An experience boost for altoholics?

purplederpy

If you're like me, you can't stick to just one character. Sometimes you wanna level an alt with a totally different build and playstyle. Good! And every time, you're starting anew, gaining levels and speccing into new abilities; this is why I find the leveling experience to be one of ESO's best qualities!
At least... the first or second time around.
After the 7th, it gets a little dull.
We all abused the late mob grinds of Fungal Grotto and the recently departed Wayrest Sewers, Divines rest their souls, because we just wanted the fast track to VR14/16!
Is that smart for a totally new player? Heck naw. They'd be skipping content they have never experienced.

Us vets on the other hand, have resorted to mob grinding out in the world. Which is just about as dull as doing all the questlines an 8th time.

I think players who already have higher level characters on their account should have an XP buff on all other characters they have that are below the high-level characters level.
You would, of course, have to factor in the Cadwell's Gold and Silver campaigns as well, so here's a quick example.
- I have a VR1 character on the Daggerfall Covenant, now I want to make an alt.
- I make this alt, also on the Covenant.
- Because I have already endured the DC quest experience the first time around, the alt will have increased XP gain until they reach the same level as my high level character, which in this case is VR1.

However, on none of my characters have I completed Cadwell's Gold and Silver.
- So even though my EP character is VR1, characters I make on the Dominion or Pact would not have the XP buff, because those zones and quests have yet to be experienced.
- Were I to complete Gold and Silver, alts on every faction would be eligible for this XP boost.

Lastly!
Let's say, besides my VR1 DC character, I also have a low-level alt on the Dominion.
- With this alt, I complete the Dominion campaign.
- This does not qualify my VR1 for increased XP in the Dominion campaign/Cadwell's Silver.
- Why? Because I do not have any higher level characters than that VR1. Otherwise they would qualify for the buff.

This buff would not be super OP, because we still want those XP boost potions to be valuable. I'm thinking something along the lines of another 10-20%? Somewhere in that range?

Questions? Comments? Concerns? Feedback? Death threats? Post any of the first 4 things down below and let me know if you think this would be a good idea?

Kaitona

A 10% exp gain to your account for EACH alt that reaches VR1 would be fair. Get all 8 to VR1 and you get an 80% bonus exp gain for your ninth character.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Don't dare adding an xp boost to non vet characters. I love playing on the non vet campaign and don't want to reach v1 faster just because I allready have multiple high vet rank chars.

purplederpy

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Don't dare adding an xp boost to non vet characters. I love playing on the non vet campaign and don't want to reach v1 faster just because I allready have multiple high vet rank chars.

That I can understand. Perhaps an option to toggle it on/off?

purplederpy

Kaitona wrote: »

A 10% exp gain to your account for EACH alt that reaches VR1 would be fair. Get all 8 to VR1 and you get an 80% bonus exp gain for your ninth character.

I think this would be pretty sweet. Might make the Psijic Ambrosia drastically reduce in value though.

snackrat

An interesting idea, but in practice, even if you only did main quests you'd rapidly outpace them. And what about when you hit Vet? Does the bonus experience also speed up Vet ranks? And if so, what about CP?

Oh_Skrivva

honestly, i dont think it really takes that long to max out new toons. as long as you know good grind spots etc (everyone has their secret spots so this may be differnet for everyone) i maxed out a alt from level 1-v14 with xp pots in a little under 4 days. i will note that i pop xp pots like candy. as soon as the toon im on pot runs out i pop another (that is of course if im doing something that gives me xp and not dicking around in rawkhal or whatever). i will say that i have a large surplus of xp pots that gives me the ability to use them so candidly (have around 450 of them in bank with more mats in bank to make more if needed. when im at work i fish on my laptop so i can get roe and i have a buddy who only fishes in eso. for some reason thats what she enjoys doing and sends me the roe she gets for crazy cheap. also, when grinding toons. selling the loot from doing so will easily pay for the xp pots if your buying them from someone. youll save even more gold if you can craft it yourself or have a friend who will make them free of charge if you supply mats. plus with the decrease in amount of xp needed for vet ranks, it should be even easier. i havent leveled another alt yet with the new xp changes in IC yet though. also, i enjoy time spent leveling new alts. since im a pve'r and have done the end game content so often. its nice to change it up while messing around/leveling a new toon.i dont only grind mobs to max level. you have to do quest still to get to next zones to the other grind spots after you out leveled the area you were due to receiving less xp. it also gives me a chance to learn the character im leveling and their abilities while testing and theory crafting how to make my toon the most effective in their role (dps, tank or healer) currently have 6 v14s on my main account and 4 v14's on my second (second account was used by my son before he stopped playing it, he only maxed out one of those toons on that account)

purplederpy

snackrat wrote: »

An interesting idea, but in practice, even if you only did main quests you'd rapidly outpace them. And what about when you hit Vet? Does the bonus experience also speed up Vet ranks? And if so, what about CP?

Vet, yes. Champion Points no.

FireCowCommando

Yeah, this is obviously a good quality of life change, making more alts easier? Awesome.

Does it conflict with the crown stores exp potion sales? Thats why it will never be added.

Robbmrp

@ZOS isn't going to make any changes to experience gains for people with Alts. They already offer 10% XP Bonus from ESO Plus and the 50% boosters. Any change from those would decrease booster sales so it's highly doubtful they will do anything.

Ysne58

I would be opposed to this as well. I already outlevel the content. However, I do think our alts should also be earning CP right along with our Vet character.

Oh_Skrivva

@ysne58 gaining cp right at beginning of a new toon would be nice.would def help the new players catch up a little with the cp race that players who played longer have. i would def be fine with this. but giving anymore xp boost than what we have currently, i say no.

Leandor

Make it the other way round. Don't increase experience point gain, reduce the experience point required for veteran levels.

In my opinion, getting to 50 is actually quite fun, even the 6th time around. There may be no need since you already do a level an hour by just questing. What actively discourages me is the veteran grind alone - the step-up is just too steep.

If you want to promote twinking, use the proposed system of counting the number of vet chars and reduce the amount of experience points required by 10% for each - irrespective of whether the other chars are higher or lower level. Retain the experience gain rate and the cost for CP. That way, no one gets an advantage in regards to the champion system, all chars level faster and having a multitude of twinks does not confer bonuses other than being able to level them reasonably fast in parallel.

TheShadowScout

Meh. I am an moderate altaholic myself, with eight characters, all at least V1... and I firmly disagree with the very notion of fast-track to max level.

Want an alt at endgame level? Play that alt to endgame levels. It doesn't take -that- long... (unless of course you take it slow, stop to smell the flowers, then pick them for potionmaking like I do... )

Right now they even have an sort of hidden boost - reduced vet rank costs and increased vet quest rewards means you will get there all the faster. More then enough in my opinion!

Ysne58

Oh_Skrivva wrote: »

@ysne58 gaining cp right at beginning of a new toon would be nice.would def help the new players catch up a little with the cp race that players who played longer have. i would def be fine with this. but giving anymore xp boost than what we have currently, i say no.

That is exactly what I said. I outlevel content too fast as it is. I do not need faster exp gain. There are potions for that anyway. @Oh_Skrivva

Oh_Skrivva

With it being so easy to out level content. When you take Cp in account, starting a new toon with Cp distributed to whatever role or play style you plan on running makes running through content even easier. I can easily kill enemies 10 sometimes 20 levels above my level. I understand that leveling every alt to max level can be daunting and tedious. But shouldn't it take a while to max out a toon. When I first started playing since launch. It took me nearly a month to max my first toon. Now I can do it in under a week if I seriously buckled down and dedicated my time to do so. I understand that everyone's real life is different and not all people can commit a ton of time to play eso. If you have 1 or 2 maxed toons. Whats the rush to max out all alts anyway? Not like there is a ton of end game content. I've done end game so much, that when I level a new alt, I relish and enjoy the break from doing end game stuff/pledges or grinding Cp by mindless killing of trash mobs. But that's just my opinion. If you want to max out all alts. Go for it. But they shouldn't make it easier to do so. Gotta work for it. (I am not trying to sound like a ***, please don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. This is just my opinion) with that said, I myself strive to get all my alts to max level. But I am in no rush to do so. I'll get there eventually (only 2 more toons to go ) with the release of IC prob want level my last 2 alts anytime soon. My priority now is to farm the boss helms again as well as tel var stones and new crafting mats.

likelolwhat

Mmm. I've read this whole thread and I'm still on the fence about this. There are drawbacks and advantages to each proposal along with the current system.

Now, it's likely I'm only this undecided because I have retired my alts (for now at least) due to the collectibles changes. If I actually used alts for anything, I could feel different.

One thing though. I want grinding to be just as rewarding as questing, not moreso. That way no one feels incentive to pick one or the other for speed, just whether they want to exprience all the quests again or not.

AshTal

I would like it if they made the achievements account wide and allowed us to get CP points for level 1-50 to make playing alts more rewarding. Lv 1 - 50 are the most fun.

QuebraRegra

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Don't dare adding an xp boost to non vet characters. I love playing on the non vet campaign and don't want to reach v1 faster just because I allready have multiple high vet rank chars.

I like where yer head is at on this, but I'd prefer a "level lock" capability so I NEVER have to leave.

Master_Kas

Hey my name is Kas and I'm an altoholic.

Leveling a char through vet ranks for the 6-7th time is a PAIN.