Account-wide Achievements

Conquistador

Some achievements should be account wide. Motifs, etc. I think some kind of review should be done to determine what should be account wide.

Uneed2Stop

Conquistador wrote: »

Some achievements should be account wide. Motifs, etc. I think some kind of review should be done to determine what should be account wide.

Dude i think most things should be account wide. Like research. That would be sweeeeet. Mount training. Those things take so much time to level on one guy let alone 2 or 3. Achievements and dyes 100 percent should be account wide. I want to spend time on an alt leveling or having tons of fun, Not doing all the research and training and all that stuff over again. It would make alts more attractive to play. Because i cant find it in me to make an alt.

Twilix01

I'd be fine with achievements and their rewards like titles being account wide, as dyes and costumes already are, but I'm not so keen on motifs being account wide. Something about that rubs me the wrong way.

Fat_Cat45

The only thing I want to be account-wide is Alliance Rank. I don't want to get 2 million AP on my alts just to unlock some of the skills like Guard and Magicka Detonation

DaveMoeDee

Nothing crafting related should be account wide.

All dyes are account wide and achievements don't really matter beyond that.

Research does not take much in-game time at all. It does not stop anyone from playing. Yes, it takes a long time in real world time. But that is not a barrier to playing the game. The same for mount training.

It does take a long time for skill leveling, but why should crafting leveling be any different than weapon leveling? It should remain per character.

AngryNord

Nothing should be account-wide that already isn't.

TheShadowScout

I completely disagree with more account-side stuff, especially research, motivs, titles or alliance rank.

Want something on an alt? Play for it on that alt!

No reason for your newly created nord toon to be an alliance general just because your dunmer main is...
No reason for your newly created secondary crafting alt to know the barbaric motiv just because your main crafting alt has learned it (hint - keep all the equipment crafting on one alt, enough skillpoints for it, and then there is no trouble on learning motivs)
No reason for your newly created sorceror to have some "master wizard" title just because your main finished the mages guild storyline.
No reason for research to be shared at all, since that's an even worse can of worms with being able to start muttiple research lines on multiple characters and thereby bypass the "increased research time" thing... otherwise they'd have to make all research account-wide, which would mean starting research on one character blocks that research slot for all your characters...

Also, some achievements are a good way to keep track. Skyshards, anyone?

We already have account wide costumes, dyes, champion system and horses... that's more then most games I ever played gave. And more then enough IMO.

There is only one thing I'd like to see changed to account wide... crown-store motiv books.
At those prices, I think you should be able to draw a character-bound zero-value copy as often and as on many alts as you'd like... pay once, learn it on everyone...

Tandor

I'd welcome account-wide achievements being reviewed, with a view to dyes being made character-specific. There certainly shouldn't be any more account-wide achievements, I much prefer my characters to make their own way.

Ourorboros

Sure wish they would make Collectibles account-wide. Since they blocked bank transfer of them, they basically broke that set of achievements. Anyone who gets them all on one character now has the RNG to hit a million dollar slot in every casino in Vegas.

Everything else is fine the way it is. Quit taking short-cuts by buying motifs in the crown store, or be prepared to dig deep in your savings if you want crown store items on multiple characters.

edit: Just wanted to add I really don't care what's in the crown store except where ZOS has made getting the in-game version so incredibly difficult. like the double RNG needed to get all Glass chapters. It was done intentionally to drive people to the crown store. [insert image of raised middle finger here]

#Boycott Crown Store crafting items

NewBlacksmurf

Conquistador wrote: »

Some achievements should be account wide. Motifs, etc. I think some kind of review should be done to determine what should be account wide.

I agree and to offer people and pick up and play feel this would be awesome.
Champion points - yes
motifs - yes
mount training - heck yes
research - heck yes!

AlnilamE

AngryNord wrote: »

Nothing should be account-wide that already isn't.

Making achievements account-wide would suck all the fun out of playing alts.

Artis

Everything should be account wide. It's the players who earn those achievements, feed the horses etc, not the characters.

Lykurgis

Champion points are, and so should everything else imo.

Bhakura

Definitely horse training, its absolutly terrifying to come of a mount with 60 speed to one that has 0

Personofsecrets

Thank you op. You are right.

Personofsecrets

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you spread the word that players would be encouraged to play more if most of the things mentioned in this thread were account wide?

jcaceresw

I have asked for this several times in the past and got treated like *** from the same users. Anyway, I am with you. Most of the achievements should be account wide, specially the Alliance ones (and thus, the related skills should be unlocked for all characters).

However, what if ZOS implement achievement completion by giving CP experience? Lets say completing the main quest gives you 10 CP straight? Notice, this is not for all achievements. So, what I am proposing is a mix of account wide achievements with others that need to be completed, and those ones gives also CP as a reward (can be a quarter CP to a unspecified number depending of complexity or time consuming ones like fishing where completing it should give you at least 100 CP).

But, definitively I want the Alliance achievements (and rank progress) to be account wide (so if my main is rank 20, then my alts should be rank 20 too)

Obviously, if ZOS implements this proposal the earned achievements should give CP retroactively.

AlnilamE

Personofsecrets wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you spread the word that players would be encouraged to play more if most of the things mentioned in this thread were account wide?

I would be encouraged to play less.

jcaceresw

AlnilamE wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you spread the word that players would be encouraged to play more if most of the things mentioned in this thread were account wide?

I would be encouraged to play less.

If you read my proposal, I think you will be encouraged to play more.

Personofsecrets

AlnilamE wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you spread the word that players would be encouraged to play more if most of the things mentioned in this thread were account wide?

I would be encouraged to play less.

bye

Moonshadow66

Crazy as I am, I've done the traits research with all 8 characters. One has researched 9 traits (the last item is still going atm since I started very late), the others 8 traits (a few are still going as well since I started even later^^).
But in the end, I won't have to login with a "main crafter" when I need new gear, I just do it with the one I'm already in (I never craft Nirnhoned items anyways).
Also, they all know "all" motifs ("all" = everything but Glass, Xivkyn and Dwemer). Two characters can also craft all Dwemer gear, and one of them is about to complete Glass and Xivkyn (the one with the 9 traits). These special motifs I really do not want to learn with all characters, but I'm also ok with them being not account-wide
They're all maxed crafters (level 50) in all crafting skills, so no need to switch characters except for Glass armor. And I'm certain I won't craft Xivkyn anyways. But I want one character which can do them all, nevertheless.
None of the motifs were bought in the Crown Store, btw; all were found, except for some Glass fragements and Xivkyn pages.

All in all, I'm ok to do all these things with every character individually. It's a bit expensive, though, a bit extremely expensive, when you consider how much gold you would have gotten if you sold the items instead to research them or to break them down again.
I am/was also ok with feeding the horses for every character individually (yeah, I know, it's "training" now). Not cheap, but still ok.
I'm absolutely ok with quest achievements being not account-wide, it's always nice to see I accomplished something (again) with every next character. BUT, I'm really glad that dyes ARE account-wide; there are some achievements I cannot do again for certain reasons but came with a dye, so I still could use these dyes with my other characters, if I would want to.

What I'm NOT ok with are the monster- and fishing trophies which cannot be banked anymore. These, I definitely would want to be account-wide.

TL;DR? Just skip it^^

AlnilamE

OK. I just read it, and it's not the same to me.

To me, achievements are like a character progress report card.

Also, if Alliance Rank is ever made account wide, I will PvP until I rise to the highest rank on one toon, then create an alt in an opposing faction and run around with a lvl 10 with rank 50 that was earned by killing those players.

:-P

If people want to have a "trophy" section that accumulates achievement progress across the account, but does not affect individual achievements. For example, you earn the Undead Hoarder on one of your toons, it goes to your "trophy" section, but your other toons don't get the achievement.

But this would not apply to things like motifs, research or horse training. Those are individual character actions and they should not be account wide.

SeptimusDova

Escaping from Coldharbour should be an account wide achievement.

jcaceresw

AlnilamE wrote: »

Also, if Alliance Rank is ever made account wide, I will PvP until I rise to the highest rank on one toon, then create an alt in an opposing faction and run around with a lvl 10 with rank 50 that was earned by killing those players.

I believe in that case, they should be handled individually. I mean, your 50 alliance rank on EP wont be used on your rank 1 DC faction.

Scyantific

All titles short of PvP-exclusive titles should be account-wide.

Personofsecrets

Scyantific wrote: »

All titles short of PvP-exclusive titles should be account-wide.

Why stop at PVP titles?

jcaceresw

Scyantific wrote: »

All titles short of PvP-exclusive titles should be account-wide.

That's good for me as long the toons belong to the same faction. Else you need to earn those ranks again.

The thing with Alliance Ranks is that they give skill points when reaching the next one. I think those skill points should be given to the other toons of the same faction like CP do.

BabeestorGor

Happy with whats account wide atm remaining so for the most part
For me having things account wide spoils any sense of accomplishment or plausibility for a character. Even bank space probably shouldn't be shared. Not sure how a character in DC gets a sword forged by somebody in AD using ore mined by another person over in EC
Don't want anything else made account wide although I can see a case for CS motifs being account-wide but then ZoS would have to charge more for them

Personofsecrets

I'm not sure how exactly my character never has to use the bathroom. It is really strange.

BorrawinTheWarrior

Making too many things account wide would eventually dull the game down. Right now we all have a lot of goals set and things we want to achieve on our characters. But if you do it all on your first character, (quests, achievements, research, etc.) then the rest of your gameplay experiences with the other 7 character slots available is going to be very dull and boring.

Keeping achievements, research, and other aspects of the game unique to the characters that earned them is the best way to do it in my opinion. Setting goals and having something to work for that is worth earning and being able to say you have accomplished your goal is what will keep people playing the game.

Personofsecrets

BorrawinTheWarrior wrote: »

Making too many things account wide would eventually dull the game down. Right now we all have a lot of goals set and things we want to achieve on our characters. But if you do it all on your first character, (quests, achievements, research, etc.) then the rest of your gameplay experiences with the other 7 character slots available is going to be very dull and boring.

Keeping achievements, research, and other aspects of the game unique to the characters that earned them is the best way to do it in my opinion. Setting goals and having something to work for that is worth earning and being able to say you have accomplished your goal is what will keep people playing the game.

It also is discouraging to player to start alts as they will have to do all of the same stuff, such as earn cyrodiil based skills, or train their horse, again and again. Just imagine how many players would want to start and play alts if champion points were individual to the character.