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Magicka Nightblade - DW or DStaff?

  • Farorin
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    I use DW and resto on my magicka NB, it seems to work well, I use resto for the shield, Funnel health, and as my ranged bar, and I use dual wield for up close damage potential, and AOE.
  • Mitchblue
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    I'm confused now :)
    Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?
  • Mitchblue
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    I've been using Atronach for the whole time, VR6 currently. I think I'm going to try it with the Mage mundus.
    Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?
  • Leon119
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Leon119 wrote: »
    First of all lightning staff > fire/frost staff > resto staff in terms of light attack dmg
    This is simply incorrect, and demonstrably so with a simple experiment.

    I crafted four VR9 staves, non-set, all identical except for the type, and light-attacked the VR5 senche tigers in Reaper's March.
    • Inferno staff: 1032 non-crit damage per light attack
    • Lightning staff: 1032 non-crit damage per light attack
    • Ice staff: 1032 non-crit damage per light attack
    • Resto staff: 1120 non-crit damage per light attack

    All four staves--identical in every way except for the type--do the exact same amount of damage per light attack (once you factor out my 8.7% Magic Damage bonus from CP, the resto's light attacks are the same as the others). That's because light attacks are governed entirely by your spell power and any buffs/debuffs for a particular damage type.
    Leon119 wrote: »
    2 sometimes force pulse due to the fact its a triple damaging attack is better since it can proc stuff like nereineth/scathing mage easier
    Still not a good reason to use it.
    • Funnel Health: 5102 Magic Damage (tooltip) for 602 Magicka cost. 8.5 dmg/cost
    • Force Shock: 1442x3=4326 (tooltip) for 1575 Magicka cost. 2.8 dmg/cost

    What few perks there are to using Force Shock doesn't come remotely close to making up for its huge shortcomings.
    Leon119 wrote: »
    3 you dont need a damage shield also healing ward shield is pretty crappy tbh
    Especially when soloing content, like taking down a portal solo in the Imperial Sewers, being able to spam shields is a good way to stay alive. Also, Ward Ally is the superior morph, not Healing Ward, since there is no guarantee that you'll get the HW on yourself, whereas WA guarantees that you'll always get the ward for yourself. Magicka nightblades already get more than enough healing from their attacks--what they need is a bubble that gives their Funnels and Saps time to work.
    Leon119 wrote: »
    4 the secondary effects and passives from destro are much better than resto
    Resto stopped being good after they changed circle of life
    No. The passives from destruction staves are pretty mediocre for the magblades. The passives that affect abilities are moot since, frankly, the destruction staff abilities are inferior to the magblade's class abilities. And the passives that affect heavy attacks are largely moot since generally people don't heavy attack unless it's to regenerate magicka, in which case, the resto staff's passives are actually better. And there are no passives for light attacks.


    And there's still the issue of Champion Points. Why split your CP between two different damage types? If you stack heavily in Thaumaturge (as you should as a magblade), the resto staff looks even more appealing.

    Maybe i made a wrong calculation based on mob resistances on light attacks so sure that might be wrong ( was testing on deadra which have shock weakness if im not mistaken )

    Force pulse is still supperior though. If you plan on using funnel then you dont get any magicka regen back from elem drain so low cost or not unless u have alot of CP with molag kena you will have resource problems.
    Or tell your healer to slot siphon spirit which he probobly wont...
    also force pulse procs burning dot as well. As well as the fact u can put a poison glyph means u can have 2 different dots at the same time.
    Also with the removal of spell pen from apprentice stone and the buff to resistance values on mobs any spell pen you can get is much welcome. Just ignoring the 10% from destro is pretty bad imo.
    If you are talking about dmg shields in pvp you should really not use that against stamina builds in general due to shieldbreaker set and also the fact that shields dont value mitigation and when they pop extra damage is dealt to you fully will probobly make you die easier.
    Sewers is not really content designed to be soloable you know. Especially the dolmen parts. If u want a self heal i would go with rapid or mutagen.

    Also maxing out cp on thaumaturge gives diminishing effects to the point its better to go 75 and put more into elfborn spell erosion or staff expert for more dps if you have only 100 CP for example.

    Please post numbers from a boss fight that showcases your dps with a destro force build compared to a resto funnel build proving its better.
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