UI Error for Console is very interesting.

Funkopotamus

" The below code pops up every now and again when I start the game I never took the time to actually read it I just cleared it by pressing {A}, but after taking the time found it kinda interesting."


EsoUI/Ingame/ChatSytem/Console/GamepadChatSytem.Iua:460:
attempt to index a nil value
Stack traceback:
EsoUI/Ingame/ChatSytem/Console/GamepadChatSytem.Iua:460:
Function 'ZO_GamepadChatSystem:Minimize'
EsoUI/Ingame/Scenes/IngameFragments.Iua:381: in function
'ZO_MinimizeChatFragments:slow
EsoUI/Libraries/ZO Scene/ZO SceneFragment.Iua:124: in function


Sooooooooooo Is it just me or does or does not the bolded lines look like text chat is actually coded somewhere in this mess for the consoles, but it is just not enabled?


Also nice little slice of info there on the final bold line... Looks to me like spam prevention on the text chat.

Theories? Answers?

Basks

Funkopotamus wrote: »

Sooooooooooo Is it just me or does or does not the bolded lines look like text chat is actually coded somewhere in this mess for the consoles, but it is just not enabled?

Of course it is. Text chat was originally planned for console, and was functional as far as I know, but was scrapped in preference to the living room playstyle.

PinoZino

Funkopotamus wrote: »

" The below code pops up every now and again when I start the game I never took the time to actually read it I just cleared it by pressing {A}, but after taking the time found it kinda interesting."


EsoUI/Ingame/ChatSytem/Console/GamepadChatSytem.Iua:460:
attempt to index a nil value
Stack traceback:
EsoUI/Ingame/ChatSytem/Console/GamepadChatSytem.Iua:460:
Function 'ZO_GamepadChatSystem:Minimize'
EsoUI/Ingame/Scenes/IngameFragments.Iua:381: in function
'ZO_MinimizeChatFragments:slow
EsoUI/Libraries/ZO Scene/ZO SceneFragment.Iua:124: in function


Sooooooooooo Is it just me or does or does not the bolded lines look like text chat is actually coded somewhere in this mess for the consoles, but it is just not enabled?


Also nice little slice of info there on the final bold line... Looks to me like spam prevention on the text chat.

Theories? Answers?

No it means nothing.

When you port code from one environment to another, it happens a lot that you port code you don't need.

One of the above errors is typical for not returning anything from the function call.

Brrrofski

The smallest amount of people would use text chat. It's really not warranted or needed.

I don't get the demand for it on this forum. I'd never use it. I can say what I want in a fraction of the time

PinoZino

Brrrofski wrote: »

The smallest amount of people would use text chat. It's really not warranted or needed.

I don't get the demand for it on this forum. I'd never use it. I can say what I want in a fraction of the time

Indeed.

Probably ZSO noticed while testing with actual users that they didn't use text chat.

I am not a fan of Voice Chat, but that means nothing. If about 80% of the people like and use it, then that functionality is just excellent.

Few people come to a forum to testify they like Voice Chat. You're an anomaly

The non-satisfied players land much easier in a forum. Due their shouting you could get the impression that it's all wrong.

Well, it isn't necessarily. We don't hear the voice of the silent majority.

Brrrofski

Well this forum is a tiny percent of console players.

Most are completely casual and would not use text chat.

Mostly, I turn area chat off and just use group or guild chat

PinoZino

Brrrofski wrote: »

Well this forum is a tiny percent of console players.

Most as completely casual and would not use text chat.

Mostly, I turn area chat off and just use group or guild chat

I don't like Voice Chat at all. I turn it off all the time.
I always hear crying babies, crappy loud music or just rude primitive types.

I use the in-game mail, e-mail and the forum of my guild to communicate.

Gamertaglemieux

OSean980 wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

Sooooooooooo Is it just me or does or does not the bolded lines look like text chat is actually coded somewhere in this mess for the consoles, but it is just not enabled?

Of course it is. Text chat was originally planned for console, and was functional as far as I know, but was scrapped in preference to the living room playstyle.

Game is MUCH BETTER WITHOUT text chat.

Game chat is MORE efficient, better, takes way less time, and by far more superior to text chat in every way.

Chieve

The silent majority would still use text chat

Most people just don't care to use the forums in my opinion.

There is still a use for text chat for many people which is why it should be implemented.

PinoZino

Chieve wrote: »

The silent majority would still use text chat

Most people just don't care to use the forums in my opinion.

There is still a use for text chat for many people which is why it should be implemented.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Dalglish

Dev's probably seen the nightmare of Neverwinter console chat with constant spammers haha!

Chieve

That's why spam filters exist

Dalglish

They existed in that game too, just the general population on consoles are probably not used to text chat etiquette!

Enodoc

PinoZino wrote: »

Funkopotamus wrote: »

" The below code pops up every now and again when I start the game I never took the time to actually read it I just cleared it by pressing {A}, but after taking the time found it kinda interesting."


EsoUI/Ingame/ChatSytem/Console/GamepadChatSytem.Iua:460:
attempt to index a nil value
Stack traceback:
EsoUI/Ingame/ChatSytem/Console/GamepadChatSytem.Iua:460:
Function 'ZO_GamepadChatSystem:Minimize'
EsoUI/Ingame/Scenes/IngameFragments.Iua:381: in function
'ZO_MinimizeChatFragments:slow
EsoUI/Libraries/ZO Scene/ZO SceneFragment.Iua:124: in function


Sooooooooooo Is it just me or does or does not the bolded lines look like text chat is actually coded somewhere in this mess for the consoles, but it is just not enabled?


Also nice little slice of info there on the final bold line... Looks to me like spam prevention on the text chat.

Theories? Answers?

No it means nothing.

When you port code from one environment to another, it happens a lot that you port code you don't need.

One of the above errors is typical for not returning anything from the function call.

That's not ported PC code, it specifically refers to "GamepadChatSystem". Although it may just be a reference to the voice chat rather than an indication of text chat.

PinoZino

Enodoc wrote: »

That's not ported PC code, it specifically refers to "GamepadChatSystem". Although it may just be a reference to the voice chat rather than an indication of text chat.

http://esodata.uesp.net/100010/src/ingame/chatsystem/console/gamepadchatsystem.lua.html

YeOldeGamer

Brrrofski wrote: »

The smallest amount of people would use text chat. It's really not warranted or needed.

I don't get the demand for it on this forum. I'd never use it. I can say what I want in a fraction of the time

Yeah, but I can't hear you because I turn that garbage off as soon as I log in. Pub voice chat was a TERRIBLE idea. Whoever made the decision that I should have to listen to mouth breathing neanderthals. Squeekers. E-thugs. Racists. Random conversations between people I don't care to hear. Couples arguing. Kids getting yelled at because their "parent" is to much of a p.o.s. to put the game down for a minute..... should be ashamed. They should be fired. This is the #1 BIGGEST immersion breaking feature in any game, EVER.

GIVE. US. TEXT. CHAT. PL0X!!!!!

Enodoc

PinoZino wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

That's not ported PC code, it specifically refers to "GamepadChatSystem". Although it may just be a reference to the voice chat rather than an indication of text chat.

http://esodata.uesp.net/100010/src/ingame/chatsystem/console/gamepadchatsystem.lua.html

OK so it's definitely about text chat. I had no idea we had the LUA codes at UESP Loving the dev comments;

Design says we don't want more chat containers on console...

PinoZino

YeOldeGamer wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The smallest amount of people would use text chat. It's really not warranted or needed.

I don't get the demand for it on this forum. I'd never use it. I can say what I want in a fraction of the time

Yeah, but I can't hear you because I turn that garbage off as soon as I log in. Pub voice chat was a TERRIBLE idea. Whoever made the decision that I should have to listen to mouth breathing neanderthals. Squeekers. E-thugs. Racists. Random conversations between people I don't care to hear. Couples arguing. Kids getting yelled at because their "parent" is to much of a p.o.s. to put the game down for a minute..... should be ashamed. They should be fired. This is the #1 BIGGEST immersion breaking feature in any game, EVER.

GIVE. US. TEXT. CHAT. PL0X!!!!!

I don't like Voice Chat either. I heard everything:

• Loud barking dogs
• Crying babies. It’s like they all have crying babies.
• Loud ‘Gabber’ music. Sounds disgusting. Try it here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ah3_DNdXp5o
• Couples who are word-fighting ("put that game off", "*PEEP* off, ***")
• Couples having sex. Nice, but weird.
• Players who are threaten me with an IRL visit. lol
• Sexual harassments. not so lol.
• Obsessive-compulsive people ("Pino, talk to me" and repeating that every 2 minutes)
• ...

But....
...maybe the majority likes it.

IMHO, they should offer both: text and voice chat.

Egonieser

PinoZino wrote: »

YeOldeGamer wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The smallest amount of people would use text chat. It's really not warranted or needed.

I don't get the demand for it on this forum. I'd never use it. I can say what I want in a fraction of the time

Yeah, but I can't hear you because I turn that garbage off as soon as I log in. Pub voice chat was a TERRIBLE idea. Whoever made the decision that I should have to listen to mouth breathing neanderthals. Squeekers. E-thugs. Racists. Random conversations between people I don't care to hear. Couples arguing. Kids getting yelled at because their "parent" is to much of a p.o.s. to put the game down for a minute..... should be ashamed. They should be fired. This is the #1 BIGGEST immersion breaking feature in any game, EVER.

GIVE. US. TEXT. CHAT. PL0X!!!!!

I don't like Voice Chat either. I heard everything:

• Loud barking dogs
• Crying babies. It’s like they all have crying babies.
• Loud ‘Gabber’ music. Sounds disgusting. Try it here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ah3_DNdXp5o
• Couples who are word-fighting ("put that game off", "*PEEP* off, ***")
• Couples having sex. Nice, but weird.
• Players who are threaten me with an IRL visit. lol
• Sexual harassments. not so lol.
• Obsessive-compulsive people ("Pino, talk to me" and repeating that every 2 minutes)
• ...

But....
...maybe the majority likes it.

IMHO, they should offer both: text and voice chat.

Haha, wish somebody would record snippets of it so i can listen to it for the lulz. I hate voice chats in general and my playtime is always around night time when people in my household are mostly asleep, but these hidden gems i have to hear someday. Not heard stuff like this on teamspeak/ventrilo in all my years of gaming.

Funkopotamus

Okay so I went to bed after posting this last night with only one response.

Glad others have taken the time to read and look it up as I have.

That code is in fact TEXT CHAT! So it is there.....
It just needs to be enabled. Guess they will get around to it someday.

Chieve

So.....what are the devs waiting for...

Funkopotamus

Chieve wrote: »

So.....what are the devs waiting for...

Population to crash worse than it has already..

"Looky folks come back to ESO we have updated the game with TEXT CHAT and added a new area on the map"


"No really.......come back...."



"Please?"

Ace_of_Destiny

At this point I really don't give a flying furry rat's arse if they add textchat, or not.
I think it is just too late, for me.

The bugs they added with IC has made the game unable to be played, for me.
And, I doubt they will have it fixed within 47 days, 11 Hours and 15 Minutes...which is when Fallout 4 comes out.

I was going to split my time between F4 & ESO.
But, at the rate ZOS it going...

I doubt it.

If they at least added textchat it would show, me, that they are actually moving in the right direction.

TequilaFire

PinoZino wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

The smallest amount of people would use text chat. It's really not warranted or needed.

I don't get the demand for it on this forum. I'd never use it. I can say what I want in a fraction of the time

Indeed.

Probably ZSO noticed while testing with actual users that they didn't use text chat.

I am not a fan of Voice Chat, but that means nothing. If about 80% of the people like and use it, then that functionality is just excellent.

Few people come to a forum to testify they like Voice Chat. You're an anomaly

The non-satisfied players land much easier in a forum. Due their shouting you could get the impression that it's all wrong.

Well, it isn't necessarily. We don't hear the voice of the silent majority.

No he is not an anomaly, the people who use voice chat as intended for coordination just don't complain as much.

Chieve

Well I'm still for text chat, I'll be sticking with eso for awhile, and if it doesn't have text chat before no man skies comes out...well then idk lol

Ace_of_Destiny

Chieve wrote: »

Well I'm still for text chat, I'll be sticking with eso for awhile, and if it doesn't have text chat before no man skies comes out...well then idk lol

I gave up PC gaming quite a few years ago.
However, after looking into Star Citizen I actually have been pricing the parts to build a new gaming rig.

I may be using all three of my consoles for nothing more than Netflix before long...

Such a shame Game Devs always seem to think console gamers are either morons, or children.

eligh0716

I would rather type my words what I want to sell that trying to scream over that 14 year old kid blasting crappy rap music in my ear, but hey that's just me

Molag_Crow

Chieve wrote: »

The silent majority would still use text chat

Most people just don't care to use the forums in my opinion.

There is still a use for text chat for many people which is why it should be implemented.