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ZOSs intentions for the future of the game

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Do you think ZOSs intetions for the future are to revive it and have it become one of the most popular mmos on the market or to keep it alive just enough to have a little income but accept the fact that it didn't do to well.
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  • Stikato
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    Create additional grinding content, and continue to develop the crown store.

    I guess that doesn't answer your question, but that is what they are going to do.
    Edited by Stikato on September 29, 2015 3:33PM
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Do you think ZOSs intetions for the future are to revive it and have it become one of the most popular mmos on the market or to keep it alive just enough to have a little income but accept the fact that it didn't do to well.

    You speak as if it's already dead, when it's not. Zenimax will take this game whichever way works best for this game, not competition against others. In the end, it's still The Elder Scrolls Online, and that's plenty for me.
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  • Morimizo
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    Stikato wrote: »
    Create additional grinding content, and continue to develop the crown store.

    Those two aspects are certainly the truth, but not exclusive of each other; the grind compliments and necessitates the store.

    Also, will continue to "balance" / ruin skills and create CP caps based ONLY on PVP concerns, with zero thought for affects on Group or Solo PVE.



  • phbell
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    I believe that ZOS has the best of intentions, but never forget that this is a business and the ultimate mission of any business is to make money for its investors. To achieve this a business has to attract talented employees, pay salaries and benefits, cover overhead... and ...oh yeah... have something to sell. In our case it is ESOTU. All of this costs $$$$$$, and a lot of it.

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    I read a lot of threads packed full of whining about CP, Crown Store items, benefits of subscription, content, etc. and I wonder if those people complaining realize how the bills get paid. Like it or not, new motifs and recipes are created and made intentionally difficult to develop (e.g. Glass, Psyjic Ambrosia, exotic new motifs, et. al.) so that people will buy them in the crown store. Doing so pays salaries and light bills. People should stop complaining by calling it P2W and realize that without it there will be no ESO.

    I will agree that ZOS appears a bit rudderless lately (at least to me) and if I were King of ZOS i would be ignoring all the drama around CP's and "nerf this, nerf that" and instead invest the resources in fixing the performance issues. The longer the problems like lag, loading screens and crashes continue, the more customer will find other games to play.

    </rant>

    But I digress. I suppose I mean to say that if one likes the game then they should support it through crown store purchases and subscriptions (clearly I do not think F2P was a wise move). The only possible way that this game can improve and thrive is if Zenimax improves and thrives, and that takes revenue. Support your local Crown Store!

    Sorry folks.... That's the way the world works. Only happiness is free. Everything else costs money.
  • Sausage
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    I personally think ES-series is Bethesda's baby and they love to watch how it grows. Its not about popularity or money, well of course its but not so much as people thikn. How would they just forget 20+ year of ES history in their company.
    Edited by Sausage on September 29, 2015 4:35PM
  • ArrerBoy
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    Sausage wrote: »
    I personally think ES-series is Bethesda's baby and they love to watch how it grows. Its not about popularity or money, well of course its but not so much as people thikn. How would they just forget 20+ year of ES history in their company.

    They don't. ZOS however does, as they handled lore pretty poorly at release. The IC dlc has them backpedaling on some of it though.

  • Sausage
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    ArrerBoy wrote: »
    Sausage wrote: »
    I personally think ES-series is Bethesda's baby and they love to watch how it grows. Its not about popularity or money, well of course its but not so much as people thikn. How would they just forget 20+ year of ES history in their company.

    They don't. ZOS however does, as they handled lore pretty poorly at release. The IC dlc has them backpedaling on some of it though.

    Whats your point? Fallout 4 seems to be on track to make massive sales, that should keep Bethesda alive. Also I believe ESO is already turning profit.
    Edited by Sausage on September 29, 2015 4:40PM
  • Divinius
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    Milk the players for as much $$$ as they can before the whole system crashes and burns.

    This means dumping most all development effort into stuff that can be put in the crown store, and avoiding any development work that doesn't directly translate to $$$ earned.
  • Saltypretzels
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    phbell wrote: »
    I believe that ZOS has the best of intentions, but never forget that this is a business and the ultimate mission of any business is to make money for its investors. To achieve this a business has to attract talented employees, pay salaries and benefits, cover overhead... and ...oh yeah... have something to sell. In our case it is ESOTU. All of this costs $$$$$$, and a lot of it.

    <rant>
    I read a lot of threads packed full of whining about CP, Crown Store items, benefits of subscription, content, etc. and I wonder if those people complaining realize how the bills get paid. Like it or not, new motifs and recipes are created and made intentionally difficult to develop (e.g. Glass, Psyjic Ambrosia, exotic new motifs, et. al.) so that people will buy them in the crown store. Doing so pays salaries and light bills. People should stop complaining by calling it P2W and realize that without it there will be no ESO.

    I will agree that ZOS appears a bit rudderless lately (at least to me) and if I were King of ZOS i would be ignoring all the drama around CP's and "nerf this, nerf that" and instead invest the resources in fixing the performance issues. The longer the problems like lag, loading screens and crashes continue, the more customer will find other games to play.

    </rant>

    But I digress. I suppose I mean to say that if one likes the game then they should support it through crown store purchases and subscriptions (clearly I do not think F2P was a wise move). The only possible way that this game can improve and thrive is if Zenimax improves and thrives, and that takes revenue. Support your local Crown Store!

    Sorry folks.... That's the way the world works. Only happiness is free. Everything else costs money.

    They aren't keeping the lights on with their blatant cash grabs that destabilize the game. They can keep the lights on with legitimate DLC. All the bonus money is going to shareholders. Let's not kid ourselves here.
  • robkrush
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    I hear rumers zinging around the forums that you'll be able to buy gear from the crown store!
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  • Callous2208
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    robkrush wrote: »
    I hear rumers zinging around the forums that you'll be able to buy gear from the crown store!

    You read one thread wondering if this would happen one day. :p
  • UltimaJoe777
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    robkrush wrote: »
    I hear rumers zinging around the forums that you'll be able to buy gear from the crown store!

    That's not a rumor, it's wishful thinking and will never happen.
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  • BigM
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    Worse decision they made was the megaserver. I bet if they would of went with like 3 or 4 realms instead things would be a lot better.
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  • Callous2208
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    BigM wrote: »
    Worse decision they made was the megaserver. I bet if they would of went with like 3 or 4 realms instead things would be a lot better.

    Maybe. I've seen the good and the bad from both strategies as I'm sure you have as well. PvP of course the thing most affected. Faction balance and what have you. But perhaps end game group content would also take a hit unless the group finder was totally revamped.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    BigM wrote: »
    Worse decision they made was the megaserver. I bet if they would of went with like 3 or 4 realms instead things would be a lot better.

    I must disagree. The megaserver allows for many different instances which is what seperates people when quest progress makes an area different for one than another. Without the megaserver this would not be possible.
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  • firstdecan
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    Do you think ZOSs intetions for the future are to revive it and have it become one of the most popular mmos on the market or to keep it alive just enough to have a little income but accept the fact that it didn't do to well.

    Given all the senior positions ZoS currently has open, they're probably just trying to keep the game going long enough to find people who can improve the game.
  • Divinius
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    The megaserver allows for many different instances which is what seperates people when quest progress makes an area different for one than another. Without the megaserver this would not be possible.
    That.... has nothing to do with it. You can have multiple servers and still have instancing and "shards", "channels", "phases" or whatever you want to call them. Other games have done this. You don't need to be limited to a single server to have these features.
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    firstdecan wrote: »
    Given all the senior positions ZoS currently has open, they're probably just trying to keep the game going long enough to find people who can improve the game.

    Careful! It's against the rules to bash ZOS employees. And at a hyper-conservative company like this, an employee starts at the employment listing, not at hiring.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    If they fix crafting I can see bright things in the future.
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    Do you think ZOSs intetions for the future are to revive it and have it become one of the most popular mmos on the market or to keep it alive just enough to have a little income but accept the fact that it didn't do to well.

    I think ZOS has already answered your question for you. The downward slide to the eventual P2W shop is already in full swing. They have already shown that the only priority now is milking players for what they can while it lasts. PC players endured lie after lie about the state and direction of the game not to mention almost a year with no new content..all so they could set up the B2P conversion and time it to maximize profits with consoles.. all at the expense of PC players who had been paying a sub the whole time. Complete and total disregard for it's paying PC customers.

    If their intention was to "become one of the most popular mmos on the market" I think they would have show a bit more respect to their PC players instead of treating them like suckers. No. This game will sadly deteriorate into cash shop mediocrity at best or at worst end up like NW (who at least had the transparency to release the game as a cash shop ripoff instead of doing a bait and switch).
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Divinius wrote: »
    The megaserver allows for many different instances which is what seperates people when quest progress makes an area different for one than another. Without the megaserver this would not be possible.
    That.... has nothing to do with it. You can have multiple servers and still have instancing and "shards", "channels", "phases" or whatever you want to call them. Other games have done this. You don't need to be limited to a single server to have these features.

    Except it isn't a single server. It is a single server housing many more servers.
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  • phairdon
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    BigM wrote: »
    Worse decision they made was the megaserver. I bet if they would of went with like 3 or 4 realms instead things would be a lot better.

    Look how empty certain parts of this game are now, 3 or 4 realms would only exacerbate this problem. Gw2 is a good example of a game suffering massive population imbalances when the game started, with 24 home world instances for both NA & EU. You could run around pve zones & encounter no other players. This meant players could not do a lot of content outside of dynamic events (quests). Once the mageservers came in, this changed for the pve side. World vs world still suffers from population disparity, making some weekly rounds a complete joke.
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  • angelyn
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    Stikato wrote: »
    Create additional grinding content, and continue to develop the crown store.

    I guess that doesn't answer your question, but that is what they are going to do.

    ^ This

    Implement as much grind as possible, in order to generate as much inconvenience as possible, so that they can maximise profits by selling "convenience " to players.

  • nimander99
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    angelyn wrote: »
    Stikato wrote: »
    Create additional grinding content, and continue to develop the crown store.

    I guess that doesn't answer your question, but that is what they are going to do.

    ^ This

    Implement as much grind as possible, in order to generate as much inconvenience as possible, so that they can maximise profits by selling "convenience " to players.

    It's pretty obvious. I just hope for some really cool quest lines, I play this game for the stories and the scenery.
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