because spells work off spell resistance, armor works for melee attacks. Corrosive armor removes all resistance from melee damage and allows your damage to hit full strength. Pop corrosive and rapid strike a few times and watch enemies melt. Plus it reduces all incoming damage to 3% of your max health. You cannot be killed while using it unless you pop it too late. I use it as soon as its ready in boss fights, and with the ultimate regeneration from spamming igneous shield its almost always ready. Because you are running corrosive armor, you never have to use sharpen on your weapons, precise trait increases your crit chance and therefore the damage you do while corrosive is active. Its my favorite ultimate, I like it more than standard of might because while defile is good to prevent healing, corrosive kills things before the get the chance to heal with the right setup.

Vangy

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Since you have your heart set on dual wield and 2h then try this....

Bar 1: DW dps
1.rapid strikes
2 . Burning Breathe
3. Steel tornado
4. Igneous Shield
5. Green dragon blood ( if you don't have alchemy skill)/reflective scales (if you do)
Ulti. Corrosive Armor

Bar 2: 2h utility
1. Crit Rush
2. Unstable flame
3. Executioner/wrecking blow (these two are interchangeable because they do about the same damage at execute range, although wrecking blow is always high damage.
4. Choking talons / Eruption
5. Forward momentum
Ulti. Standard of might

If you have access to pots especially tripots then green dragons blood is a free space. I like reflective scales here but it's really a flex spot. Rotation is simple, buff with forward momentum, crit rush, talons, burning breathe, rapid strikes/ steel tornado. Pop igneous shield if you start to take damage. Also take off heavy armor, it hurts your dps more than it helps your survivability. Use medium instead. If you are any other race than bosmer, wear 7 pieces medium, you get lower abilities cost and high stam regen. If you are Bosmer then 5 medium and 2 light (for magic recovery and lower cost) or 2 heavy (for more armor, slightly higher health and health regen) if you get a group then 1 light 1 heavy for undaunted passive.

you sure about corrosive armor people keep telling me its useles

This load out by hardcore gmr is pretty solid if u have ur heart set on DW. The only issue I see here is because u want DW as a primary there are some redundant skills on ur bars because there is no effective way around it. Now You have rapid strikes and wb which pretty much serve the same purpose. They are both single target damage stamina dumps. I'd say use executioner in place of wb like hardcore gmr suggested, that way your 2h bar can be ur execute bar while ur DW can be your primary bar.

As for corrosive armor in terms of pve dps yes it's not fantastic. I think the purpose of it here is more of a oh *** I'm dying im gona Pop this and have God mode for the next 10s. You can always replace this with flawless dawnbreaker or meteor if you wanna spice things up

I was thinking and came up with new idea

First bar - 2H Night mothers (Legendary)
Burning breath, Unstable flames, executioner , wrecking blow, rally ULT = Flawless dawnbreaker for 8% weapon damage buff

Second bar - Igenous shield, dragon fire scale, burning talons, invasion, coagulated dragon's blood, standard of might.
I should add I run 5 heavy, 2 medium. Heavy = Hunding's rage while my medium = Night mothers; all Legendary armor.
hows that look?

If your running SnB on ur second bar with so many utility skills ud have to adapt your build to incorporate some extra magicka/spell cost reduction. Also your build lacks Aoe dps. For solo it's pretty decent since not much Aoe involved in solo play. Your 2h bar is good. If u want to incorporate some Aoe in. Move burning breath to bar 2 and replace maybe invasion with steel tornado on bar 2. Throw in crit Rush in bar 1. And your all set. Also I'd strongly advise against going 5 heavy. You have so much utility in ur 2nd bar that you shouldn't need heavy armor. I'd say 5m/1h/1l so u can utilise more armor Passives.

Vangy

Also like previously pointed out corrosive armor is pretty decent if ur build is adapted to it. Personally I prefer meteor and dawnbreaker cos they just do more flat out dps in my testing. Again this has to do with personal preference and based off my own build so you could try it out and see how it works for you.

Sitting at 30k unbuffed stamina with 3000 weapon damage + 52% crit for me. This makes dawnbreaker give me 240 weapon damage off the bat and with rally.. It makes my weapon damage skyrocket. So dawnbreaker for me is irreplaceable lol.

Artemisshrikes

Vangy wrote: »

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Since you have your heart set on dual wield and 2h then try this....

Bar 1: DW dps
1.rapid strikes
2 . Burning Breathe
3. Steel tornado
4. Igneous Shield
5. Green dragon blood ( if you don't have alchemy skill)/reflective scales (if you do)
Ulti. Corrosive Armor

Bar 2: 2h utility
1. Crit Rush
2. Unstable flame
3. Executioner/wrecking blow (these two are interchangeable because they do about the same damage at execute range, although wrecking blow is always high damage.
4. Choking talons / Eruption
5. Forward momentum
Ulti. Standard of might

If you have access to pots especially tripots then green dragons blood is a free space. I like reflective scales here but it's really a flex spot. Rotation is simple, buff with forward momentum, crit rush, talons, burning breathe, rapid strikes/ steel tornado. Pop igneous shield if you start to take damage. Also take off heavy armor, it hurts your dps more than it helps your survivability. Use medium instead. If you are any other race than bosmer, wear 7 pieces medium, you get lower abilities cost and high stam regen. If you are Bosmer then 5 medium and 2 light (for magic recovery and lower cost) or 2 heavy (for more armor, slightly higher health and health regen) if you get a group then 1 light 1 heavy for undaunted passive.

you sure about corrosive armor people keep telling me its useles

This load out by hardcore gmr is pretty solid if u have ur heart set on DW. The only issue I see here is because u want DW as a primary there are some redundant skills on ur bars because there is no effective way around it. Now You have rapid strikes and wb which pretty much serve the same purpose. They are both single target damage stamina dumps. I'd say use executioner in place of wb like hardcore gmr suggested, that way your 2h bar can be ur execute bar while ur DW can be your primary bar.

As for corrosive armor in terms of pve dps yes it's not fantastic. I think the purpose of it here is more of a oh *** I'm dying im gona Pop this and have God mode for the next 10s. You can always replace this with flawless dawnbreaker or meteor if you wanna spice things up

I was thinking and came up with new idea

First bar - 2H Night mothers (Legendary)
Burning breath, Unstable flames, executioner , wrecking blow, rally ULT = Flawless dawnbreaker for 8% weapon damage buff

Second bar - Igenous shield, dragon fire scale, burning talons, invasion, coagulated dragon's blood, standard of might.
I should add I run 5 heavy, 2 medium. Heavy = Hunding's rage while my medium = Night mothers; all Legendary armor.
hows that look?

If your running SnB on ur second bar with so many utility skills ud have to adapt your build to incorporate some extra magicka/spell cost reduction. Also your build lacks Aoe dps. For solo it's pretty decent since not much Aoe involved in solo play. Your 2h bar is good. If u want to incorporate some Aoe in. Move burning breath to bar 2 and replace maybe invasion with steel tornado on bar 2. Throw in crit Rush in bar 1. And your all set. Also I'd strongly advise against going 5 heavy. You have so much utility in ur 2nd bar that you shouldn't need heavy armor. I'd say 5m/1h/1l so u can utilise more armor Passives.

so load out should be in what order?

Vangy

Kay based on ur own build I came up with an alternative that incorporates DW;

2h : crit Rush/wb/exec/unstable/rally ULT: dawnbreaker

DW: burning breath/steel tornado/talons/dragons blood/obsidian shield ULT: corrosive armor/meteor/leap/ anything u fancy really...

This should work as a starting point for you to modify. Ur DW bar is ur Aoe + utility/heals while ur primary dps is your 2h.

Vangy

Also for end game u should pvp a little to unlock caltrops and vigor. Caltrops would replace talons for an Aoe snare/dps which is stamina based while vigor replaces dragons blood as a stamina based heal. This frees up magicka for obsidian shield spam to regen stamina and ultimate. This allows u to throw everything u have into max stam and stamina cost reduction turning your build into a min/maxed wreck face build since its verrrry efficient. This is a personal opinion btw.

Artemisshrikes

so this wouldn't work
First bar - 2H Night mothers (Legendary)
Burning breath, Unstable flames, executioner , wrecking blow, rally ULT = Flawless dawnbreaker for 8% weapon damage buff

Second bar - Igenous shield, dragon fire scale, burning talons, invasion, coagulated dragon's blood, standard of might.
I should add I run 5 heavy, 2 medium. Heavy = Hunding's rage while my medium = Night mothers; all Legendary armor.

Vangy

Not saying it won't work but it just seems a little all over the place. As a stam dps ur running 5 heavy with way too many magicka based skills. You would need lots of cp and some cost reduction to use all those effectively.

Also if ur just levelling and soloing content your build is perfectly fine.

Artemisshrikes

all right

Vangy

To better explain; at v16 I have ard 11k magicka unbuffed. Assuming each skill cost u around 2500 magicka, you could use scales, talons, shield, gdb once each before ur out of magicka. U can still def make it work by moving some cp around with cost reduction enchants on jewellery but this takes focus awayr from your role as a stam dps. I'd say pick 2 of these magicka based skills that you really like and keep them while chucking the rest for stam based abilitirs that full fill the same needs.

Artemisshrikes

Vangy wrote: »

Kay based on ur own build I came up with an alternative that incorporates DW;

2h : crit Rush/wb/exec/unstable/rally ULT: dawnbreaker

DW: burning breath/steel tornado/talons/dragons blood/obsidian shield ULT: corrosive armor/meteor/leap/ anything u fancy really...

This should work as a starting point for you to modify. Ur DW bar is ur Aoe + utility/heals while ur primary dps is your 2h.

would it be bad if I switched the loadouts around making DW 1st and 2h second

Vangy

Def not. You could use main DW and 2H just for the rally and exec and throw in all the utility into this bar. Hardcore gmrs build above was def good for that role.

hardcore_gmr

I was doing some testing and I found that with the scaling of stamina based ability wrecking blow out dps executioner until 25 percent then it takes the lead by only a few points. Its secondary function of providing all 2h abilities with 18% weapon damage at execution range is immeasurably valuable, but is more suited for a 2h DPS build. I just thought that info might be useful as you figure things out. I am siding with wrecking blow though for the 20% empower secondary trait as it can buff itself.