Imperial City - Should I sub for it?

MaxBat

I ran a sub for this game for about a year, then cancelled. Generally, I liked it, I just moved on.

I have the Imperial edition, explorers pack. The IC looks cool, but is the Crown Store worth it? What else does a sub give players?

phairdon

What are the benefits of ESO Plus membership?

ESO Plus offers members exclusive in-game bonuses, a reoccurring allotment of crowns and access to all downloadable content (DLC) game packs for the duration of membership. Certain features, such as new areas and dungeons, will be released as DLC game packs, and players can either purchase them individually or have access to all DLC game packs by becoming an ESO Plus member.

30-day (PC/Mac) / One-Month (Xbox One/PlayStation 4) Membership:

1500 crowns for use in the in-game Crown Store at the start of each membership period (Players can use crowns to purchase cosmetic and convenience items such as pets, mounts, and costumes.)
Access to all downloadable content for the duration of membership
Exclusive character progression bonuses for the duration of membership
10% bonus to experience point gain
10% bonus to crafting research
10% bonus to crafting inspiration gain
10% bonus to gold acquisition

90-day (PC/Mac) Membership:

4500 crowns for use in the in-game Crown Store at the start of each membership period (Players can use crowns to purchase cosmetic and convenience items such as pets, mounts, and costumes.)
Access to all downloadable content for the duration of membership
Exclusive character progression bonuses for the duration of membership
10% bonus to experience point gain
10% bonus to crafting research
10% bonus to crafting inspiration gain
10% bonus to gold acquisition

180-day (PC/Mac) Membership:

9000 crowns for use in the in-game Crown Store at the start of each membership period (Players can use crowns to purchase cosmetic and convenience items such as pets, mounts, and costumes.)
Access to all downloadable content for the duration of membership
Exclusive character progression bonuses for the duration of membership
10% bonus to experience point gain
10% bonus to crafting research
10% bonus to crafting inspiration gain
10% bonus to gold acquisition

Farorin

Subbing won't hurt, and it honestly doesn't cost that much to sub for one month. There are no real downsides, and the upsides are the eso plus benefits, being able to try out the IC without necessarily buying it yet if you are unsure as to if you want it or not, and then having some crowns to go either towards IC if you liked it, or to go towards other crown store items that you may want.

MissBizz

Sub players will also get extra "bags" in the future to gold crafting mats outside of your current inventory.

DXCortEX

You'd basically pay 15$ to get 1500 crowns and free access to IC for a month, to see if you like it. Add in passive xp bonuses, i'd say it might be worth it. So it's like if you bought 1500 crowns straight from the store, but with some nice stuff thrown in.

thunderwell

It doesn't hurt to rent it before you buy it.
You'll keep the gear, items, etc that you obtained if you decide not to buy and let your sub lapse.

RizaHawkeye

MissBizz wrote: »

Sub players will also get extra "bags" in the future to gold crafting mats outside of your current inventory.

^^^ This is actually the deciding factor for me. I find some of the benefits listed by phairdon more of a bother than a benefit.

- The bonuses make you level faster but in the end you're overlevelled. Probably will be more useful now that I'm on the edge of Vet levels.

- Access to the DLC is nice but I was planning on buying it anyway (in case I cancel my sub) so meh.

- At first, the Crowns were kind of cool, but I quickly got what I wanted. They haven't put anything in lately that interested me, except maybe some costumes. As a result, I have about 5000 crowns I've never used.

But on the last ESO Live, they announced they would give out the crafting bags to ESO plus subbers. It seems they're only for crafting mats but it's enough to make me reconsider continuing subscribing.

Mighty_oakk

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Sub players will also get extra "bags" in the future to gold crafting mats outside of your current inventory.

^^^ This is actually the deciding factor for me. I find some of the benefits listed by phairdon more of a bother than a benefit.

- The bonuses make you level faster but in the end you're overlevelled. Probably will be more useful now that I'm on the edge of Vet levels.

- Access to the DLC is nice but I was planning on buying it anyway (in case I cancel my sub) so meh.

- At first, the Crowns were kind of cool, but I quickly got what I wanted. They haven't put anything in lately that interested me, except maybe some costumes. As a result, I have about 5000 crowns I've never used.

But on the last ESO Live, they announced they would give out the crafting bags to ESO plus subbers. It seems they're only for crafting mats but it's enough to make me reconsider continuing subscribing.

I imagine the eso+ benefits will continue to grow as playerbase shrinks

Gidorick

Sub for a month and if you want IC use the 1500 Crowns along with another crown pack to buy IC outright.

badda-boom

Lucio

someone told me that they will release new dlc every three months , so for me they did not remove the subscription, but force people to keep it up , the 10% bonus exp / gold are too low and dlc not worth the money ! This is only my opinion i have eso plus but I do not know how long I will continue to pay for this when there are many other MMO's that offer more and better

Vil

wait and see what the Imperial city DLC costs. Imo it's far better buying the DLC and playing for free than subscribing, especially if it costs about the same

Molag_Crow

Make your own decisions.

Tandor

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Sub players will also get extra "bags" in the future to gold crafting mats outside of your current inventory.

^^^ This is actually the deciding factor for me. I find some of the benefits listed by phairdon more of a bother than a benefit.

- The bonuses make you level faster but in the end you're overlevelled. Probably will be more useful now that I'm on the edge of Vet levels.

- Access to the DLC is nice but I was planning on buying it anyway (in case I cancel my sub) so meh.

- At first, the Crowns were kind of cool, but I quickly got what I wanted. They haven't put anything in lately that interested me, except maybe some costumes. As a result, I have about 5000 crowns I've never used.

But on the last ESO Live, they announced they would give out the crafting bags to ESO plus subbers. It seems they're only for crafting mats but it's enough to make me reconsider continuing subscribing.

I imagine the eso+ benefits will continue to grow as playerbase shrinks

I imagine as the game gets more things added through the evolutionary process of development that all MMOs enjoy each one will be heralded by some as an act of increased desperation. T'was ever thus !

MaxBat

Thanks to everyone for their insights. This was very helpful.

@CrowsDescend ... thanks. I fixed this for you.

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Make your own informed decisions.

Molag_Crow

@MaxBat

I subbed because I thought, why not? 10% extra XP, gold, inspiration, access to DLC and about... 2500(?) or 3000 crowns through the month, too! though I am still confused about that, because straight as I sub, I get the 1500, then another umm.. 1500 somewhere in between, I think...

I've already read the F&Q on subscribing, yet it just says you'll get the whole bunch as you sub, but I don't, unless that whole bunch is just 1500 and I'm being given magical amounts halfway through the month.

BigM

Personally I would hold off for a couple of days and see what type problems leap up tomorrow. It will shock me if you don't run into any major bugs when patch goes live.

Vatter

Honestly I would wait until feedback hits the forums tomorrow.

I have a feeling that IC is going to be so lagged out from all the AOE spamming zergs that you might not even be able to play it.

I'd also like to see if ZOS even fixed some of the exploits running rampant in cyrodiil on live. i.e., overload bar, camo hunter proc, dawn breaker of smiting dot, mist form reduction, surprise strike through walls, terrain clipping, streaking across IC moat. armor penetration, multiple mundus stones, etc etc

just because they say its fixed doesn't mean it actually is. mac memory leak or toppling charge perma root anyone?
We saw "fixes" to those problems at least 4 times. I remember once they actually said that it was now impossible to get stuck using toppling charge lol.

Avenias

No. Also thanks for wasting 1yr worth of sub.

Molag_Crow

Just don't forget that It all comes down to personal pref. You don't have to listen to others. You don't have to read the forums and wait for personal reviews of why this and that does not work, or benefit them, etc. If you depend on other people's opinions before making a decision, then it will just limit your experience on a whole, because it's about experimenting and finding out what works for you, and what doesn't.

People seem to forget this simple perceptive-process.

MrGrimey

How did you sub for a whole year and not have any crowns left to buy the dlc?

Vatter

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Just don't forget that It all comes down to personal pref. You don't have to listen to others. You don't have to read the forums and wait for personal reviews of why this and that does not work, or benefit them, etc. If you depend on other people's opinions before making a decision, then it will just limit your experience on a whole, because it's about experimenting and finding out what works for you, and what doesn't.

People seem to forget this simple perceptive-process.

Keep in mind that @crowsdescend will in no way compensate you for the $15 you'll be out if you hate it. reviews and feedback exist for a reason.... to provide you with an educated decision.

Molag_Crow

Vatter wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Just don't forget that It all comes down to personal pref. You don't have to listen to others. You don't have to read the forums and wait for personal reviews of why this and that does not work, or benefit them, etc. If you depend on other people's opinions before making a decision, then it will just limit your experience on a whole, because it's about experimenting and finding out what works for you, and what doesn't.

People seem to forget this simple perceptive-process.

Keep in mind that @crowsdescend will in no way compensate you for the $15 you'll be out if you hate it. reviews and feedback exist for a reason.... to provide you with an educated decision.

Of course, but what is there to hate? it's content added onto a game you already play, so it's not like you're buying an OxiClean sponge that promises to absorb farts, or something.

I prefer to be a free-thinking individual, rather than just go on what other people say all the time.

Alucardo

Do you like to support games you play often and enjoy? Then go sub
Do you like the idea of permanent 10% exp boost, including crafting? Then sub
Would you like to receive free crowns each subscription renewal? Sub it
Do you feel OK with getting free DLC when it comes out, but losing it if you decide not to renew your subscription? Sub
Does all this talk about subs make you feel hungry? Go Subway

Messy1

Yes, do it so I can kill you and get your tel Var Stones . . .

Rodvic

I'm personally planning on buying the Imperial City DLC with crowns and then resubbing so I will always have access to the DLC. That's just me however.

Alucardo

Rodvic wrote: »

I'm personally planning on buying the Imperial City DLC with crowns and then resubbing so I will always have access to the DLC. That's just me however.

I understand your thought process there - I too like to have unlimited access to stuff, but why not just buy it afterwards if you decide to cancel your sub? For example, what if subbing gives better benefits down the track and you decide to keep it anyway?

trav2609rwb17_ESO

CrowsDescend wrote: »

@MaxBat

I subbed because I thought, why not? 10% extra XP, gold, inspiration, access to DLC and about... 2500(?) or 3000 crowns through the month, too! though I am still confused about that, because straight as I sub, I get the 1500, then another umm.. 1500 somewhere in between, I think...

I've already read the F&Q on subscribing, yet it just says you'll get the whole bunch as you sub, but I don't, unless that whole bunch is just 1500 and I'm being given magical amounts halfway through the month.

Hi @CrowsDescend you get all your crowns once off at beginning of each membership period - ie 1500 if pay sub month, 4500 is quarterly and 9000 if half a year. There are no part payments in between unless you buy any extra crowns. Hope this helps.

Molag_Crow

trav2609rwb17_ESO wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

@MaxBat

I subbed because I thought, why not? 10% extra XP, gold, inspiration, access to DLC and about... 2500(?) or 3000 crowns through the month, too! though I am still confused about that, because straight as I sub, I get the 1500, then another umm.. 1500 somewhere in between, I think...

I've already read the F&Q on subscribing, yet it just says you'll get the whole bunch as you sub, but I don't, unless that whole bunch is just 1500 and I'm being given magical amounts halfway through the month.

Hi @CrowsDescend you get all your crowns once off at beginning of each membership period - ie 1500 if pay sub month, 4500 is quarterly and 9000 if half a year. There are no part payments in between unless you buy any extra crowns. Hope this helps.

Thanks @trav2609rwb17_ESO

Quarterly yeah? I guess that might explain it then, well.. I've been subbed for only 2 months, so I don't know about that but are you saying that when I reach quarter of a year with my continued subs, I'll get 4500 crowns as soon as I sub again? or do you mean as in total, from day 1 of subbing...

trav2609rwb17_ESO

Thanks @trav2609rwb17_ESO

Quarterly yeah? I guess that might explain it then, well.. I've been subbed for only 2 months, so I don't know about that but are you saying that when I reach quarter of a year with my continued subs, I'll get 4500 crowns as soon as I sub again? or do you mean as in total, from day 1 of subbing...
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@CrowsDescend - basically you get your crowns when ever you pay for you subs. So depends on how you decided to pay for your membership - if paying monthly you will get your 1500 crowns every month. If paying for 90 days at a time then would get 4500 etc. If you have recurring payments you get the crowns just after the each payment goes off.

Molag_Crow

@trav2609rwb17_ESO Oooooh, I got confused, yeah.. thanks.

Also just noticed this, so I guess console players can only sub for 30 days.

ESO Plus is an optional premium membership offered to players upon the launch of The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited. ESO Plus memberships are offered in 30-, 90-, and 180-day durations on PC/Mac and as a one-month membership on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

Sharee

Basically the choice comes down to

1, if you buy dlc with crowns, it will be $5 cheaper, but you are buying a cat in a bag. If you don't like it, you're stuck with it.

2, if you instead sub for 2 months, you will get to play it for 2 months, and after that, you can decide whether you want to spend the crowns(which you got for free with the sub) on IC or save them for orsinium.

If you are sure you will like IC, got with 1, if you aren't, go with 2.