Who moved my cheese?

jrkhan
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Since its been 6 months since the last patch, I think many of us have become too comfortable with what constituted 'skill' in 1.6

That cheese is gone.

Complaining that 1vx isn't possible and opportunity for a small group to beat a large group doesn't exist -two days into the patch?
Maybe if in a few weeks/months we still don't have effective strategies I'd agree.


The sooner you accept that the old cheese is gone, the sooner you can start enjoying the new cheese.

Here's some observations about what I see as opportunities for skilled play now that burst/bomb groups are 37.5% less effective:

Training a sweeper in to a large group and cleaning up.
Running 'agressive war horn' if you didn't before.
Tighten up your timing on burst. The potential is still there - you just need more of it.
Hit and run tactics - movement through imperial city is perilous - use that to your advantage (a bigger group is more likely to agro something they shouldn't)
Cordinated focus fire of individual target (kill the healers)



Actually, I think there are more opportunities now to really make tactical play more relevant.
When you could just stack 4-8 pbaoes and run over/through any healing it made things like target prioritzation pointless.


The main point is, every patch people complain about their 'skill' no longer being a factor - when the game changes, if you are falling back on that old 'skill' the harder it is to learn/adapt to the new optimal 'skillful' strategy.
Edited by jrkhan on September 2, 2015 7:29PM
  • Ezareth
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    Skill will always be a factor. Even if it just reduced to mashing the same keys "faster" then the competition.

    People are only complaining that skill has become *less* of a factor which is not a thing we enjoy.
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  • Truewavesound
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    Find new cheese!
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    Everything you said in the OP was echoed in a post by Lefty Labeouf in another thread.

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    A bad case of players saying the Greek yogurt is bad before even having tasted it. Stick to your artificially colored Yoplait Trix Yogurt.

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    Edited by Publius_Scipio on September 2, 2015 11:03PM
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  • Araxleon
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Skill will always be a factor. Even if it just reduced to mashing the same keys "faster" then the competition.

    People are only complaining that skill has become *less* of a factor which is not a thing we enjoy.

    Attributes 1.5 -1.7

    1.5 - 50% magicka 50% stamina
    1.6 - 75% in magicka 25% stamina
    1.7 - 100% magicka

    Builds become more and more simplified, I dont even have to worry about stamina as magicka build anymore.

    (Magicka builds dont need to worry about stam recovery much anymore)
    Edited by Araxleon on September 3, 2015 3:04AM
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  • Stikato
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    can we just have one thread for this possibly?
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  • Alucardo
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    Stikato wrote: »
    can we just have one thread for this possibly?

    Well, can it be this one? It has the word 'cheese' in it
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  • Darlgon
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    Sheogorath....
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
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  • Stikato
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Stikato wrote: »
    can we just have one thread for this possibly?

    Well, can it be this one? It has the word 'cheese' in it

    compelling =) I'm sold.

    Maybe one thread for new cheese, and one for old cheese.

    Which IS funny, as everyone thinks older cheese is better lol
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  • AhPook_Is_Here
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  • Aquanova
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    I moved your cheese! to another post that had a lot of "wine" :D
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