[Bug] [Video] Health Bar not showing accurate full health

Huggalump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDfNkUwYa1k

This started happening a few days ago. I log in with full health. Have a few fights and my health bar won't update to full health even though I am full. When I'm in groups, group members see my hp bar as full. In fact, in the video, there's a point where my HP bar drops to zero, but I don't die.

I know there's other people that have experienced this. It makes the game unplayable, especially in IC where dying has consequences.

In this video:

1) I show that healing doesn't affect it.
2) I show all the buffs and stats I have on.
3) I show a fight to show how it's working with crit surge and to show what it looks like after the fight
4) I relog and show that it still happens with zero add ons loaded.
5) I show that "reloadui" does not change it.

zos halp

Asmael

There was this bug in 1.6, and is still extremely problematic, and hard to correct for a player, since you have to either 1) die 2) take damage so that your "actual" amount of HP is extremely low, so that you can regen it accordingly (if you drop to 5%, you'll be able to regen up to 95%).

Needless to say how dangerous that bug is.

When this happens in Cyro (not IC), I jump from the top of a keep, then adjust a second jump to bring my health very low. Of course, it'd be fine without having to do it...

Huggalump

Asmael wrote: »

There was this bug in 1.6, and is still extremely problematic, and hard to correct for a player, since you have to either 1) die 2) take damage so that your "actual" amount of HP is extremely low, so that you can regen it accordingly (if you drop to 5%, you'll be able to regen up to 95%).

Needless to say how dangerous that bug is.

When this happens in Cyro (not IC), I jump from the top of a keep, then adjust a second jump to bring my health very low. Of course, it'd be fine without having to do it...

Good information.

Unfortunately, probably not a good idea to try something like that work around in the IC haha

Xantaria

Did you get healed by the Templar healing Ultimate while taking damage before this happened to your health bar?

Huggalump

Xantaria wrote: »

Did you get healed by the Templar healing Ultimate while taking damage before this happened to your health bar?

no. It happens even when playing solo


EDIT: in fact, in the second half of the video, all I did was log out, log back in, then fight one spider. Already you can see the health bar stopping a little bit short of full

Gilvoth

i have had the same problem, eventually it went away but it is still annoying.

Huggalump

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

i have had the same problem, eventually it went away but it is still annoying.

weird. Did it go away after a patch? or was it just completely random




Also, for Devs, more information: I played an alt for a bit, the bug didn't happen on my alt. Not the most thorough testing, but it seems like it's only on my character from the video. It happens EVERY time I play him lately

Dreizopf

Xantaria wrote: »

Did you get healed by the Templar healing Ultimate while taking damage before this happened to your health bar?

I am a templar healer and I see this problem every day on myself after using my heal ulti while getting damage too. My experience is, that this is happening by a combination of templar-heal-ulti plus purge plus getting-damage.

It's annoying. And I must say, I have reduced life really, I die at 0k life, my group buddies do see my reduced life bar. And if another guy has this problem, I see the reduced life bar too. Only relogging or dying will help.

Huggalump

Is anyone else experiencing this? Or has anyone else had it and then seen it go away?

likewow777

I've seen it prior to the patch as well, but back then the entire group could also see the incorrect HP values. I guess it's an "upgrade" to only see it on one's self. Still, it's quite panic inducing when HP looks like it's at 2%, and you heal over and over to no effect.

Needless to say, we used the almighty power of a full group wipe to fix it. I have not experienced it personally since the update.

Gilvoth

Huggalump wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

i have had the same problem, eventually it went away but it is still annoying.

weird. Did it go away after a patch? or was it just completely random

no, it only started with the imperial city patch, then it went away and then it returned again with this last patch on monday. but now today it looks like is gone again.
but i have seen this happen alot of other times before.

Gilvoth

also, note:

i have since the imperial city patch seen this happen to mobbs, wierd as it sounds, yeah, happened to mobbs.
random, and never know what cause it ...

Huggalump

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

also, note:

i have since the imperial city patch seen this happen to mobbs, wierd as it sounds, yeah, happened to mobbs.
random, and never know what cause it ...

Yeah! I've been seeing a lot of mob health acting weird. Mobs get to maybe 10% hp, stand still, then suddenly go into death animation. I assume it's because the health bar is bugged and it's actually dead before I see the health bar drop.

I've also seen mobs with about 40% hp suddenly die. Not sure if that's a bug or if it's due to different abilities I'm using. Feels like something is off though.

Huggalump

likewow777 wrote: »

I've seen it prior to the patch as well, but back then the entire group could also see the incorrect HP values. I guess it's an "upgrade" to only see it on one's self. Still, it's quite panic inducing when HP looks like it's at 2%, and you heal over and over to no effect.

Needless to say, we used the almighty power of a full group wipe to fix it. I have not experienced it personally since the update.

Thinking about it now, I'm not 100% sure they saw my hp bar as full. I asked in teamspeak if my health bar looks full and the (very quick) response was something like, "You're fine, it sounds like the health bar bug. But you're fine." I figured that meant he saw my healthbar as full, but I could be wrong.

Gilvoth

you know what?
now that you mention it, i seem to remember people saying mobbs did not attack and did not react to them in craglorn, that only 1 mobb would come after them when normaly the entire group would chase.

i wonder if this is because the mobbs are registering you as not alive in some cases.
i have seen mobbs act sometimes as if im not even there, i get spooked and go into sneak and wonder why they never reacted. maybe now we see why ?

Waffennacht

Yeah I've had it happen more often in the past, had it happen a few days ago. When I took damage... or did an ability... or something it went back to normal... i just can't remember what i did

Lylith

i used to get it all the time in cyrodil.

then it seemed to stop for a bit, when i.c. was introduced.

today it came back.

Huggalump

UPDATE: still happening, at least to me

autoexec

I use equilibrium ( mage guild skill ) to drain my HP when I bug out and then it regens back normally afterwards. Works for me at least.

Huggalump

This bug is still happening. It would be really nice to be able to tell how close or far I am from dying while playing in the Imperial City...

Huggalump

UPDATE: The bug is still happening, holy ***.

I've been in communication with ZOS tech support all week and they have no idea what it is either. That's confusing because when I mention the bug in guild chat, there's almost always another person that has experienced it. Even so, I don't know of anyone who has it as bad as me. It happens to me 100% of the time I play this character.

Here's a few other details I've found about the bug:

- Only affects one character. This is the strangest part of the bug. My alts all play fine. The bug only happens on my v16 stam sorc.

- It also causes NPC health to act strange, and you see it in the original video in the OP. See the first spider that dies? It's sitting around 45% hp. Unfortunately, it goes behind a rock, but you almost immediately hear the Tel Var stone "ca ching" sound which means it died. From a dot while at 45% hp.... That's not right.


Here's what I've tried:

- Playing with mods disabled.

- Completely deleting all mods from my computer.

- Completely deleting the game and all folders and reinstalling.

- Starting my computer in safe mode.

- Changing from heavy armor with 1/shield and 2h to medium armor with bow and 2h. Then I tried going with bow and different weapon with no 2h skills on the bar.

None of these made any difference. Bug always happens on my main, never happens on my alts.


Here's what I need:

- If you have EVER had this bug or heard of anyone having this bug, please let me know any details you can. Does it happen often? What class are they? What kind of skills are they using?

Anything would be so appreciated, this bug has made the game unplayable for me for the last three or so weeks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y_zAo_HLOM

Huggalump

halp

Huggalump

adding another thing to the list of stuff I tried

Just now I downloaded and installed the game on my work computer. No addons installed. I did one dolmen, and the bug happened.

So the problem is not with my computer or connection

JaneCandyCane

I've experienced this often, too. I'm a templar and when I'm healing groups in Cyrodiil I see this all the time. Group members usually see my health bar as full, but not always.

I think it happens when I'm taking hits while healing. Especially while using the healing ultimate.

Huggalump

JaneCandyCane wrote: »

I've experienced this often, too. I'm a templar and when I'm healing groups in Cyrodiil I see this all the time. Group members usually see my health bar as full, but not always.

I think it happens when I'm taking hits while healing. Especially while using the healing ultimate.

Thanks for the info!

I almost never run in a group, but once I did and the bug happened. They said they saw my health at full.

I run with crit surge and, usually, rally. I'm not sure why, but I do agree that it probably has something to do with healing in some way. Strange, then, that I haven't had the issue on my Templar alt, tho the only heals he uses are breath of life and ... repentance? The one that heals from corpses.

I never do this but... @ZOS_GinaBruno @zos whoever else.

I'm sure you guys get a hundred tags a minute, but this is a game breaking bug.

k2blader

Has this bug been officially addressed yet? Experienced it on PC tonight-- extremely problematic for obvious reasons.

Please fix this bug...................

hrothbern

I have a similar bug for Stamina and Magicka (not health) if I have no addons.
with the combination of NB Siphoning attacks and Blur (evasion)
It seems that both in combat and out of combat the Mag & Stam recovery is dodged in the bars, and never show up anymore until I travel by Wayshrine or log out or die.


The bug is consistently there since begin 2015 (earlier my level was too low to see it)

Huggalump

k2blader wrote: »

Has this bug been officially addressed yet? Experienced it on PC tonight-- extremely problematic for obvious reasons.

Please fix this bug...................

Officially addressed? Sort of? There's a ZOS response in this thread*. Also, I've been working with ZOS bug support for the past... almost the past month or so. All the videos you see here were actually made for me to send to support.

I've been running a heavy armor, melee stam sorc build for the past week. The bug never happened. Last night, I switched back to my stam sorc archer build. The bug happened almost immediately.

* EDIT: Woops, I meant this thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2286208#Comment_2286208

ontheleftcoast

I've had the damn bar in the group UI show me as dead while the bar on the screen showed me at full (or sometimes reduced) health. Clearly there are multiple sources of information being gathered and looked at by the game and they're not properly synchronized. This is an all too common problem with multi-threaded and client/server code and unfortunately the most common fixes for these problems is to put horrible, performance killing, global locks on information updates. It doesn't have to be done this way but seeing how ZOS has tackled problems in the past doesn't give me warm fuzzies about their ability to fix this problem without messing something else up big time.