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Account wide mount training
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Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mount upgrades should be character specific, not account wide.
They didn't do it because people complained, they did it because they wanted to sell crown store mounts and people would start complaining if their $25 flaming pony moved like a snail for the first month.SuraklinPrime wrote: »If you were upgrading your mount, I would be all for a concept where you upgrade your mount and that mount is the same across all your characters. Then, if you use a different mount, their skills are different.
Which is almost how it was from the start. Each mount had to be trained (fed) separately, but it was still character specific
It was and then we had a year of people complaining that that was too hard so ZOS capitulated and made it so you only have to do it once per toon and can have all 3 skills maxed at once instead of having to train multiple horses and swap between them depending on which bonus you needed.
Naturally cue more moans about how even this is too hard... still think some players won't be happy until they supply an 'I Win!' Scroll for 1 crown...0 -
usrevenge✭✭✭I would be more inclined to pay for a mount upgrade that was account wide.I miss read, the mount should be account wide through training which is what i meant.
you shouldn't have to pay. the crown store mount training should be account wide as well IMO. it takes months to max out a mount, if you decide you want an alt you have to do it again??? that's dumb, make the person pay the gold but NOT wait the time imo.0 -
Kaitona✭✭✭I would be more inclined to pay for a mount upgrade that was account wide.I miss read, the mount should be account wide through training which is what i meant.
you shouldn't have to pay. the crown store mount training should be account wide as well IMO. it takes months to max out a mount, if you decide you want an alt you have to do it again??? that's dumb, make the person pay the gold but NOT wait the time imo.
It's OK, I think a lot of people have misread the OP and what the thread was all about. At least that's the vibe I get from reading their replies. Some people are still talking about how this should come with ESO Plus membership.
Once again, its a thread for people who would have paid for the training with real money in the cash shop - but didn't because it wasn't account wide.
ZOS would make more money by selling this for your account than per character on your account. No one would buy it multiple times for their account. Once is bad enough...Edited by Kaitona on August 29, 2015 1:37PMYou go on these Internet blogs and people say the meanest things. - Hayden Panettiere0 -
CaptainObvious✭✭✭✭A fool and their money are soon parted is what they are going for.Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.1
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Violynne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mount upgrades should be character specific, not account wide.I voted to keep the training character specific, though I wouldn't care either way.
I enjoy starting a character from scratch. While I did cheat and use some gold from my previous character to buy a few backpacks, this was a necessity since I'm now doing provisioning and there are a ton of ingredients.
Everything else is "What other character?"
Call me old fashioned, but I don't want everything on Day 1. I want my character to earn everything it builds.1 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I would be more inclined to pay for a mount upgrade that was account wide.There is no reason to not have the horse be account wide.
Sorry if you have already trained multiple horses, but it is better for the game if everyone can make alts without a 60+ day waiting period on being able to have fun in cyrodiil and trials.Edited by Personofsecrets on August 29, 2015 2:53PMRest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
CaptainObvious✭✭✭✭The OP mis-created the poll.
The OP meant riding skill.
Mounts are shared account wide.
Riding skill is on a per character basis.
The OP wants the Crown Store Riding lessons to be account wide effectively. Unsure if the OP also intends for the regular path to be account wide as well.
The OP figures that if riding skill were account-wide, then people would be more inclined to purchase riding lessons for real $.Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.0 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mount upgrades should be character specific, not account wide.What about just being able to move a mount you've purchased from the Crown Store from one char to another?
We already have that. Just go into "collections" and enable it for that other character.
Heck you can have one mount enabled on all eight characters if you really want.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mount upgrades should be character specific, not account wide.Personofsecrets wrote: »it is better for the game if everyone can make alts without a 60+ day waiting period on being able to have fun in cyrodiil and trials.
It's worse for the game. This would be just like the plethora of CP in non-vet Cyrodiil.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭Mount upgrades should be character specific, not account wide.Because teh NonVet PvP is soooo balanced right now.... Mai cave. >:30 -
I would be more inclined to pay for a mount upgrade that was account wide.Don't get me wrong I think games are more fun when its not super easy, but if my imperial steed can be ridden by any of my characters then why they can't they share the same size saddlebags, and endurance. It's a pain having to log on to each one for the training, especially when you get imprisoned by an extra long loading screen.0 -
Blackhorne✭✭✭✭Mount upgrades should be character specific, not account wide.Lightninvash wrote: »I think more would sell if it were the case but then again more potential profit from individual id like it if I could buy them with my crowns from eso+ and go account wide but I do not see it happening ever for profit reasons.
No, few to none would sell.
It's not very painful to upgrade your riding skill on your main character by paying 250g per day. So that's what most people do initially. They don't bother with the crown store upgrades (beyond maybe 1 or 2 packs to get a head start.)
Then they decide to roll an alt. If riding skill is account-wide, there's nothing to buy. But if it's character-specific, then there's a pain point -- they have to take the slow route, or pay through the crown store.
The same is true with bag space, which is why smart altoholics put their money into bank space before bag space -- sure it's twice as much for each 10-slot upgrade, but it can be shared and used to transfer between 8 characters, which is way more than 2x the benefit.
The in-game purchase model depends on these pain points (even if the pain just the pain of your character not looking the way you want it to.)
Now, if you say that in-game riding lessons are not account-wide, but crown-store ones are, you're going to alienate a lot of players, plus, you've still reduced the number of crown store items you'll sell to the non-alienated players. There's only one way that account-wide riding skill training would make economic sense in this model, so let's ask the real question:
Would you pay 8 times as much for crown store riding lessons if they were applied to all of your characters?
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Kaitona✭✭✭I would be more inclined to pay for a mount upgrade that was account wide.CaptainObvious wrote: »The OP mis-created the poll.
The OP meant riding skill.
Mounts are shared account wide.
Riding skill is on a per character basis.
The OP wants the Crown Store Riding lessons to be account wide effectively. Unsure if the OP also intends for the regular path to be account wide as well.
The OP figures that if riding skill were account-wide, then people would be more inclined to purchase riding lessons for real $.
+1 - you get it. I thought the thread was pretty straight forward but I forgot to account for the lowest common denominator - which apparently captures a fair share of the ESO player base...
You go on these Internet blogs and people say the meanest things. - Hayden Panettiere0 -
BaconMagic✭✭✭I would be more inclined to pay for a mount upgrade that was account wide.I would happily pay for mount training packs RIGHT NOW if it were ten ranks per character per pack. This doesn't seem hard, however people buy it anyway so why would they switch. More money for them.0