Why would someone use two destro staffs for weapon swap

IdesofMarch2

I have read about this and am curious what the advantages are. I am a lv 34 altmer dk and am trying to put together a build for myself but I'm still learning. I currently use dw for my second bar and destro on my first bar. I would like to build a firemage type.

Alucardo

There's really no need for two destro staves. You have a limit number of abilities in the destruction skill tree, so it'd just be a waste.

Aett_Thorn

Well, if you are building a single-target bar, and an AoE bar, I could see doing this.

1 bar for things like Force Pulse and other ST abilities

1 bar for Impulse and other AoEs or buffs.

IdesofMarch2

Yes Aett!!!! That's what I was just reading about. And I never thought of that before. Seems like a good idea. I just have to figure out which skills are single and aoe lol

Artfuldodger

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

Well, if you are building a single-target bar, and an AoE bar, I could see doing this.

1 bar for things like Force Pulse and other ST abilities

1 bar for Impulse and other AoEs or buffs.

That is your answer right there.

Cuyler

THIS is what we were using up until last week

Alucardo wrote: »

There's really no need for two destro staves. You have a limit number of abilities in the destruction skill tree, so it'd just be a waste.

I disagree for many reasons.

IdesofMarch2

Cool boys thank you. I think I know how to proceed. How was it working for you Cuyler

Cuyler

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

Cool boys thank you. I think I know how to proceed. How was it working for you Cuyler

The build still pulls decent numbers now and may be special once the v16 stuff is acquired, we'll see. Although it doesn't look to keep up with the overload sorcs yet.

IdesofMarch2

Yeah prob not sorcs. I'm gonna give it a try. Just have to respec my attributes. Maybe my skills as well.

UrQuan

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

Well, if you are building a single-target bar, and an AoE bar, I could see doing this.

1 bar for things like Force Pulse and other ST abilities

1 bar for Impulse and other AoEs or buffs.

This is exactly why my magicka DPS setup uses 2 destro staves. I could also imagine that someone might want to use a different type of destro staff on each bar to get different elemental effects.

Allyhoo811

UrQuan wrote: »

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

Well, if you are building a single-target bar, and an AoE bar, I could see doing this.

1 bar for things like Force Pulse and other ST abilities

1 bar for Impulse and other AoEs or buffs.

This is exactly why my magicka DPS setup uses 2 destro staves. I could also imagine that someone might want to use a different type of destro staff on each bar to get different elemental effects.

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I myself have been contemplating using two different types of destroy staves when soloing now that they fire staff isn't quite as powerful as it use to be (I currently use a resto staff as my second weapon, but as a Templar, I don't need it for heals). Has anyone tried going fire on one bar and lightening on the other. I love the extra damage the fire staff does, but I'm missing the stun from destructive clench. The loss doesn't affect me for group content (I play a healer and use a totally different build when in groups), but I did like that ability for soloing.

k9mouse

I heard that some NPCs are weak against lighting and others (almost all) are weak against fire -- one could carry one of each type for the type of NPCs that are facing.

IdesofMarch2

I just tried it out. Works pretty well. I just have to figure which skills to put in the bar. I'm using two fire staffs but may use restoration and fire or shock.

CP5

UrQuan wrote: »

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

Well, if you are building a single-target bar, and an AoE bar, I could see doing this.

1 bar for things like Force Pulse and other ST abilities

1 bar for Impulse and other AoEs or buffs.

This is exactly why my magicka DPS setup uses 2 destro staves. I could also imagine that someone might want to use a different type of destro staff on each bar to get different elemental effects.

My caster sorc runs a frost and shock staff in pvp. The shock staff is for disintegrate and now that the heavy attack hits 6 targets with the aoe I can get a decent number of procs, and frost staffs snares and ranged root are great at burning stamina with how the game changed.

Darlgon

Darlgon

Alucardo wrote: »

There's really no need for two destro staves. You have a limit number of abilities in the destruction skill tree, so it'd just be a waste.

Yes, and another 15 class skills to fill up the 10 skills on the weapon-swap bar. (Not counting all the other lines)

Scyantific

PvE I run Destro on my main bar for single target DPS, and on my secondary I run dual swords for executes and general AoE.

IdesofMarch2

That's what I was running SCY. I just figured in pvp it wouldn't work well.

CP5

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

That's what I was running SCY. I just figured in pvp it wouldn't work well.

Well to be honest, the passives alone alter how each element staff works, let alone how the Reach and Wall spells alter between the elements. I would just say each fits different roles and if you're trying to work with those different roles then using two destruction staves isn't a bad idea.

Violynne

IdesofMarch2 wrote: »

I have read about this and am curious what the advantages are.

The reason why I do it comes down to having to types of skill attacks but using the inferno staff.

One skill tree uses three lightning skills while the other uses dark magic. Both have daedric summoning (so I don't lose my pets when I swap).

I'll throw down lightning spells for the DoT attacks then swap over for the more contact damage (crystal shards, clench).

I see no reason to use any other type of weapon. In fact, I'm trying to get this down to a point I don't use my staff at all and play strictly magic. This will take a little time as I need to level up all my skills.