lotus fan

barbarian340

wasnt this supposed to be an aoe and DOT after the update? or am i not remembering things correctly?

AlnilamE

Yes.

Daveheart

There's a small AoE, and the DoT is applied to the auxiliary targets if they're affected by the AoE.

barbarian340

thanks

VaxtinTheWolf

I don't know the radius on the move, but for a short time after the update I used it on my tank, And only noticed the visual snare effects on one target. I didn't run specific tests for this move, so I'm not 100% that it's applying to nearby targets or not.

WyldfireWyrm

For all the magicka NBs that aren't tanks, was the change to Lotus Fan worth picking it up?

ScruffyWhiskers

Yes, I'd say so. It hits pretty hard now and the snare is nice. Help's chase down runners or get out of caltrops or targets that are in caltrops or just plain hard to reach.

I think there has definitely been some changes to hitting things at elevations. I gave up teleport strike when 1.6 hit so I haven't used it for a while but ambush seemed to be able to target people up on rocks etc. a lot better.

You need to use it smartly though because getting the concealed weapon stun off is important and lotus fan can make you lazy teleporting here and there to hit a target.

WyldfireWyrm

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

Yes, I'd say so. It hits pretty hard now and the snare is nice. Help's chase down runners or get out of caltrops or targets that are in caltrops or just plain hard to reach.

I think there has definitely been some changes to hitting things at elevations. I gave up teleport strike when 1.6 hit so I haven't used it for a while but ambush seemed to be able to target people up on rocks etc. a lot better.

You need to use it smartly though because getting the concealed weapon stun off is important and lotus fan can make you lazy teleporting here and there to hit a target.

So is it a DoT or does it give the brunt of the damage up front, like Teleporting Strike?

Besides becoming a vampire, is there a way for magicka nightblades to get the stealth speed bonus? I ask this because Concealed Weapon gives a bit of a bonus and I can't see myself using both CW and Lotus Fan when they both basically perform the same thing (one is single target and one is AOE).

ScruffyWhiskers

It's on par with unmorphed teleport strike up front. There is a DoT applied after the initial damage as well. Average magicka/spell power nb will have a 4.x k -ish initial hit plus a 2.x k ish DoT.

Vampire or bust. Night's Silence has the 5 piece bonus but stam item set bonuses. Shadow Dancer would possibly be an option but I'm pretty sure it is limited to v14.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Lotus Fan is OP, strongly thinking about rerolling magic with the buff to snares and the fix to cloak hitting six people with the full power of my current Ambush is just so good. Magicka Nightblades just hit so much hard then stamina.

barbarian340

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Lotus Fan is OP, strongly thinking about rerolling magic with the buff to snares and the fix to cloak hitting six people with the full power of my current Ambush is just so good. Magicka Nightblades just hit so much hard then stamina.

lmao!!!!!

WyldfireWyrm

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Lotus Fan is OP, strongly thinking about rerolling magic with the buff to snares and the fix to cloak hitting six people with the full power of my current Ambush is just so good. Magicka Nightblades just hit so much hard then stamina.

I'm not sure about that. I've read a lot of threads since the IC PC launch that have said the magicka NB was not everything the hype made it out to be and stamina NB is not as broken as was though to be.

Elijah_Crow

barbarian340 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Lotus Fan is OP, strongly thinking about rerolling magic with the buff to snares and the fix to cloak hitting six people with the full power of my current Ambush is just so good. Magicka Nightblades just hit so much hard then stamina.

lmao!!!!!

Lol. No. Just no. Magica Nightblades have great sustain, and with a lot of work can come close, but not quite, to the damage of Stamina Nightblades. Stamina Nightblade is where the strong DPS is.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

barbarian340 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Lotus Fan is OP, strongly thinking about rerolling magic with the buff to snares and the fix to cloak hitting six people with the full power of my current Ambush is just so good. Magicka Nightblades just hit so much hard then stamina.

lmao!!!!!

No really just retooled today my DPS is up 3k. It's not the burst but it's the mix of DoTs and burst and my survivability is through the roof. Honestly no I can't kill in three hits anymore but I kill more people with a wider range of DoTs and the same burst. I geared my stamina build to hit hard and made my caster the same way it's much better.

Most people's problem is they do pure damage on stamina and try to go max magic and regen with much lower spell damage and cry magic is weaker don't care much about regen with stamina don't care with magic and I hit even harder with more class powers now usable. If your magic blade is doing bad rework your build try your own thing break that old dried up mold and stop playing cookie cutter builds.