A logical CP catch up idea

robkrush

Make Champ Points purchasable in the crown store. We can already buy XP potions from the crown that we use to grind CP so why not skip the middleman and just sell us CP directly. That way it's fair for casuals.

We can already buy tri stat food and drinks in the crown store. We can already buy tri potions in the crown store. Let's quit pretending we are playing a game that rewards skill AND dedication and go full P2W.

They should also sell us gear in the crown store. That way we don't even have to play the game. That'd be awesome! Then I can log in once a week or comeback from playing a different game and be instantly as good as everyone else. Otherwise I'll get killed in PVP, and I won't get chosen for PVE dungeons, and I'll quit.

CGPsaint

No. Just no. Please stop encouraging Zo$ to spend time and effort on the Crown Store, when said time and effort should be spent finding actual solutions to the issues that plague this game.

Besides, given their current model, I'm guessing it would be 10 CP for 1000 Crowns. Do the math and get back to me after you see how much coin you would have to drop to even remotely close the gap.

terrordactyl1971

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

robkrush

CGPsaint wrote: »

No. Just no. Please stop encouraging Zo$ to spend time and effort on the Crown Store, when said time and effort should be spent finding actual solutions to the issues that plague this game.

Besides, given their current model, I'm guessing it would be 10 CP for 1000 Crowns. Do the math and get back to me after you see how much coin you would have to drop to even remotely close the gap.

That's OK cause the people who don't have time to grind CP are working so they can afford to buy their CP. Obviously ZOS will have to set a fair price.

One other thing, I don't have time to play the game so I'm gonna need to be able to purchase skill points from the crown store too. Thanks!

Brrrofski

I got a feeling OP is trolling.

I mean, I'm not 100% here, just got a gut feeling...

Divinius

I also think it would be much more "convenient" if I could just buy a VR16 character, already leveled. Would save me the time of having to level a new class.

My only question would be: Would all of the skills come pre-leveled as well? Or do I have to buy those separately?

robkrush

Brrrofski wrote: »

I got a feeling OP is trolling.

I mean, I'm not 100% here, just got a gut feeling...

Are you accusing me of trolling?!?!?!?

How dare you! That's against forum rules.

Im "entitled" to voice my thoughts and feelings no matter how ridiculous and selfish they may be.

robkrush

Divinius wrote: »

I also think it would be much more "convenient" if I could just buy a VR16 character, already leveled. Would save me the time of having to level a new class.

My only question would be: Would all of the skills come pre-leveled as well? Or do I have to buy those separately?

I think it can come with the skills being as we already know which ones youll choose.

Templar - radiant destruction

Nightblade - snipe

Sorc - crystal frags

Dragonknight - wrecking blow

UltimaJoe777

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

Xeven

He's being sarcastic because he thinks there should be no CP cap.

I tell u what there Rob, lets just remove the VR cap, then we can have VR nine thousand players running around in Cyrodiil squashing any new players like flys. That way we know they will quit, because the alternative is the equivalent of 600 eight hour days of grinding to be competitive.

Thats logical right? Lol this guy is a gem.

corrosivechains

yeah, wouldn't say OP is trolling but is obviously being facetious.

That said the CP cap is necessary at this point, it's not a matter of convenience vs time invested.

robkrush

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

Xeven

Rob, why do you even care? I honestly want to know.

Sausage

That was my original idea. Ive suggested 400% or 800% CP-boosters to them, but Zen didnt care about it. I suppose we know whats the plan is when we know more about "seasonal" cap. IMHO, catch-up is, grind or pay. Im gonna be pissed off if later when they need money, start to sell some stupid stuff, as now they have a chance to do so. Isnt it odd, that extra revenue stream didnt appeal them.

RatedChaotic

Ya the rich kids will dominate. How about you just but some exp boosts to catch up.

robkrush

Xeven wrote: »

Rob, why do you even care? I honestly want to know.

I saw this amazing chart in the forums yesterday that totally convinced me that CP point stacking was perfect linar progression. So now I want to have 1200 CP points so I can go God mode on poor people who cant afford to buy their CP points.

The first part of my plan is obviously to get CP points in the crown store so I came to forums where any idiot can speak directly to the devs and the group that crys the loudest gets their way.

Xeven

Thats what I thought.

Morimizo

Perhaps they could also add a "free-to-wait" sort of vibe;

Each player character has energy, and can last through maybe one or two quests, before needing to sleep.

Now, you can either exit the game and wait for 24 hours, or buy "Ener-var stones" for $5 a piece to keep playing immediately.

Enjoy!!

Divinius

Morimizo wrote: »

Perhaps they could also add a "free-to-wait" sort of vibe;

Each player character has energy, and can last through maybe one or two quests, before needing to sleep.

Now, you can either exit the game and wait for 24 hours, or buy "Ener-var stones" for $5 a piece to keep playing immediately.

Enjoy!!

I think I've seen that game on Facebook.

robkrush

Morimizo wrote: »

Perhaps they could also add a "free-to-wait" sort of vibe;

Each player character has energy, and can last through maybe one or two quests, before needing to sleep.

Now, you can either exit the game and wait for 24 hours, or buy "Ener-var stones" for $5 a piece to keep playing immediately.

Enjoy!!

I like that. Keeps "immersion".

So long as the clock ain't running in the loading screens.

UltimaJoe777

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

As was stated against your other post in that other thread do you even know what P2W means?

XP boosters? This game is already super easy enough to reach max level in without it. A minor convenience at best for those with less time and patience.

Tri-consumables? I can make those, and better to boot. Why worry if someone buys that junk from the crown store?

Horse training? So you're getting faster mount speed and more mount stamina sooner than those that don't buy them from crown store, big deal. Have fun with the extra carry capacity since it isn't game-breaking.

Malachite? Yeah that is currently the only material in the crown store and Malachite Shards are not that rare. Treasure hunt and you can farm them relatively easily.

Now let us compare that to what you're saying. What you're saying is the best stuff in the game should all be in the crown store so rich kids with nothing better to spend their money on can instantly become top tier. That is pay to win. What we have now? Nothing but cosmetics.

robkrush wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Rob, why do you even care? I honestly want to know.

I saw this amazing chart in the forums yesterday that totally convinced me that CP point stacking was perfect linar progression. So now I want to have 1200 CP points so I can go God mode on poor people who cant afford to buy their CP points.

The first part of my plan is obviously to get CP points in the crown store so I came to forums where any idiot can speak directly to the devs and the group that crys the loudest gets their way.

Obvious troll is obvious though.

Morimizo wrote: »

Perhaps they could also add a "free-to-wait" sort of vibe;

Each player character has energy, and can last through maybe one or two quests, before needing to sleep.

Now, you can either exit the game and wait for 24 hours, or buy "Ener-var stones" for $5 a piece to keep playing immediately.

Enjoy!!

I have played text-based games like that. If you want to make people that actually pay to play a game in any way do something like this then have fun losing players. This kind of stuff is not going to happen in a graphic-based game.

Now if you do want to add this energy system you could easily make sleep viable in this game like it was in TESV: Skyrim, except it recharges your energy rather than grant an xp bonus. Sounds like it'd be a good idea but it wouldn't since in-game time of day is server-based and not player-based. If they did do this it would further seperate people by instance so they can all be in the same time of day. Upside is people can change the time of day to suit their needs freely but downside is far too much work to implement properly.

robkrush

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

As was stated against your other post in that other thread do you even know what P2W means?

XP boosters? This game is already super easy enough to reach max level in without it. A minor convenience at best for those with less time and patience.

Tri-consumables? I can make those, and better to boot. Why worry if someone buys that junk from the crown store?

Horse training? So you're getting faster mount speed and more mount stamina sooner than those that don't buy them from crown store, big deal. Have fun with the extra carry capacity since it isn't game-breaking.

Malachite? Yeah that is currently the only material in the crown store and Malachite Shards are not that rare. Treasure hunt and you can farm them relatively easily.

Now let us compare that to what you're saying. What you're saying is the best stuff in the game should all be in the crown store so rich kids with nothing better to spend their money on can instantly become top tier. That is pay to win. What we have now? Nothing but cosmetics.

As was stated earlier, in the same thread, this chart came from the internet. Who are YOU to question its ultimate authority on the subject of P2W?

UltimaJoe777

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

As was stated against your other post in that other thread do you even know what P2W means?

XP boosters? This game is already super easy enough to reach max level in without it. A minor convenience at best for those with less time and patience.

Tri-consumables? I can make those, and better to boot. Why worry if someone buys that junk from the crown store?

Horse training? So you're getting faster mount speed and more mount stamina sooner than those that don't buy them from crown store, big deal. Have fun with the extra carry capacity since it isn't game-breaking.

Malachite? Yeah that is currently the only material in the crown store and Malachite Shards are not that rare. Treasure hunt and you can farm them relatively easily.

Now let us compare that to what you're saying. What you're saying is the best stuff in the game should all be in the crown store so rich kids with nothing better to spend their money on can instantly become top tier. That is pay to win. What we have now? Nothing but cosmetics.

As was stated earlier, in the same thread, this chart came from the internet. Who are YOU to question its ultimate authority on the subject of P2W?

Oh I'm not questioning it, I'm ignoring it. I know this game is not P2W and if it ever became so I would quit. I've quit plenty of games that turned out P2W that otherwise had potential and I'd quit this one too if it turned out the same. It may be The Elder Scrolls, but I am strongly against P2W MMORPGs and right now, TESO is not one of them.

Learn to distinguish P2W by your own perspective rather than some chart nobody cares about.

robkrush

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

As was stated against your other post in that other thread do you even know what P2W means?

XP boosters? This game is already super easy enough to reach max level in without it. A minor convenience at best for those with less time and patience.

Tri-consumables? I can make those, and better to boot. Why worry if someone buys that junk from the crown store?

Horse training? So you're getting faster mount speed and more mount stamina sooner than those that don't buy them from crown store, big deal. Have fun with the extra carry capacity since it isn't game-breaking.

Malachite? Yeah that is currently the only material in the crown store and Malachite Shards are not that rare. Treasure hunt and you can farm them relatively easily.

Now let us compare that to what you're saying. What you're saying is the best stuff in the game should all be in the crown store so rich kids with nothing better to spend their money on can instantly become top tier. That is pay to win. What we have now? Nothing but cosmetics.

As was stated earlier, in the same thread, this chart came from the internet. Who are YOU to question its ultimate authority on the subject of P2W?

Oh I'm not questioning it, I'm ignoring it. I know this game is not P2W and if it ever became so I would quit. I've quit plenty of games that turned out P2W that otherwise had potential and I'd quit this one too if it turned out the same. It may be The Elder Scrolls, but I am strongly against P2W MMORPGs and right now, TESO is not one of them.

Learn to distinguish P2W by your own perspective rather than some chart nobody cares about.

Why is your perspective the law around here? Its not. I'm telling you, many many many people consider ESO P2W. Your opinion has no more value than theirs, in fact, presentation is a big part of convincing people of things, you might work on that a bit.

UltimaJoe777

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

As was stated against your other post in that other thread do you even know what P2W means?

XP boosters? This game is already super easy enough to reach max level in without it. A minor convenience at best for those with less time and patience.

Tri-consumables? I can make those, and better to boot. Why worry if someone buys that junk from the crown store?

Horse training? So you're getting faster mount speed and more mount stamina sooner than those that don't buy them from crown store, big deal. Have fun with the extra carry capacity since it isn't game-breaking.

Malachite? Yeah that is currently the only material in the crown store and Malachite Shards are not that rare. Treasure hunt and you can farm them relatively easily.

Now let us compare that to what you're saying. What you're saying is the best stuff in the game should all be in the crown store so rich kids with nothing better to spend their money on can instantly become top tier. That is pay to win. What we have now? Nothing but cosmetics.

As was stated earlier, in the same thread, this chart came from the internet. Who are YOU to question its ultimate authority on the subject of P2W?

Oh I'm not questioning it, I'm ignoring it. I know this game is not P2W and if it ever became so I would quit. I've quit plenty of games that turned out P2W that otherwise had potential and I'd quit this one too if it turned out the same. It may be The Elder Scrolls, but I am strongly against P2W MMORPGs and right now, TESO is not one of them.

Learn to distinguish P2W by your own perspective rather than some chart nobody cares about.

Why is your perspective the law around here? Its not. I'm telling you, many many many people consider ESO P2W. Your opinion has no more value than theirs, in fact, presentation is a big part of convincing people of things, you might work on that a bit.

Never said it was law, it's just common sense. Those that believe ESO is currently P2W are not looking at the fact that every item in the store is for the most part easily replaced by other in-game capabilities or purely cosmetic. Now if you were to develop a chart that tells how much of ESO's population actually believe it is P2W then that might be worth addressing. Otherwise you would do well to get your facts straight, friend.

robkrush

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

As was stated against your other post in that other thread do you even know what P2W means?

XP boosters? This game is already super easy enough to reach max level in without it. A minor convenience at best for those with less time and patience.

Tri-consumables? I can make those, and better to boot. Why worry if someone buys that junk from the crown store?

Horse training? So you're getting faster mount speed and more mount stamina sooner than those that don't buy them from crown store, big deal. Have fun with the extra carry capacity since it isn't game-breaking.

Malachite? Yeah that is currently the only material in the crown store and Malachite Shards are not that rare. Treasure hunt and you can farm them relatively easily.

Now let us compare that to what you're saying. What you're saying is the best stuff in the game should all be in the crown store so rich kids with nothing better to spend their money on can instantly become top tier. That is pay to win. What we have now? Nothing but cosmetics.

As was stated earlier, in the same thread, this chart came from the internet. Who are YOU to question its ultimate authority on the subject of P2W?

Oh I'm not questioning it, I'm ignoring it. I know this game is not P2W and if it ever became so I would quit. I've quit plenty of games that turned out P2W that otherwise had potential and I'd quit this one too if it turned out the same. It may be The Elder Scrolls, but I am strongly against P2W MMORPGs and right now, TESO is not one of them.

Learn to distinguish P2W by your own perspective rather than some chart nobody cares about.

Why is your perspective the law around here? Its not. I'm telling you, many many many people consider ESO P2W. Your opinion has no more value than theirs, in fact, presentation is a big part of convincing people of things, you might work on that a bit.

Never said it was law, it's just common sense. Those that believe ESO is currently P2W are not looking at the fact that every item in the store is for the most part easily replaced by other in-game capabilities or purely cosmetic. Now if you were to develop a chart that tells how much of ESO's population actually believe it is P2W then that might be worth addressing. Otherwise you would do well to get your facts straight, friend.

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EddieHavok

I already bought the Imperial Ed for the PS4, so that makes me feel entitled to having a v14 character with max horse /s. Now, I was given a wedding ring for 10% boost, but you can grind that same xp for just 10% more time, and the fact that I was given a horse, ring, and some treasure maps for paying more for the game, might be considered by some P2W because I paid to be better faster. However, with the PC vets its almost like this game is Play to Win, what up with that?

Forestd16b14_ESO

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

You can make EXP boost, tri pots, tri food, and can level your mount up with out using the crown store. There not P2W there just for lazy players who don't want to waste the time or effort making it there own.

You even know what a real P2W is? If not here's a example. If there is a item that comes to the crown store that actual gives you a giant advantage over the other players such as a powerful weapon that has tri leeching powers that leech all 3 resources for 1,000 points from a enemy with each hit and it's trait is penetration and defending rolled into one while also at gold level giving it's enchantment more power and making it's traits at 12% and you can only get it in the crown store and buying it using your real life money then it is a pay to win cause you are spending your real life money on something that can only be obtained by real life money to gain a unfair advantage over the other players.

That is a P2W not potions or food that you can also make.

SleepyTroll

WTF am I reading.

robkrush

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.







I'm just taking the next "logical" step. If you don't believe me you could start a poll. Thatll draw some attention.

You can make EXP boost, tri pots, tri food, and can level your mount up with out using the crown store. There not P2W there just for lazy players who don't want to waste the time or effort making it there own.

You even know what a real P2W is? If not here's a example. If there is a item that comes to the crown store that actual gives you a giant advantage over the other players such as a powerful weapon that has tri leeching powers that leech all 3 resources for 1,000 points from a enemy with each hit and it's trait is penetration and defending rolled into one while also at gold level giving it's enchantment more power and making it's traits at 12% and you can only get it in the crown store and buying it using your real life money then it is a pay to win cause you are spending your real life money on something that can only be obtained by real life money to gain a unfair advantage over the other players.

That is a P2W not potions or food that you can also make.

Sorry but you are forgetting an important piece. Time. If cash items allow you to become stronger at a faster rate and ultimately win, that is pay to win. If you can acquire items that make you stronger, even if those items are grindable, that is P2W. Duh.

Scyantific

robkrush wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

That's called "pay to win", just about the best way to destroy a game for good.

So yeah you can forget about your "logical idea" ever happening, or even being logical OP.

ESO is already P2W.

XP boosts, tri food, tri pots, horse training, mats. All purchasable with cash.

XP Boost can be bought with gold. This is the only one that makes sense since even with Provisioning bonuses a Crown Scroll is still more effective.

Tri-pots/Tri-food: Crown consumables are remarkably worse than crafted pots and foods. Also they only scale up to v10. We have v15 foods and pots already.

Malachite is a cosmetic appearance item. Unless you're playing the economic game these are worthless.

Horse training is also invalid. Get RM and go hog wild. And being mounted alone in Cyro is a surefire way to get ganked.

So in other words: please put more effort into your troll posts.