DK two handed build, help?

Acsvf

I'm a bit new to this game, so I don't really know much about the game in general. But at the moment, I'm interested in making a dragonknight using two handed that does decent dps, but also has some degree of survivability, that's also made for solo play. I'm also shying away from a lot of builds because I'm not interested in switching weapons, at least not at the moment.
Could anybody give suggestions as to skills, or link me to a guide that fits the above? Thanks!

Bloodgharm

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

hardcore_gmr

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

I like it

Bloodgharm

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

I like it

You should like it...

It's based on the build you suggested for me. Lol

The only difference is OP can put all their offensive skills on one bar and keep rally on the buff bar. Plus they'll have hardened armor for the buff and an extra damage shield.

mr_wazzabi

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

No brawler or unstable flame?

mr_wazzabi

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

No brawler or unstable flame?

Oops you have unstable flame...

FeaR Turbo

I was messing around in PTS 1.6. At the time I didn't have a DK, was testing around with one and a couple of friends to see if i wanted to make one. Obv things can change around since you want to main 2h weapon.
Anyway i'm not saying its the best but Something to look at (:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBwEoj14_68


Have a good day!

- FeaR Turbo

Acsvf

Bloodgharm wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

I like it

You should like it...

It's based on the build you suggested for me. Lol

Now that's pretty hilarious.

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

Hm... I think I'll use that, thanks! One question though, how would I place my attribute points?

Bloodgharm

Tbh

Acsvf wrote: »

Bloodgharm wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

I like it

You should like it...

It's based on the build you suggested for me. Lol

Now that's pretty hilarious.

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

Hm... I think I'll use that, thanks! One question though, how would I place my attribute points?

Put everything you can into stamina. If you feel you are squishy then throw a few into health. I would also suggest 2 pieces of heavy armor and 5 medium. The medium will reduce your cost of stamina skills and also provide you with more damage.

Bloodgharm

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

No brawler or unstable flame?

I didn't put brawler on here because I already added 2 damage shield skills plus the aoe damage on brawler is terribad. You'd be better off just spamming burning breath.

Acsvf

Bloodgharm wrote: »

Tbh

Acsvf wrote: »

Bloodgharm wrote: »

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

I like it

You should like it...

It's based on the build you suggested for me. Lol

Now that's pretty hilarious.

Bloodgharm wrote: »

For a double 2h build I would suggest...

DPS bar:
Crit Rush
Executioner
Wrecking Blow
Unstable Flame
Burning Breath
U: Ferocious leap

Buff/defense bar:
Rally
Igneous shield
Hardened armor
Cinder storm
Dragon fire scales
U: Corrosive armor

Hm... I think I'll use that, thanks! One question though, how would I place my attribute points?

Put everything you can into stamina. If you feel you are squishy then throw a few into health. I would also suggest 2 pieces of heavy armor and 5 medium. The medium will reduce your cost of stamina skills and also provide you with more damage.

Hm... that makes sense. Personally I wouldn't split my armor types though, would 7 medium work?
Also, what are good choices for race?

Vangy

If u intend on levelling the undaunted skill line u can get 6% bonus to hp/stam/ magicka for wearing 5m/1h/1l. I use chest heavy and belt light + 5 medium. Also for a soloing hard content Id suggest a SnB maybe when ur more comfortable with weapon swaps. For races, I like nord and imperial for dks.

Acsvf

Made this in the skill calculator.
http://esohead.com/calculator/skills#1.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

Currently, I'm currently thinking of possibly switching all my medium armor to heavy so that I can take the points out of clothier to put into enchanting or provisioning instead, but I'm not too sure.
I'm also considering replacing dragon fire scale with green dragon blood.

Any suggestions?

Bloodgharm

Acsvf wrote: »

Made this in the skill calculator.
http://esohead.com/calculator/skills#1.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

Currently, I'm currently thinking of possibly switching all my medium armor to heavy so that I can take the points out of clothier to put into enchanting or provisioning instead, but I'm not too sure.
I'm also considering replacing dragon fire scale with green dragon blood.

Any suggestions?

Honestly, you're going to eventually have more skill points than you'd know what to do with. Sure, you'll struggle in the beginning to grab everything you want right off the bat. If this is your first character, I'd suggest putting points into the 3 main crafts (smithing, clothing, workworking). That's what I did. I'm starting a new toon for my dk and will be doing provisioning. Like I mentioned before, you're going to want mostly medium armor for staming regen and increased damage. If you go all heavy you'll run out of resources pdq.

hardcore_gmr

Acsvf wrote: »

Made this in the skill calculator.
http://esohead.com/calculator/skills#1.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

Currently, I'm currently thinking of possibly switching all my medium armor to heavy so that I can take the points out of clothier to put into enchanting or provisioning instead, but I'm not too sure.
I'm also considering replacing dragon fire scale with green dragon blood.

Any suggestions?

Tri-pots (three stat potions) have the same effect as Green dragon blood and the two do not stack. I prefer the pots because it frees up the spot. also 7 medium is great for creating a susper sustained build. You really want medium armor because you are giving up way to many DPS passives just to save a few skill points. BTW...if you need AoE (its the only type of skill you do not have in the builds listed) you could run DW on the second bar to spam Steel Tornado, but my preference is Bow, I'm liking Bombard for AoE.

Bloodgharm

@hardcore_gmr You seem to know your way around crafting and builds. I think I read something about this change with provisioning, but I'm not sure. You can stack food and drink buffs now right?

Acsvf

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Tri-pots (three stat potions) have the same effect as Green dragon blood and the two do not stack. I prefer the pots because it frees up the spot. also 7 medium is great for creating a susper sustained build. You really want medium armor because you are giving up way to many DPS passives just to save a few skill points. BTW...if you need AoE (its the only type of skill you do not have in the builds listed) you could run DW on the second bar to spam Steel Tornado, but my preference is Bow, I'm liking Bombard for AoE.

Hm... makes sense. I guess I'll stick with medium then.
Question though, are those potions obtainable through something other than alchemy? Because that's one thing I really don't like.

Bloodgharm wrote: »

Honestly, you're going to eventually have more skill points than you'd know what to do with. Sure, you'll struggle in the beginning to grab everything you want right off the bat. If this is your first character, I'd suggest putting points into the 3 main crafts (smithing, clothing, workworking). That's what I did. I'm starting a new toon for my dk and will be doing provisioning. Like I mentioned before, you're going to want mostly medium armor for staming regen and increased damage. If you go all heavy you'll run out of resources pdq.

When I first started, I looked at this obtainable skill point thing and decided that I'd eventually have about 150 skill points and built around that. Looking back at it though, it seems that 220 seems more likely.
I guess it wouldn't hurt to add more crafting to the character.

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Sort of revised my skill points, mainly to add a lot more crafting into since I'm turning it into a craft character for my other characters eventually. I'm planning on not putting points into woodworking and enchanting till later on into the game.
http://esohead.com/calculator/skills#1.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

hardcore_gmr

Bloodgharm wrote: »

@hardcore_gmr You seem to know your way around crafting and builds. I think I read something about this change with provisioning, but I'm not sure. You can stack food and drink buffs now right?

No, food and drinks are dependent buffs...activating one, cancels the other

Vangy

WAIT WAIT. Since when can we stack food and drink buffs????? If this is true I need to know nao. @hardcore_gmr to the rescue pls. I'm not at my pc now so I can't test this pls help.

Vangy

Omg I found the answer. It DOES. Omg omg im gona have soooo much fun with this. Can't blive I missed this tasty tidbit of information.

Bloodgharm

hardcore_gmr wrote: »

Bloodgharm wrote: »

@hardcore_gmr You seem to know your way around crafting and builds. I think I read something about this change with provisioning, but I'm not sure. You can stack food and drink buffs now right?

No, food and drinks are dependent buffs...activating one, cancels the other

Darn. I could've swore that I read they were changing that. I went with redguard for my stamina dk. What do you think would be best? Food or drink? I'll probably be seriously lacking in stam regen, but I also want to beef up my magicka pool so I can cast more of my class skills. I'm starting this craft from scratch so I won't have access to many of the great recipes off the bat.

Acsvf

Vangy wrote: »

Omg I found the answer. It DOES. Omg omg im gona have soooo much fun with this. Can't blive I missed this tasty tidbit of information.

Wait, what? More information please, I want to know :O :O :O

Vangy

I found a post under developer discussion titled provisioning revamp and it lists that drink regeneration will now stack with food buffs. Is this mistaken??

Vangy

Ah nvm I missed an important key word in my enthusiasm. We are "considering".. Hasn't been implemented lol. False alarm haha

Vangy

@Bloodgharm : I'm sitting at 26k stam unbuffed so I went with drinks to hit 2k+ stam regen. I'm an imperial tho. I'd say try it out and see which suits u better.

Acsvf

Vangy wrote: »

Ah nvm I missed an important key word in my enthusiasm. We are "considering".. Hasn't been implemented lol. False alarm haha

Dang, that sucks.
But anyways, could anybody have a look at the revised skill build?

Vangy

You seem to have way too much magicka focused skills for a stamina build. To put things into perspective at v16 most likely a standard stamina build has ard 10k magicka. Obsidian shield costs 3k+ and cinder storm costs 3k+. You won't be able to effectively use scales, hardened armor, cinderstorm and obsidian shield. I'd lose the hardened armor and cinderstorm. Obsidian shield and scales u can keep. Also u seem to lack Aoe. Put rally on ur first bar and change ur 2nd bar to bow or DW. You can shift burning breath to ur 2nd bar and use it as a Aoe bar.

Acsvf

Vangy wrote: »

Obsidian shield costs 3k+ and cinder storm costs 3k+. You won't be able to effectively use scales, hardened armor, cinderstorm and obsidian shield. I'd lose the hardened armor and cinderstorm. Obsidian shield and scales u can keep. Also u seem to lack Aoe.

Hm... that makes sense. What would be a good idea to replace it?

Vangy wrote: »

Put rally on ur first bar and change ur 2nd bar to bow or DW. You can shift burning breath to ur 2nd bar and use it as a Aoe bar.

Hm... that makes sense, although would I have to switch weapons? Because I really don't want to do that. Is there an alternative?

Vangy

What the 2h offers in term of unstoppable single target dps it severely lacks in Aoe. To be effective in end game content ur going to have to weapon swap. Either bow or DW.

My 2h single target bar:
Unstable flame
Wb
Executioner
Rally
Evil hunter/obsidian shield/flames of oblivion

Aoe DW
Caltrops/eruption
Fiery breath
Steel tornado
Gdb/coagulating blood/blade Cloak
Evil hunter/flames of oblivion/obsidian shield

Bow Aoe
Caltrops
Snipe
Bombard
Gdb/coagulating blood/eruption/obsidian shield
Evil hunter/flames of oblivion/fiery breath

I leave snipe in the bow bar for fights that require ranged dps.

Vangy

For ultimates I use a combination of meteor for Aoe and dragon leap/corrosive armor/flawless dawnbreaker for single target/sustain

Vangy

@Acsvf
Also I understand weapon swapping can be daunting initially. Heck it took me 3 months to learn to weapon swap effectively. But the earlier u learn the faster u will get the hang of it. For pvp SnB is so popular and effective for a dk so my advice is learn it early and learn it well. It is an amazing tool and when used properly it opens up so much in terms of utility and play style.

There is no one size fits all for builds. For example if I know a dungeon is going to be full of daedra/undead I slot evil hunter, if a fight is going to have lots of mobs spawning and damage is going to be incoming I favor obsidian and more Aoe, if it's a single target ranged fight like engin guardian I bring bow, if I'm soloing hard content or ic I use SnB. All this is based on weapon swapping and keeping your skill lines diverse to an extent.

In addition one also has to consider personal play style. Some people run more defnsive skills like dragon scales because they prefer it whereas I'm more of a dps centric player. So best way for u to find out what works is try things out and make ur own build. It is eso after all