Armor Sets @ZOS

Malmai

With the new content DLC - Imperial City all previous sets that we worked hard to get and upgrade were Nerf'd. ZOS i really wanna know what was the reason to do that ? I never played MMO in which with the new release DLC they would Nerf previous gear ?

Makkir

Malmai wrote: »

With the new content DLC - Imperial City all previous sets that we worked hard to get and upgrade were Nerf'd. ZOS i really wanna know what was the reason to do that ? I never played MMO in which with the new release DLC they would Nerf previous gear ?

LOL

I am sorry but every noteworthy MMO has had gear tiers that replaced previous ones.

What MMO were you playing? Runescape?

SirDopey

Malmai wrote: »

With the new content DLC - Imperial City all previous sets that we worked hard to get and upgrade were Nerf'd. ZOS i really wanna know what was the reason to do that ? I never played MMO in which with the new release DLC they would Nerf previous gear ?

Plenty of the V14 gear from before the patch is just as good if not better than some V16 options. And now you have new gear to work hard for instead of getting bored doing the same thing with your old gear....

Malmai

Makkir wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

With the new content DLC - Imperial City all previous sets that we worked hard to get and upgrade were Nerf'd. ZOS i really wanna know what was the reason to do that ? I never played MMO in which with the new release DLC they would Nerf previous gear ?

LOL

I am sorry but every noteworthy MMO has had gear tiers that replaced previous ones.

What MMO were you playing? Runescape?

You clearly don't understand this do you ? If you release new content its ok that gear is stronger but why nerf previous ? why just not leave it like it was ? do you play Runescape ?

Tierbook

Malmai wrote: »

You clearly don't understand this do you ? If you release new content its ok that gear is stronger but why nerf previous ? why just not leave it like it was ? do you play Runescape ?

Because otherwise you end up like WoW, with half a million health, and hitting for as much health as you had at the start of an expansion.

Shadesofkin

The gear nerfs are annoying but not a shocker. The thing that is bothering me is that gear which is tied to very very specific content is still sitting 4 veteran ranks below the cap while slightly better versions of that same gear awarded weekly is still 2 veteran ranks below cap.

Flyersfan314

What do you mean they were nerfed? Can you provide some specific examples?

Forestd16b14_ESO

It's simple ZOS hates crafting why they made crafted VR16 gear cost 10X more while it's super easy to get dropped and TVS vr16 gear.

Shadesofkin

Spell damage bonuses in gear were lowered across the board. The inherent bonus to the stats of Crafted gear was removed and brought in line with the same bonuses found on dropped gear. Several pieces were given straight up nerfs to their abilities (Skoria has a global cool down as well as a damage nerf). There are other changes that were made to gear both looted and crafted.

Gilvoth

Flyersfan314 wrote: »

What do you mean they were nerfed? Can you provide some specific examples?

wrathofrraath

I'm still using Burning Spellweave until I get Scathing Mage, have had no DPS problems yet

Shadesofkin

wrathofrraath wrote: »

I'm still using Burning Spellweave until I get Scathing Mage, have had no DPS problems yet

You're using Spellweave? I thought I was the only person in the world who used that. (Not kidding, I really thought I was alone).

wrathofrraath

Shadesofkin wrote: »

wrathofrraath wrote: »

I'm still using Burning Spellweave until I get Scathing Mage, have had no DPS problems yet

You're using Spellweave? I thought I was the only person in the world who used that. (Not kidding, I really thought I was alone).

We are probably the only two people in the game who put our faith in double burning procs : /

Flaminir

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

It's simple ZOS hates crafting why they made crafted VR16 gear cost 10X more while it's super easy to get dropped and TVS vr16 gear.

Assuming that you haven't been trying to actually get this dropped V16 gear then?

The drop rate is a ***, and the RNG on it both for the set, the specific piece, and then the trait is horrific.

It's far far quicker to get the mats for crafted stuff.... that's why so many magicka builds have gone for Kagrenacs Hope instead of farming for stuff like Scathing Mage etc.

(TVS gear I agree.... super easy to get... but then it's pretty much all junk/novelty sets and certainly not best in slot for any role)

itscompton

The worst thing concerning crafted gear that came out of this update is that none of the old self crafted sets are able to be made at anything above 14. One of my favorite parts of this game was that there was such a huge variety of crafted gear that you could mix and match based on what you wanted to do. While dropped gear had some better stats the crafted gear was close enough that being able to craft 8 or 9 trait sets really meant something. Now not being able to craft above Vet 14 made all those sets basically obsolete and all the research was wasted time.

Flaminir

itscompton wrote: »

The worst thing concerning crafted gear that came out of this update is that none of the old self crafted sets are able to be made at anything above 14. One of my favorite parts of this game was that there was such a huge variety of crafted gear that you could mix and match based on what you wanted to do. While dropped gear had some better stats the crafted gear was close enough that being able to craft 8 or 9 trait sets really meant something. Now not being able to craft above Vet 14 made all those sets basically obsolete and all the research was wasted time.

@itscompton Ummmm.... you do know that you CAN craft gear at V16 don't you?

All of the original stuff can still be crafted at V16 with the new mats.... in fact they did buff some of the crafted stuff... EG Kagrenacs Hope has a big 5 piece spell damage buff & is now one of the best in slot sets for healers.... and being used at V16 by a LOT of DPS builds as the drop rate on the new dropped stuff is so rubbish.

I'm running V16 Kagrenacs Hope and using V16 Torugs pact weapons on most of my magicka builds right now.

maxlacab16_ESO

itscompton wrote: »

The worst thing concerning crafted gear that came out of this update is that none of the old self crafted sets are able to be made at anything above 14. One of my favorite parts of this game was that there was such a huge variety of crafted gear that you could mix and match based on what you wanted to do. While dropped gear had some better stats the crafted gear was close enough that being able to craft 8 or 9 trait sets really meant something. Now not being able to craft above Vet 14 made all those sets basically obsolete and all the research was wasted time.

Sure you can craft all of the old sets! Just need the new mats is all. And for the v16 versions, well they take 10x the amount of mats the v15 need... Oh, and for the glyphs you can use or decon found v15 runes/glyps and for the v16 ones you need to buy the new runes for 800TVS a piece to craft them...

Or buy the tri stat glyphs off of players who were lucky enough to loot them. Think they go for around 50k.

olsborg

Archmage....whyyy. You didnt change this sets 5 set bonus...you broke it. Completely useless now, completely.

Cherryblossom

itscompton wrote: »

The worst thing concerning crafted gear that came out of this update is that none of the old self crafted sets are able to be made at anything above 14. One of my favorite parts of this game was that there was such a huge variety of crafted gear that you could mix and match based on what you wanted to do. While dropped gear had some better stats the crafted gear was close enough that being able to craft 8 or 9 trait sets really meant something. Now not being able to craft above Vet 14 made all those sets basically obsolete and all the research was wasted time.

You can still craft Sets at VR16, where did you get the impression you couldn't!

itscompton

I went to the Allesias Bulwark crafting station to check out the bonuses for Vet 15 and 16 versions and it wouldn't let me scroll over to the new material but with the way this game is sometimes it was probably just a glitch, But when it happened I assumed that you couldn't craft existing sets beyond Vet 14, glad to hear that's not the case, Thanks for the info, looking forward to crafting my new armor when I hit 15.

Vez

itscompton wrote: »

I went to the Allesias Bulwark crafting station to check out the bonuses for Vet 15 and 16 versions and it wouldn't let me scroll over to the new material but with the way this game is sometimes it was probably just a glitch, But when it happened I assumed that you couldn't craft existing sets beyond Vet 14, glad to hear that's not the case, Thanks for the info, looking forward to crafting my new armor when I hit 15.

Uncheck "Have items" at the top of the crafting interface.

Brrrofski

Granted you can craft items at 16, but getting hold of 1000+ mats is not fun.

It's just time consuming grinding. It's not like other mats where you obtain whilst questing