The problem with lore

Azalin76

The name of the game is the biggest problem with keeping proper lore. Elder scrolls allow the readers to travel through time and see the past and the future. By doing that anyone in tamriel has the opportunity to change the time line of the current lore and ultimately change the past or future. People keep asking for dragons in the game but everyone says no it can't happen because of the lore. Well what would happen if a dragon from the skyrim timeline saw what was happening and used an elder scroll to travel back in time with a few others?

The other possibility is of course oblivion pocket planes. Who is to say that there are no dragons hiding in pocket planes just waiting for a good time to pop out and wreak havok? Like say during a time when tamriel is in a world war and divided with no emperor to bind the people together.

This is all just my opinion and a theory but it sounds plausible to me.

BuggeX

Not all Creatures are able to read a elder scroll.
Elder Dragons, like Alduin, does not Need the power of a elder scroll

starkerealm

Traveling through time is generally pretty rare. At least in the setting as a whole. Certainly not to the extent of dropping by and changing events for their benefit.

Also, as BuggeX pointed out, actually getting your hands on a scroll and then having the opportunity to read one is a fairly difficult task. (Cyrodiil's use of the Scrolls as CTF tokens not withstanding).

Sithisvoid

I always wondered why ppl complained about lore and accuracy when the scrolls mention the "infinite possibilities and alternate realities" over and over again. Reading comprehension is a dying talent. Also if scrolls are so rare why so many blind moth priests running around?

Defilted

Sithisvoid wrote: »

I always wondered why ppl complained about lore and accuracy when the scrolls mention the "infinite possibilities and alternate realities" over and over again. Reading comprehension is a dying talent. Also if scrolls are so rare why so many blind moth priests running around?

In ESO this is mentioned a few times in the main story. Of course mentioned in all the other games as well and the lore series by Shoddycast.

starkerealm

Sithisvoid wrote: »

I always wondered why ppl complained about lore and accuracy when the scrolls mention the "infinite possibilities and alternate realities" over and over again. Reading comprehension is a dying talent. Also if scrolls are so rare why so many blind moth priests running around?

It's not that the scrolls are rare in the sense of quantity, but rare in the sense of availability. There's quite a few scrolls out there, but keeping track of them is... "problematic." Most stay under lock and key, however.

mrskinskull

Sithisvoid wrote: »

I always wondered why ppl complained about lore and accuracy when the scrolls mention the "infinite possibilities and alternate realities" over and over again. Reading comprehension is a dying talent. Also if scrolls are so rare why so many blind moth priests running around?

I think the op is saying that under the elder scrolls lore , really anything is possible.

Rev Rielle

In game we've already had one example of a man coming from their past:

Titus Valerius in Craglorn.

So whilst I don't think the developers will make anything huge out of peoples coming from the past/future in future content, the precedent is already there.

This, and the lore you state, certainly does leave the door open to things/realms/entities, for example dragons, appearing in the game's future. But really we have 'dragons' in-game now in all but name; the daedric titans.

Gidorick

Here's my two pence:

The infinite possibilities may be true, but the story line that we know as "Elder Scrolls" is a very closely bound group of tendrils on the forever branching timeline. There may be a timeline where the Dwemer still exist, but not in the Elder Scrolls timeline. There may be a time where Cyrodiil is still a jungle, but not in the Elder Scrolls timeline. There may be a timeline where the Daedra rule all of Tamriel and have Nords and Dunmer as their pets, but not in the Elder Scrolls timeline.

The Elder Scrolls series is one cohesive timeline. Even though lore is largely perspective reliant, the events which lore speaks of actually did happen in the Elder Scrolls timeline even if the different accounts of what happened are in conflict with one another.

So while yes, the Elder Scrolls do speak of infinite realities and infinite possibilities the timeline of the Elder Scrolls video games are not. You could even think of the Elder Scrolls infinite possibilities as being a way to reconcile our world with theirs. The Elder Scrolls universe is one reality. Our universe is another reality. The Lord of the Rings universe is yet another reality. Even World of Warcraft could be considered a reality existing in the same multiverse as The Elder Scrolls.

Just because the possibilities of existence are infinite doesn't mean the possibilities of the Elder Scrolls are. It would be lore breaking to have interstellar starships in the Elder Scrolls. It would be lore breaking to have firearms in The Elder Scroll. It would be lore breaking to have William Shatner arrive and lead a mercenary group to overtake Cyrodiil to become emperor, no matter how awesome it would be...

By lore breaking, we mean that would go against the established culture, technology, rules of nature, history, and general expectations of what makes this a game set in the Elder Scrolls universe instead of a game being set in the Jak and Daxter universe.

Sure ZOS could use the infinite possibilities explanation to add underground survival bunkers all around Tamriel and then have one of the races figure out nuclear technology to the point of creating atomic bombs then setting them off destroying the world... but we all know what reality that would be.

Now with all that being said, I do think there's room in eso for dragons. Just not so many that we're literally riding around on them. Of course my view of the current Elder Scrolls timeline doesn't include fire horses or ice horses, so what the hell do I know?

icontested

BuggeX wrote: »

Not all Creatures are able to read a elder scroll.
Elder Dragons, like Alduin, does not Need the power of a elder scroll

I'm a creature and I can't read. His quoted post is true

mrskinskull

icontested wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

Not all Creatures are able to read a elder scroll.
Elder Dragons, like Alduin, does not Need the power of a elder scroll

I'm a creature and I can't read. His quoted post is true

Huh?