Why Doesn't Glass Armor Look Like Glass?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

I was really looking forward to this new style but it is really ugly and looks nothing like glass. The more you improve it, the worse it looks. The only thing positive about it is the weapons. I'm so disappointed.

nine9six

You're not alone.

Sallington

I wouldn't even call the weapons a positive, since they look NOTHING like glass weapons.

Molag_Crow

I know, but they still look pretty.

UrQuan

When you say "it looks nothing like glass" do you mean "it looks nothing like real world glass" or do you mean "it looks nothing like the fantasy Tamrielic material made from a volcanic form of malachite which is referred to as glass, but which is not actual glass"?

Molag_Crow

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

UrQuan wrote: »

"it looks nothing like the fantasy Tamrielic material made from a volcanic form of malachite which is referred to as glass, but which is not actual glass"?

Yes, that, smarty pants...

Sallington

UrQuan wrote: »

When you say "it looks nothing like glass" do you mean "it looks nothing like real world glass" or do you mean "it looks nothing like the fantasy Tamrielic material made from a volcanic form of malachite which is referred to as glass, but which is not actual glass"?

It looks like iron with a little bit of moss on it. There's nothing about it that resembles the iconic look of glass armor and weapons.

UrQuan

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

"it looks nothing like the fantasy Tamrielic material made from a volcanic form of malachite which is referred to as glass, but which is not actual glass"?

Yes, that, smarty pants...

I was only asking because I've seen people on the forums complain that it doesn't look like the traditional TES glass armour, and I've seen people on the forums complain that it doesn't look like real world glass... Just curious which of the 2 camps you were in (and ready to correct educate you if you turned out to be in the "it doesn't look like real world glass" camp lol).

RizaHawkeye

BlackEar

I want what was promised!

NateAssassin

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

Zeni promised skimpy glass armor?

JD2013

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

I don't think that's what was promised.

Or that anything was promised.

Prof_Bawbag

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

RizaHawkeye

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

I so completely agree with this.

One thing I really like about ESO is the female animations. They look so much better than any previous TES title. When my character walks, it looks like she's walking with purpose. I like that.

Armor should be armor. I would prefer even more realistic armors. Less plates (which would actually weigh a ton) and more mail, or reinforced leathers.

And back on topic, glass armor should not look like "glass" as we know it because it's NOT glass. It's malachite, which looks like this:



Which begs the question: How DO you make armor out of soft stone? Maybe something like this (real life stone armor):

Tankqull

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

if its light armor that is skinny i have no problem with it, medium or heavy armor though is ment to be protective and not some kind of linen...

UrQuan

Tankqull wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

if its light armor that is skinny i have no problem with it, medium or heavy armor though is ment to be protective and not some kind of linen...

Don't discount linen as armour. The Greeks used a linen armour known as linthorax which was very effective. The exact method of making it isn't known, but the most common theory is that it was made from about 15-20 sheets of linen glued together. Modern attempts to recreate it using materials that would have been available in ancient times have shown that it would have been quite capable of stopping arrows or slashes from swords.

firstdecan

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

You're talking about immersion in a high fantasy environment where people can teleport, become invisible, and shoot fire \ lightning \ ice out of various orifices. The immersion people are looking for is immersion in an idealized fantasy setting, not realism. Some people simply let their idealism gravitate towards a visual aesthetic rather than functional realism.

Personally, I prefer the more attractive characters, female and male. I'll get to play a character bundled in 10 layers of protection this winter, my entertainment should be an escape from that situation.

nimander99

I'm disappointed it doesn't look like traditional Elder Scrolls glass. That said, I do think it looks cool... just not as glass.

Makkir

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

Pretty sure that used to be a man

Prof_Bawbag

firstdecan wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

You're talking about immersion in a high fantasy environment where people can teleport, become invisible, and shoot fire \ lightning \ ice out of various orifices. The immersion people are looking for is immersion in an idealized fantasy setting, not realism. Some people simply let their idealism gravitate towards a visual aesthetic rather than functional realism.

Personally, I prefer the more attractive characters, female and male. I'll get to play a character bundled in 10 layers of protection this winter, my entertainment should be an escape from that situation.

Being able to shoot fire from your finger tips etc isn't the context in which I was putting my point across. However, if you're gonna go onto a forum and start complaining about immersion breaking things such as optional fast travel, npcs fighting dragons with their bare fists, a skeletal horse (Dawnguard) etc etc, then why wouldn't they have an issue running around some snowy mountain top wearing nothing but underwear?

That aside, I completely agree with your sentiment because I don't go on forums complaining about immersion breaking events and items whilst running around with a scantly clad female that resembles nothing within the game world around me. Still couldn't do it, though. I like my characters to remain semi relevant to the world I'm running around in. Hence why I can't understand others being able to run around with a character that sticks out like a sore thumb.

nine9six

Makkir wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

Pretty sure that used to be a man

Thought the exact same thing when I saw it.

Violynne

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I was really looking forward to this new style but it is really ugly and looks nothing like glass.

Wouldn't the better question be: "Why is there glass armor"?

Seems... odd to put glass in armor.

Kuroinu

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

I want what was promised!

To this day I still can't get my head around how people can immerse themselves in a TES game running around with armour like that.

This isn't aimed at you in the slightest, but something that was always amusing on the Skyrim forums was people coming on complaining about this and that being immersion breaking, then they'd post their female character that looked like she had just walked off the Paris catwalk, wearing nothing but what others could construe as underwear type armour.

At least that mod improved the Bethesda-chest shenanigans.

Robbmrp

For as difficult/expensive it is to get glass Motif Pages, it should look a whole lot better than it does....

People were expecting glass armor/weapons that looked really cool like Skyrim but are extremely disappointed with the ESO Glass versions.

Kuroinu

Robbmrp wrote: »

For as difficult/expensive it is to get glass Motif Pages, it should look a whole lot better than it does....

People were expecting glass armor/weapons that looked really cool like Skyrim but are extremely disappointed with the ESO Glass versions.

All I've seen posted is armour. Need more weapon pics!

H3Li0S

Isnt glass transparent ? You wanna look at the boobies ?

UrQuan

Violynne wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I was really looking forward to this new style but it is really ugly and looks nothing like glass.

Wouldn't the better question be: "Why is there glass armor"?

Seems... odd to put glass in armor.

H3Li0S wrote: »

Isnt glass transparent ? You wanna look at the boobies ?

This is how you identify the folks who never played other Elder Scrolls games