Just got werewolf again -.- lost 14 skillpoints and an hour gameplay

OrphanHelgen

Early in the morning, forgot to do fully respec before I removed vamp.
Got bit, and realised after shotting last coffee what I had done, (Im now currently missing 14 skillpoints).
The solution here now is to pay 600 gold to remove WW, get another one to bite me as vamp, do the quest, get the skill line and then a fully respec, and then become a WW again.

Pls make one of your programmers to work overtime or something today and hotfix this.

Edit:

What I did:
I got rid of Werewolf.
I did a fully respec and got back 283 skillpoints (have 297 earned)
Then I got bit from vamp and had to do quest. When I finished quest and the vamp skill line, I got back the skillpoints from that skill line I had previous used, and now have 297 again. Then I had to pay 600 gold (again) to get rid of vamp, and then get a werewolf bite from another player (since there is a cooldown of 7 days of biting).

This is 100% true and I tested it today.. Got bit 3 times in one hour, lol.

ItsMeToo

Where's my LOL button?

dlepi24

ItsMeToo wrote: »

Where's my LOL button?

right?

Qyrk

Huh? You can go to a skill reset shrine without curing WW and the points from vamp will 've returned to you, isn't that how it works? I'm so confused what you're trying to do (or making it harder for yourself).

qpviper1qp

I'm confused since i have never cured myself of either one. If you don't respec prior to the cure you lose those skill points??? Are they still in your vampire skill line but of course not usable since you cured yourself? Is that is the case, that sucks! Good to know and thanks for the entertainment at your expense. Sorry it happened but kinda funny if you can look at it from an outside perspective. Lol. Stay thirsty my friends.

Itoq

That is not how it works Q.

In able for OrphanHelgen to get his skills points back and also get back to WW he will need to cure WW, obtain vamp, reset skill points, cure vamp and then obtain WW and re-allocate his skill points.

In other words you cannot get back points in WW unless you are currently a WW and you cannot get back points put into vamp unless you are currently a vamp.

This is one of those things that became a feature since it was not properly thought out when the original coding was put together and nobody at ZOS has wanted to fix it.

UltimaJoe777

Itoq wrote: »

That is not how it works Q.

In able for OrphanHelgen to get his skills points back and also get back to WW he will need to cure WW, obtain vamp, reset skill points, cure vamp and then obtain WW and re-allocate his skill points.

In other words you cannot get back points in WW unless you are currently a WW and you cannot get back points put into vamp unless you are currently a vamp.

This is one of those things that became a feature since it was not properly thought out when the original coding was put together and nobody at ZOS has wanted to fix it.

Is there any solid proof that it is currently like this? If there is or if there is someone that has actually tried to reskill while not having said skill line available and not gotten all their points back then it can be reported to Zenimax for an eventual fix.

Qyrk

Itoq wrote: »

That is not how it works Q.

In able for OrphanHelgen to get his skills points back and also get back to WW he will need to cure WW, obtain vamp, reset skill points, cure vamp and then obtain WW and re-allocate his skill points.

In other words you cannot get back points in WW unless you are currently a WW and you cannot get back points put into vamp unless you are currently a vamp.

This is one of those things that became a feature since it was not properly thought out when the original coding was put together and nobody at ZOS has wanted to fix it.

I'm max in both skill lines, and currently just playing normal (not WW or vamp). Once I cure myself of say vamp, I still have skill points locked into it. As a 'normal' being, if I need to get those skill points back (from vamp), I don't need to be a vamp again, reskill, then cure again; I can just respec. Is this not any different, I'm actually curious? Thanks

lathbury

to get the skill points back you have to be a vamp/ww when you respec ZOS has acknowleged this is the case but not if they intend to do anything about it.

AudioVortex

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Itoq wrote: »

That is not how it works Q.

In able for OrphanHelgen to get his skills points back and also get back to WW he will need to cure WW, obtain vamp, reset skill points, cure vamp and then obtain WW and re-allocate his skill points.

In other words you cannot get back points in WW unless you are currently a WW and you cannot get back points put into vamp unless you are currently a vamp.

This is one of those things that became a feature since it was not properly thought out when the original coding was put together and nobody at ZOS has wanted to fix it.

Is there any solid proof that it is currently like this? If there is or if there is someone that has actually tried to reskill while not having said skill line available and not gotten all their points back then it can be reported to Zenimax for an eventual fix.

Not so much solid written proof that I can find, but speaking from experience, this is how it currently works.

OrphanHelgen

What I did:
I got rid of Werewolf.
I did a fully respec and got back 283 skillpoints (have 297 earned)
Then I got bit from vamp and had to do quest. When I finished quest and the vamp skill line, I got back the skillpoints from that skill line I had previous used, and now have 297 again. Then I had to pay 600 gold (again) to get rid of vamp, and then get a werewolf bite from another player (since there is a cooldown of 7 days of biting).

This is 100% true and I tested it today.. Got bit 3 times in one hour, lol.

Pallmor

Sounds like the cure....is worse than the disease [drum roll]

Thank you folks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waiter.

grumlins

The total confirmed points anyone can have from what I've learned is 320 if I'm not mistaken so this isn't a programming problem if you get all of the points you can in the game which is totally possible.

I'm a registered carebear and a filthy casual and even I don't see a problem here.

OrphanHelgen

grumlins wrote: »

The total confirmed points anyone can have from what I've learned is 320 if I'm not mistaken so this isn't a programming problem if you get all of the points you can in the game which is totally possible.

I'm a registered carebear and a filthy casual and even I don't see a problem here.

Last skillpoints is from pvp and takes ages to get, I have 297 skillpoint, and as a stamina user and crafter, I need every single one. But what I dont need, is the skillpoints being placed in vampire skill when I dont even have access too it. Are you sure these 320 skillpoints of yours are included to cover both vampire and werewolf tree at the same time? Answer: no.

So again, hotfix this pls.

UltimaJoe777

Pallmor wrote: »

Sounds like the cure....is worse than the disease [drum roll]

Thank you folks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waiter.

Would've been better to do the whole put on your shades during the pause and then leave after finishing bit.

#HoratioCaineStyle

DaveMoeDee

I thought they had already fixed this. Lame.

Did they reintroduce an old bug at some point?

Lightninvash

ok is anyone else here utterly confused on what the heck he is talking about?

OrphanHelgen

Lightninvash wrote: »

ok is anyone else here utterly confused on what the heck he is talking about?

the guy that comment above you seems to agree

OrphanHelgen

Lightninvash wrote: »

ok is anyone else here utterly confused on what the heck he is talking about?

If you cure yourself from being a vampire or wererolf, you wont get back the skillpoints you spent, even when you do a skill respec. You have to hav the werewolf/vampire skill line active to get them back.

Divinius

The bug used to be: For either the Vamp or WW skill lines, if you put points into their skill lines, and then cured the condition (which removes access to the skill line), that you would NOT get back the spent skill points in that line when you did a respec. In essense, they were "locked" into the skill that you could no longer access, and even a respec couldn't pull them out.

The points would still be there if you unlock the skill line again, and if you did a respec while the skill line was still available (i.e. before you cured it), then you could get the points back without issue.

That said, I also thought they finally fixed this, and that you would get the "locked" points back upon a respec. But honestly, I haven't had the guts to confirm it, so I can't say for sure.

OrphanHelgen

Divinius wrote: »

The bug used to be: For either the Vamp or WW skill lines, if you put points into their skill lines, and then cured the condition (which removes access to the skill line), that you would NOT get back the spent skill points in that line when you did a respec. In essense, they were "locked" into the skill that you could no longer access, and even a respec couldn't pull them out.

The points would still be there if you unlock the skill line again, and if you did a respec while the skill line was still available (i.e. before you cured it), then you could get the points back without issue.

That said, I also thought they finally fixed this, and that you would get the "locked" points back upon a respec. But honestly, I haven't had the guts to confirm it, so I can't say for sure.

I can confirm that I did not recieve all my earned skillpoints after I cured myself, then respecced.
I did tho, get back my skillpoints again after finishing the vampire quest. (did not have to do another respec)

Divinius

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

What I did:
I got rid of Werewolf.
I did a fully respec and got back 283 skillpoints (have 297 earned)
Then I got bit from vamp and had to do quest. When I finished quest and the vamp skill line, I got back the skillpoints from that skill line I had previous used, and now have 297 again. Then I had to pay 600 gold (again) to get rid of vamp, and then get a werewolf bite from another player (since there is a cooldown of 7 days of biting).

This is 100% true and I tested it today.. Got bit 3 times in one hour, lol.

So wait...

You did the respec before you re-opened the Vamp skill line? And, while it did not give you back the points at the time of respec, it DID give them to you as soon as you re-opened the line? That's... odd, and not what I would expect, but OK! Neat.

OrphanHelgen

Divinius wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

What I did:
I got rid of Werewolf.
I did a fully respec and got back 283 skillpoints (have 297 earned)
Then I got bit from vamp and had to do quest. When I finished quest and the vamp skill line, I got back the skillpoints from that skill line I had previous used, and now have 297 again. Then I had to pay 600 gold (again) to get rid of vamp, and then get a werewolf bite from another player (since there is a cooldown of 7 days of biting).

This is 100% true and I tested it today.. Got bit 3 times in one hour, lol.

So wait...

You did the respec before you re-opened the Vamp skill line? And, while it did not give you back the points at the time of respec, it DID give them to you as soon as you re-opened the line? That's... odd, and not what I would expect, but OK! Neat.

What you just said, is correct. I did.

Divinius

Sounds to me like their "fix" didn't really fix it. You don't have to pay for a second re-spec, but you still have to get the skill line back. Weird.

Good to know though, so thanks!