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Did they stealth Nerf the Re Arming Trap Exploit HAHAHAHA!!
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Itoq✭✭✭✭Hits
0-4 rearms once
5-8 twice
9-12 three times
13-16 four times
Make the ranged trap the same except 60% of the damage.
Something similar has probably already been brought up.0 -
NDwarf✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »NOOOOOOooooooo........ I just learned about this ability and was enjoying it so much. Watching AD funnel into a door way in Imperial City and die to a trap was hilarious. A stack of dead AD players laying in a doorway and I'm hiding watching another guy run up, stop, look at the bodies, look at the trap, then proceed to run into the doorway and die.
*** I had to wipe a tear away I was laughing so hard. It was like a Family Guy moment. The icing on the cake would of been if the guy drop dead from a trap, fell down, and his arm was behind his back.
so you have fun at the expense of exploiting against other players?
Yep.
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Spend a skill point, leveling up trap, morph it, then set the O button on my Ps4 controller to use said skill provided by the game, and use it as intended... is an exploit. Seems legit.
Anyway, it was fun for a night or two. Good times. Hopefully traps will still be deadly and add a whole new level of tactical combat post patch.0 -
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✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »NOOOOOOooooooo........ I just learned about this ability and was enjoying it so much. Watching AD funnel into a door way in Imperial City and die to a trap was hilarious. A stack of dead AD players laying in a doorway and I'm hiding watching another guy run up, stop, look at the bodies, look at the trap, then proceed to run into the doorway and die.
*** I had to wipe a tear away I was laughing so hard. It was like a Family Guy moment. The icing on the cake would of been if the guy drop dead from a trap, fell down, and his arm was behind his back.
so you have fun at the expense of exploiting against other players?
Yep.
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Spend a skill point, leveling up trap, morph it, then set the O button on my Ps4 controller to use said skill provided by the game, and use it as intended... is an exploit. Seems legit.
Anyway, it was fun for a night or two. Good times. Hopefully traps will still be deadly and add a whole new level of tactical combat post patch.
"Tactical combat post patch", you mean "place trap on load door or next to it and kill anyone who has no chance in the world to avoid it?"2 -
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✭But did they do anything about it spamming its damage on the rooted target if you are a certain distance away? You know, the mechanic that could make it kill anything?0 -
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✭✭✭MrBeatDown wrote: »
who are you?MrBeatDown wrote: »I heard it doesn't work anymore
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Not looking for the pug first boss farm group.
Traps exploit got stealth nerfed HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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Whisper @MrBeatDown for Pro Tank (with bow) runs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Im the number 1 Pro Tank on NA EP
Who are you? Some mad pug runner because he cant speed farm bosses?
I was under the impression that you were using the exploit.1 -
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✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »NOOOOOOooooooo........ I just learned about this ability and was enjoying it so much. Watching AD funnel into a door way in Imperial City and die to a trap was hilarious. A stack of dead AD players laying in a doorway and I'm hiding watching another guy run up, stop, look at the bodies, look at the trap, then proceed to run into the doorway and die.
*** I had to wipe a tear away I was laughing so hard. It was like a Family Guy moment. The icing on the cake would of been if the guy drop dead from a trap, fell down, and his arm was behind his back.
so you have fun at the expense of exploiting against other players?
Yep.
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Spend a skill point, leveling up trap, morph it, then set the O button on my Ps4 controller to use said skill provided by the game, and use it as intended... is an exploit. Seems legit.
Anyway, it was fun for a night or two. Good times. Hopefully traps will still be deadly and add a whole new level of tactical combat post patch.
You were aware of the ability being broken. You were aware that it was considered exploiting to use a broken ability for an unfair advantage. You chose to use it. I knew about it, did I spend a skill point and use it/morph it just to abuse the exploit because I knew about it? no.
This is why DisgracefulMind is right in saying that "players like you are what's wrong with this community." but I'd go even further and say that it's what is wrong with gamers in general these days, especially the younger generation of gamer's. No consideration or empathy for the player on the other side who's a victim to one's exploitative behavior.--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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MrBeatDown✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »
I was under the impression that you were using the exploit.
No, I am the tank when I run the dungeon. Don't need the exploit to beat this easy run. It takes players that understand the mechanics are properly geared to handle this simple dungeon. It also requires experience doing It on normal mode if you don't know how to do it. I wont lie, I have never even attempted to run this dungeon on normal. I only do V 16 Hat runs. The first time I got to the last boss over 2 and half weeks ago, I was told I have to go watch the video real quick so I would know how to beat the last boss. We wiped 3 times for me to learn it after watching the quick pts video. Ive never had a problem with it since............
Games to easy.
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You're that dude that spams chains in PvP aren't youMrBeatDown wrote: »
who are you?MrBeatDown wrote: »I heard it doesn't work anymore
V 16 Tank LFG V WGT Last Boss Hat Farm EP
Not looking for the pug first boss farm group.
Traps exploit got stealth nerfed HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
TS Required. Only looking for pro DPS! I will require you to link gear before I run with you.
Whisper @MrBeatDown for Pro Tank (with bow) runs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Im the number 1 Pro Tank on NA EP
Who are you? Some mad pug runner because he cant speed farm bosses?
No, that's me.
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He's the guy that just holds block while I puncturing sweep him into execute range.
You're that dude that spams chains in PvP aren't youMrBeatDown wrote: »
who are you?MrBeatDown wrote: »I heard it doesn't work anymore
V 16 Tank LFG V WGT Last Boss Hat Farm EP
Not looking for the pug first boss farm group.
Traps exploit got stealth nerfed HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
TS Required. Only looking for pro DPS! I will require you to link gear before I run with you.
Whisper @MrBeatDown for Pro Tank (with bow) runs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Im the number 1 Pro Tank on NA EP
Who are you? Some mad pug runner because he cant speed farm bosses?Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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✭✭✭MrBeatDown wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »
I was under the impression that you were using the exploit.
No, I am the tank when I run the dungeon. Don't need the exploit to beat this easy run. It takes players that understand the mechanics are properly geared to handle this simple dungeon. It also requires experience doing It on normal mode if you don't know how to do it. I wont lie, I have never even attempted to run this dungeon on normal. I only do V 16 Hat runs. The first time I got to the last boss over 2 and half weeks ago, I was told I have to go watch the video real quick so I would know how to beat the last boss. We wiped 3 times for me to learn it after watching the quick pts video. Ive never had a problem with it since............
Games to easy.
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✭✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »
You're that dude that spams chains in PvP aren't youMrBeatDown wrote: »
who are you?MrBeatDown wrote: »I heard it doesn't work anymore
V 16 Tank LFG V WGT Last Boss Hat Farm EP
Not looking for the pug first boss farm group.
Traps exploit got stealth nerfed HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
TS Required. Only looking for pro DPS! I will require you to link gear before I run with you.
Whisper @MrBeatDown for Pro Tank (with bow) runs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
Im the number 1 Pro Tank on NA EP
Who are you? Some mad pug runner because he cant speed farm bosses?
No, that's me.
I'm FAMOUS!!!!
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✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....NA PC | AD
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Stop trying to justify your reasoning to exploit, there is no reason why you should.DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....
And this is the type of community we have now people openly admit how they exploit and nothing happens to them. Banning players for exploits would be nice if ZOS took that direction
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✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....
Wrong. You could totally use this ability normally without proccing the exploit. I used it all day in trials and dungeons without having the exploit proc. You had to out range the trap before it was triggered by the mob, and had to remain out of range. The way the trap operated was it would trigger based on two things; a mob had to step over it for it to do damage, and your character had to be in range to receive the minor force buff. By moving at least 20ms away from the trap, it was unable to read that your character had the minor force buff, and would infinitely proc until you came back into range for it to read that you had it. So people would literally place traps away from enemies, and then run in a corner and then have someone place the enemy on the trap. Since they were out of range, the trap would continuously rearm and damage the target, desperately trying to read minor force on the trap's caster.
Now minor force has been removed from trap in the hotfix, so it no longer has to meet those checks, and operates how it was supposed to. So no, just using the ability was NOT enough to trigger the exploit. Sick of people trying to justify cheating. You (not referring specifically to you, just general) cheated, maybe once by some odd chance you had placed a trap and then found out it kept triggering, but even after that you went ahead and kept doing it.Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!
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Hiero_Glyph✭✭✭✭✭It would be nice if Zo$ would punish those people who abused this exploit...
I'm all for punishing people that willing abuse the system by cheating or exploiting but in this case the blame is soundly upon ZOS not the players that (ab)used the skill. What I mean by this is that Trap Beast was reported as being bugged during the PTS (over a month ago) and ZOS ignored that feedback. Furthermore the skill itself was just broken and required no effort by the player to exploit or glitch. All of the grief by Trap Beast was caused by bad code, not by players making the skill somehow do something that it was not supposed to do. It would be akin to punishing players for using nirnhoned armor back in 1.6.
Personally I abhore cheaters and think they should be insta-banned but in this case ZOS is to blame, not the players using the skill. Still, it would be nice to see ZOS take a stand against cheaters, this is just not one of those cases.
EDIT: To be clear the players abusing this skill are still immoral, they are just not exploiting anything against the TOS.Edited by Hiero_Glyph on September 29, 2015 5:12AM1 -
dlepi24✭✭✭✭It would be nice if Zo$ would punish those people who abused this exploit...
So, punish somebody who used a skill and realized it annihilated zergs (and only zergs) and continued to use it? It's not that players fault he used a skill in the game. If the skill is broken, it's up to ZOS to fix it. Not the player. Do you really expect 100% of ESO's player base to browse the forums and check to see what skills are/aren't broken? No, they would expect if it's in the game it's what the developer was intending. Even if somebody knew it was an exploit, it should still be a top priority of the dev's to fix it. Don't get mad that your zerg died to a few people. That's what happens when you group up and lose all sense of stealth/tactics just because you have more people than them. Better make sure you're one of the 12 people who get a hit on him so you can collect your 3 stones a piece.
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Stop trying to justify your reasoning to exploit, there is no reason why you should.DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....
And this is the type of community we have now people openly admit how they exploit and nothing happens to them. Banning players for exploits would be nice if ZOS took that direction
Well said. It's a shame to see the amount of people using it and then trying to justify it because of drop rates or w/e the new reason is today.Edited by Takllin on September 29, 2015 2:15PMJadokis - AD Redguard DK v16 AR 18
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omfgitsbatman✭✭✭✭MrBeatDown wrote: »
who are you?MrBeatDown wrote: »I heard it doesn't work anymore
V 16 Tank LFG V WGT Last Boss Hat Farm EP
Not looking for the pug first boss farm group.
Traps exploit got stealth nerfed HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
TS Required. Only looking for pro DPS! I will require you to link gear before I run with you.
Whisper @MrBeatDown for Pro Tank (with bow) runs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Im the number 1 Pro Tank on NA EP
Who are you? Some mad pug runner because he cant speed farm bosses?
I've run with many of the best tanks NA EP... They include players such as Zomnomnombie, Paulsimonps, Walexx, Stalwart Grey, Templarridden, Amneziac, Lord Thornos... These are the main tanks for L2P, FiF, SiR, MoS, and a few more... Those are most of the top PVE guilds EP side NA... Who are you? Which guild do you tank for?
I ask mainly so I can avoid any runs with said guild, as I am sure 5 minutes on teamspeak with the #1 pro tank NA EP would make my ears bleed and bring about thoughts of harming kittens.Edited by omfgitsbatman on September 29, 2015 2:41PMHe's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.
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Stop trying to justify your reasoning to exploit, there is no reason why you should.DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....
And this is the type of community we have now people openly admit how they exploit and nothing happens to them. Banning players for exploits would be nice if ZOS took that direction
Nifty in general i agree with u just thing is that ZOS is not making it clean and simple. They are not plugging holes nor they make clear statements about unintended spell effects for ages and simply as time goes by that x becomes style/standard. If u have 90% of your competitors using it - would u ?
Question is why ZOS takes ages to declare x thing is exploit and finally fix it in next couple of days.
ZOS is not following gaming standards and that is major thing.
If u want i can remind u of number of bugs which stayed in game for long time and most of players were using it. Like camo hunter ..... .
I hope u dont expect us to analyse spell effects through addons which are not official resource and often making decision if ZOS made mistake with tooltip (that happen a lot of times as well) or with actually damage produced with that x spell.
Here i dont see reason why we should have moral dilemmas .
ZOS need to do 2 things :
1) We need on official forums thread started by ZOS with list of unintended spell effects, which are exploits by ZOS definition and explicit punishment for using that spell. ( just listing will stop 80% of abuses ). Whatever is not listed is approved ....
2) They should fix bugs in timely manner .
thats all .Edited by tino.antoninieb17_ESO on September 29, 2015 3:08PM0 -
asneakybanana✭✭✭✭✭Gilliamtherogue wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....
Wrong. You could totally use this ability normally without proccing the exploit. I used it all day in trials and dungeons without having the exploit proc. You had to out range the trap before it was triggered by the mob, and had to remain out of range. The way the trap operated was it would trigger based on two things; a mob had to step over it for it to do damage, and your character had to be in range to receive the minor force buff. By moving at least 20ms away from the trap, it was unable to read that your character had the minor force buff, and would infinitely proc until you came back into range for it to read that you had it. So people would literally place traps away from enemies, and then run in a corner and then have someone place the enemy on the trap. Since they were out of range, the trap would continuously rearm and damage the target, desperately trying to read minor force on the trap's caster.
Now minor force has been removed from trap in the hotfix, so it no longer has to meet those checks, and operates how it was supposed to. So no, just using the ability was NOT enough to trigger the exploit. Sick of people trying to justify cheating. You (not referring specifically to you, just general) cheated, maybe once by some odd chance you had placed a trap and then found out it kept triggering, but even after that you went ahead and kept doing it.
You don't know how bad I wanted to do traps in dsa to troll you guys. But better judgement decided otherwise lol. Pretty annoyed they nerfed the trap though as the crit buff was a pretty nice dps boost. And now, we'll, guess it's time for clench.Asneakybanana AD DK Former emperor of Chrysamere and Chillrend. World first hardmode Hel'ra and Quake con winner (Alliance rank 25)Sweat Squad
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✭asneakybanana wrote: »Gilliamtherogue wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Players like you are what's wrong with this community. Absolutely no shame in admitting that you exploit, and no shame in ruining the game for other people just because you're "having fun" exploiting.
Lol 90% of the time I would agree with this, exploiting is not cool, but ZOS has take 100% of the blame for this one and not the people that have been using it, its not like you had to do something special, or spam something, or hide something on a temporary bar etc, etc for it to go crazy - you just had to use it....
Wrong. You could totally use this ability normally without proccing the exploit. I used it all day in trials and dungeons without having the exploit proc. You had to out range the trap before it was triggered by the mob, and had to remain out of range. The way the trap operated was it would trigger based on two things; a mob had to step over it for it to do damage, and your character had to be in range to receive the minor force buff. By moving at least 20ms away from the trap, it was unable to read that your character had the minor force buff, and would infinitely proc until you came back into range for it to read that you had it. So people would literally place traps away from enemies, and then run in a corner and then have someone place the enemy on the trap. Since they were out of range, the trap would continuously rearm and damage the target, desperately trying to read minor force on the trap's caster.
Now minor force has been removed from trap in the hotfix, so it no longer has to meet those checks, and operates how it was supposed to. So no, just using the ability was NOT enough to trigger the exploit. Sick of people trying to justify cheating. You (not referring specifically to you, just general) cheated, maybe once by some odd chance you had placed a trap and then found out it kept triggering, but even after that you went ahead and kept doing it.
You don't know how bad I wanted to do traps in dsa to troll you guys. But better judgement decided otherwise lol. Pretty annoyed they nerfed the trap though as the crit buff was a pretty nice dps boost. And now, we'll, guess it's time for clench.
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amneziac✭✭Why does the #1 tank have to pug for groups on forums? Its just a travesty I tell you.MrBeatDown wrote: »
who are you?MrBeatDown wrote: »I heard it doesn't work anymore
V 16 Tank LFG V WGT Last Boss Hat Farm EP
Not looking for the pug first boss farm group.
Traps exploit got stealth nerfed HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
TS Required. Only looking for pro DPS! I will require you to link gear before I run with you.
Whisper @MrBeatDown for Pro Tank (with bow) runs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Im the number 1 Pro Tank on NA EP
Who are you? Some mad pug runner because he cant speed farm bosses?
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