No more stamina Regeneration while blocking. Farewell to all Tanks.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

I don't know about everyone else but the announcement of no stamina regeneration while blocking cuts me straight to the bone. What do Tanks do best? They block! and what does blocking and taunting use stamina. How do I regenerate stamina? I BLOCK! so how am i supposed to gain stamina now? No one knows.
Please feel free to comment on this subject and provide feedback. Any tips will be welcome. Thanks alot zinimax. Not really though.

BuggeX

this doesnt Change nothing to Tanks, trust me....
you can still permablock, but not with the same gear/Setup you are doing it now

JPDingera

As a Master Alchemist, I have a wonderful idea. how about using the tactical advantage of potions. There are potions of immovability, potions of stamina that restore stamina as well as give you a hefty bonus to stamina regen. there's also great foods out there that give you buffs to health and stamina simultaneously. Sorry if you can;t handle any gameplay past block and attack, but I'm sure the rest of us will be just fine.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

yeah i figgured it would be some doo doo like that. I worked so hard to get my footman gear now useless. but not completly

BuggeX

footman will still a good set

Personofsecrets

@christophermpetersb14_ESO ,

If you don't have a big reason to stay a tank, then I suggest that you abandon the role. DPS is much more rewarding in PVP anyhow.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

its just gonna change my play style that i have been using for the past year and a half. Me no like it. also I can craft Everything. not a prob to make a few pots. just discouraged at how everytime there is a new patch i have to change how i play the game. Sux Sux Sux.

Lamiai

I have a tank/dps pvp build atm, dont have stam running out. Huge mana regen, use certain dk skills for stam restoring etc works amazing

cjthibs

Another one...really? Didn't we hash all of this out a month ago?

Let's think about this for one second.

Any shield capable of blocking significant amounts of damage will be heavy.
Despite how buff you are, holding up heavy objects will wear you out. (Don't believe me? Grab a couple textbooks and hold them out in front of you for a minute or three. (Not paperbacks, big books.))
You feel that burning? That's your arms losing the capability to continue doing that forever.
Do you know what you need to do to be able to do that some more?

Rest your arms!

Now imagine getting smacked on that shield repeatedly. How long can you sustain that?

So...how does this not make sense?

MissBizz

JPDingera wrote: »

As a Master Alchemist, I have a wonderful idea. how about using the tactical advantage of potions. There are potions of immovability, potions of stamina that restore stamina as well as give you a hefty bonus to stamina regen. <snip>

@JPDingera Most people haven't even downloaded and you're already upselling and marking up your wares Let me guess, inflation caused your stamina potions to increase in price slightly today. Haha, jk

I have not ran through dungeons on my tank, although I have ran through a couple on my healer. The first couple days of the DLC weren't easy, adjusting to a bunch of new changes (everyone, not just tanks). Within a few days tanks were figuring out how to leverage passives, potions etc. and saying that the no regen wasn't as bad as they thought (mind you, they still didn't LIKE it). Try it out, look over your passives, search through the forums as I know a few threads have discussed ways to help deal with it. It will most definitely be different, but it is still doable.

Lamiai

cjthibs wrote: »

Another one...really? Didn't we hash all of this out a month ago?

Let's think about this for one second.

Any shield capable of blocking significant amounts of damage will be heavy.
Despite how buff you are, holding up heavy objects will wear you out. (Don't believe me? Grab a couple textbooks and hold them out in front of you for a minute or three. (Not paperbacks, big books.))
You feel that burning? That's your arms losing the capability to continue doing that forever.
Do you know what you need to do to be able to do that some more?

Rest your arms!

Now imagine getting smacked on that shield repeatedly. How long can you sustain that?

So...how does this not make sense?

But when i try to activate my take flight in the kitchen nothing happens...what gives?

christophermpetersb14_ESO

I was thinking about trying this new stam build templar i saw on internet for Dps. It looks pretty rewarding. But for PVE and group dungeons A Tank is a necessity. there r too few of us out there as it is.

Tan9oSuccka

cjthibs wrote: »

Another one...really? Didn't we hash all of this out a month ago?

Let's think about this for one second.

Any shield capable of blocking significant amounts of damage will be heavy.
Despite how buff you are, holding up heavy objects will wear you out. (Don't believe me? Grab a couple textbooks and hold them out in front of you for a minute or three. (Not paperbacks, big books.))
You feel that burning? That's your arms losing the capability to continue doing that forever.
Do you know what you need to do to be able to do that some more?

Rest your arms!

Now imagine getting smacked on that shield repeatedly. How long can you sustain that?

So...how does this not make sense?

In the world of magic, elves and cat people, this argument is invalid.

JPDingera

christophermpetersb14_ESO wrote: »

its just gonna change my play style that i have been using for the past year and a half. Me no like it. also I can craft Everything. not a prob to make a few pots. just discouraged at how everytime there is a new patch i have to change how i play the game. Sux Sux Sux.

Sorry for my seemingly buttholish comment before. I see your point. Most mmo's do that to you though. They listen to the community and make changes for half that the other half will be mad about. it's a never ending battle. best you could do i guess is learn to play a different way than what you are used to, or like another poster said, change classes altogether. i, myself, have started a nightblade archer. I've never played an archer in any other game before and it is definitely going to be a tough change for me.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

Agreed. Its a fantasy game not real life. So keep some fantasy n the game.

JPDingera

MissBizz wrote: »

JPDingera wrote: »

As a Master Alchemist, I have a wonderful idea. how about using the tactical advantage of potions. There are potions of immovability, potions of stamina that restore stamina as well as give you a hefty bonus to stamina regen. <snip>

@JPDingera Most people haven't even downloaded and you're already upselling and marking up your wares Let me guess, inflation caused your stamina potions to increase in price slightly today. Haha, jk

lol, no. I don't sell my pots. i barely ever use them and i give them away to people that need them. Maybe the devs saw that otheres were doing the same thing. This game has a distinct lack of a need to use potions. I beat a lot of ass even when i forget to eat some food or use a magicka pot. maybe these changes to the game will open up the actual need for them

Forestd16b14_ESO

Me and some other tanks seem to do our job pretty well still. This change didn't do anything it just tried to stop perma blockers but saddly that fail. It atleast showed who could really tank and who couldn't.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

I am just venting to all who will listen and give actual input. This game is made better by the community ant there feedback. Not the devs. well they have a little to do with it but more so the Players. lol

cjthibs

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Another one...really? Didn't we hash all of this out a month ago?

Let's think about this for one second.

Any shield capable of blocking significant amounts of damage will be heavy.
Despite how buff you are, holding up heavy objects will wear you out. (Don't believe me? Grab a couple textbooks and hold them out in front of you for a minute or three. (Not paperbacks, big books.))
You feel that burning? That's your arms losing the capability to continue doing that forever.
Do you know what you need to do to be able to do that some more?

Rest your arms!

Now imagine getting smacked on that shield repeatedly. How long can you sustain that?

So...how does this not make sense?

In the world of magic, elves and cat people, this argument is invalid.

Except for one thing. If it's based on stamina...it ain't magic.

zornyan

cjthibs wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Another one...really? Didn't we hash all of this out a month ago?

Let's think about this for one second.

Any shield capable of blocking significant amounts of damage will be heavy.
Despite how buff you are, holding up heavy objects will wear you out. (Don't believe me? Grab a couple textbooks and hold them out in front of you for a minute or three. (Not paperbacks, big books.))
You feel that burning? That's your arms losing the capability to continue doing that forever.
Do you know what you need to do to be able to do that some more?

Rest your arms!

Now imagine getting smacked on that shield repeatedly. How long can you sustain that?

So...how does this not make sense?

In the world of magic, elves and cat people, this argument is invalid.

Except for one thing. If it's based on stamina...it ain't magic.

Ba dooom pssshht

Vangy

Op you can still perma block and be a successful tank. BUT... u need engin guardian, gold gear with gold enchants plus pretty perfect rolls and around 300 CP. I already gave up tanking for a sexy greatsword. Go WB you wont regret it =D

AbraXuSeXile

I never tanked before patch but on my dk i run seducer footman, if stam getting low and ive no ulti i just spam igneous and i het my stam back. Not sure if this is the correct way.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

Damn this patch on the console is taking forever.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

3 percent and its been thirty minutes. doo dooo. lol.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

cjthibs wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Another one...really? Didn't we hash all of this out a month ago?

Let's think about this for one second.

Any shield capable of blocking significant amounts of damage will be heavy.
Despite how buff you are, holding up heavy objects will wear you out. (Don't believe me? Grab a couple textbooks and hold them out in front of you for a minute or three. (Not paperbacks, big books.))
You feel that burning? That's your arms losing the capability to continue doing that forever.
Do you know what you need to do to be able to do that some more?

Rest your arms!

Now imagine getting smacked on that shield repeatedly. How long can you sustain that?

So...how does this not make sense?

In the world of magic, elves and cat people, this argument is invalid.

Except for one thing. If it's based on stamina...it ain't magic.

U must b DPS.

Bhakura

No wonder my tank gets so much hate, only blocks powerattacks. No powerattacks? Doesnt block, ever

christophermpetersb14_ESO

dime a dozen

christophermpetersb14_ESO

Tanks make the dungeons go round imo lol.

christophermpetersb14_ESO

No tank DPS dies. No healer Tank die. no stamina no taunt DPS die again. Squishy DPS.

cjthibs

christophermpetersb14_ESO wrote: »

U must b DPS.

I mostly play a stam build that switches between DPS and Tanking actually.

Are we about to get our 'No True Scotsman' on?

christophermpetersb14_ESO

lol