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    @JD2013 thanks for the lore link I'm reading up on allot I didn't know.
    There's a lot of awesome Elder Scrolls lore. For some of us the lore and setting are the main reason we play...
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    Besides, the Rift is in the game, so if they wanted to show him they would have done so already.

    Check you map; the Throat of the World is in the boundaries of Whiterun, it's just Ivarstead that's in the Rift. So they COULD do a cameo of Paarthurnax in the future, though personally I'm not going to be holding my su'um.

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    Ghrimn wrote: »
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    Besides, the Rift is in the game, so if they wanted to show him they would have done so already.

    Check you map; the Throat of the World is in the boundaries of Whiterun, it's just Ivarstead that's in the Rift. So they COULD do a cameo of Paarthurnax in the future, though personally I'm not going to be holding my su'um.
    True, it is possible on that basis, but the path up the Throat of the World starts in the Rift, and that mountain is particularly difficult to scale from the other side... Not that they couldn't add Whiterun hold, and open up the path from the Rift if they wanted to. I highly doubt that they would, though. Paarthy (as he's known to his friends :p ) will almost certainly not make an appearance in ESO.
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  • JD2013
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    @JD2013 thanks for the lore link I'm reading up on allot I didn't know.

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    The only living Dragons that we know of are Dragonne Papre, who resides in the Battlespire (in the future) and Nafaalilargus, who featured in TES: Redguard on Stros M'Kai - around 282 years from now.

    Numinex, who's skull is present in Whiterun, might be alive. We don't know.

    Honestly, I don't think nor want them to add Dragons into ESO. We did all that in Skyrim. It's a new story here.
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    @JD2013 thanks for the lore link I'm reading up on allot I didn't know.
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    cacophony wrote: »
    The only living Dragons that we know of are Dragonne Papre, who resides in the Battlespire (in the future) and Nafaalilargus, who featured in TES: Redguard on Stros M'Kai - around 282 years from now.

    Numinex, who's skull is present in Whiterun, might be alive. We don't know.
    And Paarthurnax - I think you just accidentally left him off your list. It's pretty clear that there are at least a couple of other dragons alive in addition to the ones you mention, though, because we know that after the time of ESO Tiber Septim made a pact with a number of remaining dragons, but those dragons were then hunted and slain anyway (which kind of rules out the dragons you mentioned as the ones Tiber Septim made a pact with). They are already vanishingly rare by the time of ESO though.
    cacophony wrote: »
    Honestly, I don't think nor want them to add Dragons into ESO. We did all that in Skyrim. It's a new story here.
    Agreed. I wouldn't be opposed to adding one dragon as a boss in a group dungeon or trial, but anything beyond that would be silly from a lore perspective, and even that would be pushing it a little. Let's keep the dragons as the special thing about Skyrim.
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    Besides, the Rift is in the game, so if they wanted to show him they would have done so already.

    Check you map; the Throat of the World is in the boundaries of Whiterun, it's just Ivarstead that's in the Rift. So they COULD do a cameo of Paarthurnax in the future, though personally I'm not going to be holding my su'um.
    True, it is possible on that basis, but the path up the Throat of the World starts in the Rift, and that mountain is particularly difficult to scale from the other side... Not that they couldn't add Whiterun hold, and open up the path from the Rift if they wanted to. I highly doubt that they would, though. Paarthy (as he's known to his friends :p ) will almost certainly not make an appearance in ESO.
    The path is already in the game, walled off with a barricade. I know they could still open it, but I really think it's unlikely.

    I doubt Numinex is alive. He was captured centuries before, he probably didn't last so long. But there are three names mentioned in the Atlas of Dragons: Mirmulnir (unknown if he was revived or just in hiding before Alduin's return), Ahbiilok (lairing in Morrowind), and the third one who may or may not be Tiber Septim's red dragon.
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    @cacophony
    There are plenty more Living Dragons besides Dragonne Papre and Nahfahlaar:
    • Skakmat - Resided in High Rock ( Wrothgarian Mountains) during the 3rd Era. Under Nulfaga's Protection;
    • Paarthurnax - Known to lair on the Throat of the World. Under the protection of the Greybeards;
    • Mirmulnir - Last sighted in the Reach in 2E 212;
    • Ahbiilok - He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind;
    • Vulthuryol - Hiding in Blackreach;
    • Kruziikrel, Krosulhah, Relonikiv & Sahrotaar - Inside Apocrypha, Hermaeus Mora's Plane of Oblivion. Under Miirak's "Protection";
    • Voslaarum & Naaslaarum (Probably) - Hiding in The Forgotten Vale;
    • Durnehviir - Undead Dragon imprisoned in The Soul Cairn. Not sure if he counts.
    These are the ones we know, there probably were more who survived, since Tiber Septim made a pact with a few Dragons. Numinex was driven mad by many years of loneliness and captivity which eventually caused his death, I doubt he survived in those conditions for ±3082 years.

    Edited by Ghrimn on September 28, 2015 9:39PM
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    It would be cool to see what the new threat would be after molga bolg

    Mephala. Calling it now.

    Nope, it'll be Molag Bal's Simulcrum's Doppleganger this time...
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    So what do yall the k will be the next threat since it's online and the game will continue even after the this threat is terminated which can't wait to kill Manimarco

    I would personally like to see them give the option to end the war one day and turn Cyrodiil into a PvE zone and make an entirely new PvP zone, Black Marsh maybe.

    Or maybe even a really big expansion with dual new PvP zones (one on each continent), maybe something like Tamriel vs Akavir or Atmora maybe. Those could bring new races and lands only spoke of in other games.

    With something like that, folks would definitely have to deal with a ton more of us Elder Scrolls folks :)
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    It would be cool to see what the new threat would be after molga bolg

    Mephala. Calling it now.

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    JD2013 wrote: »
    It would be cool to see what the new threat would be after molga bolg
    Mephala. Calling it now.
    I think Mephala is more likely going to be tied into the Dark Brotherhood storyline.
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    It would be cool to see what the new threat would be after molga bolg
    Mephala. Calling it now.
    I think Mephala is more likely going to be tied into the Dark Brotherhood storyline.

    That is also possible, given their rivalry with the Morag Tong.

    Are we even sure there *will* be another main bad guy after Molag Bal? It seems to me that ZoS are just going to do DLC as opposed to an expansion, and it also seems like none of the DLC's will tie into one another.
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Enodoc wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    It would be cool to see what the new threat would be after molga bolg
    Mephala. Calling it now.
    I think Mephala is more likely going to be tied into the Dark Brotherhood storyline.

    That is also possible, given their rivalry with the Morag Tong.

    Are we even sure there *will* be another main bad guy after Molag Bal? It seems to me that ZoS are just going to do DLC as opposed to an expansion, and it also seems like none of the DLC's will tie into one another.
    I think it really depends on how they do the DLC. They always said that they wouldn't do big expansions like other MMOs, but that doesn't mean that there won't be a "story extension DLC". For example, I would consider Dragonborn a "story extension DLC" to Skyrim (where Dawnguard is not), and if it was from this decade I would say Tribunal was a Morrowind "story extension DLC" (where Bloodmoon is not). Meridia alluded to the fact that other powers had become interested in you following the Planemeld, so I would hope that may go somewhere.
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    Saw a guy get killed by the siege merchant. Please do not introduce dragons to fight until my faction has learnt how to deal with basic NPCs
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Enodoc wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    It would be cool to see what the new threat would be after molga bolg
    Mephala. Calling it now.
    I think Mephala is more likely going to be tied into the Dark Brotherhood storyline.

    That is also possible, given their rivalry with the Morag Tong.

    Are we even sure there *will* be another main bad guy after Molag Bal? It seems to me that ZoS are just going to do DLC as opposed to an expansion, and it also seems like none of the DLC's will tie into one another.
    I think it really depends on how they do the DLC. They always said that they wouldn't do big expansions like other MMOs, but that doesn't mean that there won't be a "story extension DLC". For example, I would consider Dragonborn a "story extension DLC" to Skyrim (where Dawnguard is not), and if it was from this decade I would say Tribunal was a Morrowind "story extension DLC" (where Bloodmoon is not). Meridia alluded to the fact that other powers had become interested in you following the Planemeld, so I would hope that may go somewhere.

    See, that's my hope too. They teased that other Daedric Princes have noticed you as you said, and they did say on an ESO live that we would be facing other Daedric Princes. So, my fingers are crossed.
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