My lvl 47 PvE Templar sucks

Prof_Bawbag

Something I've noticed since around lvl 40 is how much my character sucks against bosses of my lvl or slightly higher. Due to reflective light, I have little issues against mobs, but when I need to pack a punch 1 on 1 against a hp sponge, the shortcomings of my build become obvious. I'm a dumner using a full magic build.

Bar 1
Reflective Light
Puncturing Sweep
Inner Light
Ritual Rebirth
Structured Entropy
Practiced Incantation

Bar2
Reflective Light
Rapid maneuver
Ritual of Rebirth
Restoring Aura
Solar Barrage
Solar Disturbance

Double Destro

I have to admit, my 2nd bar isn't utilised much and gets overlooked more often than not. I'm running full light gear, with slotted reduced costs and magic increase. I'm also using PI as my ultimate because I find Ritual of Rebirth takes too long to trigger when I'm doing group dungeons. Whilst I have been bitten from a vampire, I have not yet become a vampire, so that is an extra option to take into account. It's there if it would make the build better.

Feel free to laugh at my build, but I would greatly appreciate constructive input too.

Zsymon

Slot a healing staff and use Quick Siphon on boss monsters. Every strike of your Puncturing Sweep will trigger the heal (4 times), on top of the heal from Sweep itself, plus each heal can crit. It's always been enough to stay at max health for the entire fight, in my experience, against any type of boss.

Same if you face like 20 trash monsters, just apply Quick Siphon to one of them, cast Empowering Sweep and spam Puncturing Sweep, you'll never get low on health and everything drops dead quick.

I suggest using Empowering Sweep on your melee bar, you can cast it almost every fight and it'll stop you from getting one shot if several monsters happen to hit you at the same time. Solar Disturbance is for group dungeons, not for solo, and you should never need Practiced Incantation for any type of content.

A suggestion for a build would be:

1st weapon: dual wield with Punc Sweep, Entropy, Inner Light, Explosive Charge, Rune Focus.
2nd weapon: healing staff with Quick Siphon, Entropy, Inner Light and two of your choice.

You need Entropy and Inner Light on both bars because otherwise you lose the bonuses when you switch weapons. Those 8% extra max health will help a lot.

You'd use dual wield on your Puncturing Sweep bar for the greatly increased spell damage it offers. You don't need Reflective Light for any reason, it's just a support skill for healers that want to do some extra damage. Just cast Quick Siphon from afar, charge into the enemies with Explosive Charge and spam Punc Sweep. If the enemies are tough, cast Empowering Sweep as well.

Prof_Bawbag

@Zsymon Very, very much appreciated. Thanks!

Jumper45

I dont see dark flare on your bars which is your bread and butter templar attack other then radiant oppression for execute.

Single target dark flare till 30% then switch to radiant oppression to execute the target. Flare shots will give you Empower so the damage is more then the tooltip says. It is not uncommon to do 9-10k a dark flare if geared correctly.

For Magicka DPS ( short of using destro abilities) Id use Reflective light for your aoe ( works well for an aoe spammable. 3 targets but it also does dot so if you switch the aoe to other targets your old ones are still taking damage. YOU DO NOT NEED Inner Light as a dps with reflective. It only offers you Max Magicka but otherwise a wasted slot which you cant afford.

Use Dual Swords with a spell Damage set 2 bonus and crit value. Keep resto staff on backup bar to get mana back when you empty out.
Slot Entropy for the spell power buff. Since youre magicka there is no reason you cant slot breath of life to heal yourself/others. If youre mostly solo Lingering ritual works just fine as well.

Your dps rotation for spells would be Reflective ( for buff and dot) Then Entropy for Dot and buff then dark flare till you can use radiant Opression. Keeping rotating the dots in to keep them up. You'll do 10k DPS quite easly with those 3 running. You can expand on it from there. You can go destro staff and slot Pulsar for a more then 3 target aoe if you feel the need to also reduces trashs max hp. or the Fire one for more dps. You can go flame damage boost for these spells via CPs or Racial.

These numbers dont really include any kind of dps set bonuses etc. These are the basic numbers for a VR 1 in VR1 gear. So If you were to add spell damage sets the numbers will rise.

Solar Ulti works well and offers damage reduce for anyone in it. Warhorn is also pretty handy. Boosts everyones Max stats thus giving more damage etc. Sturdy lasts around 36 seconds? which should be time to refill the ulti before next warhorn or go with the crit one to boost DPS by quite alot for the group.

@Zsymon Sorry. I Cannot agree with other peoples builds if they dont look at every angle one offers. Saying You dont need reflective for any reason and that its just a support skill for healers makes me cringe lol More Importantly when it negates the need for inner light and its fire based damage. ( Actual attack does more damage then max magicka is going to offer and only needs to be casted every so often) And the lack of radiant oppression also makes me cringe. Your build looks like its aimed at large groups of mobs or trash. I believe hes looking for a 1v1 rotation as reflective pretty much takes care of groups of trash.

Zsymon

The OP did not ask for a trial build though.

Dark Flare and Reflective Light are completely useless against bosses when playing solo, which is what the OP had asked about. If he's having trouble beating bosses with just Puncturing Sweep, he's certainly not going to beat them with Dark Flare, since that offers no healing or defense at all.

If you try spamming Dark Flare solo against a triple world boss or a public dungeon boss, they just wreck you. The whole point of Puncturing Sweep + Quick Siphon is to outheal the damage they do to you, while doing a lot of damage at the same time. When you're casting Dark Flare you're getting no healing at all, and the boss will just kill you. Casting Breath of Life every two Flares to prevent dying, is nowhere near as cost effective and you'll do less damage.

I solo'd all content including most of Craglorn (plus Delves) with the setup I described (minus the quests you need others for), against many monsters or against powerful bosses, or a combination, it always works. It may not be 100% optimal in Trials, but that's not what the OP asked about.

Prof_Bawbag

My problem with puncturing sweep and fighting large hp sponges solo is my magic depletes and that's using mana potions (that are for my level, I haven't touched alchemy or food yet, so no idea if things could be drastically improved upon). I'm usually left fighting with a destruction staff for parts of the fight waiting for more mana.

Like i said, mobs aren't an issue, just the tougher bosses that have larger hp pools than most other bosses. Most of delve/cave bosses go down without issue.

Jumper45

I still dont see why you think reflective is useless. It does instant damage and dots the monster(s), is boosted by fire damage passives and gives the same crit buff as inner light and why wouldnt he be able to do it with dark flare. I did. Wasnt hard at all. Your accomplishments have been had by many others. Entropy and reflect dots tick between flares when you cast a heal. Not to mention quick siphon works for anyone with a aoe. pop 3-4 monsters and spam any sort of aoe and it works just the same way. Reflective. Pulsar. I'm certain puncturing sweep isnt the go to for that. More Importantly when you use the dot version and it ticks a dot on 6+ monsters ontop of instant damage vs just instant damage which will net you more dps. Also boosted by fire CPs,racials. As far as a single monster 1v1 if youre telling me siphon + sweep is going to out heal an actual heal youre batty I doubt you could be doing 6k+ in that 1 second. If doing dps between that 1second GCD is a concern. There are plenty of dots ticking to cover any of that during a heal. Not to mention Dark Flare benefits from channeled spells. Quite a few sets offer something for channeling. Cyrodiils Light for example gives you 25% damage reduce to you while casting dark flare. Im not sure how you would get merked. Also if you want to go that far down the road . flare can get up to 20k. With a cast time of 2 thats 10k dps off the 1 cast. Sweep would be less or on par. ( less i think because of fire damage boosters)

Also long as youre rotating Reflective for crit buff. Entropy for Spell power buff and flare for Empower buff You will be putting out very high amounts of damage. Do i even need to bring up the soulshine set? Increased spell power for channeling a spell ( thus dark flare and radiant oppression are boosted by quite a bit and not to mention Lingering Ritual) But thats neither here or there. Hes only level 40 and while sweep and siphon does heal you while doing damage at the same time it does not overshadow casting a heal spell between dots/nukes. You arnt doing more damage. its just convient. Dare he use Radiant Glory! His mind would explode and shatter your dreams of a world where everyone uses Punct Sweep. Radiant Glory : New Effect:
Heals player based on the damage done. I Wont go into how having +25% fire damage ontop of spell damage and empower and crit would change the amount healed by it to something in the neighborhood of 13k-30k. Healing and damage. Keep in mind to reach the 30k the target would need to be low health where the spell would then do +300% damage done. But on a good note. Atleast where all templars here. Its always fun seeing templars being the top damage/healing on charts.

Lightninvash

l2p Templar rocks

Jumper45

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

My problem with puncturing sweep and fighting large hp sponges solo is my magic depletes and that's using mana potions (that are for my level, I haven't touched alchemy or food yet, so no idea if things could be drastically improved upon). I'm usually left fighting with a destruction staff for parts of the fight waiting for more mana.

Like i said, mobs aren't an issue, just the tougher bosses that have larger hp pools than most other bosses. Most of delve/cave bosses go down without issue.

Sadly Magicka is always an issue for templars. I would eat magicka recovery food and always have a resto staff on slot 1 or 2 to get magicka back. Dont worry though. once you get to about 1200-1400 regen you rarely run out of magicka. Once you get higher it'll pan out to where you can take options here and there etc.Channeled Focus ability will give you magicka every 0.5 seconds for standing in it though. that should help. and beef up your armor etc. Not much room on a dps bar though for it. Slot it for 2nd bar and switch back. Heavy Resto attack with passives will give you quite a bit of magicka back.

Prof_Bawbag

Lightninvash wrote: »

l2p Templar rocks

I can see you're going to be a highly valued member of these forums.

That aside, I'm new to the game, the vast majority of the first run through on PvE is obviously leveled/designed as such to allow players to pretty much run whatever skills they wish too. Like i was. Now, though, the cracks are appearing and they're only going to get more noticeable as I progress. Anyhow, with this being a section of the forums to seek advice from those players who know considerably more than i do, I thought i'd ask. I do apologise that the concept of "helping others" is lost on you. No biggie though.

Prof_Bawbag

Jumper45 wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

My problem with puncturing sweep and fighting large hp sponges solo is my magic depletes and that's using mana potions (that are for my level, I haven't touched alchemy or food yet, so no idea if things could be drastically improved upon). I'm usually left fighting with a destruction staff for parts of the fight waiting for more mana.

Like i said, mobs aren't an issue, just the tougher bosses that have larger hp pools than most other bosses. Most of delve/cave bosses go down without issue.

Sadly Magicka is always an issue for templars. I would eat magicka recovery food and always have a resto staff on slot 1 or 2 to get magicka back. Dont worry though. once you get to about 1200-1400 regen you rarely run out of magicka. Once you get higher it'll pan out to where you can take options here and there etc.Channeled Focus ability will give you magicka every 0.5 seconds for standing in it though. that should help. and beef up your armor etc. Not much room on a dps bar though for it. Slot it for 2nd bar and switch back. Heavy Resto attack with passives will give you quite a bit of magicka back.

Thanks again, mate. All this is thoroughly appreciated. I'll begin looking at the provisioning and alchemy crafts. Need to start making a dent in them anyway.

Jumper45

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

l2p Templar rocks

I can see you're going to be a highly valued member of these forums.

That aside, I'm new to the game, the vast majority of the first run through on PvE is obviously leveled as such to allow players to pretty much run whatever skills they wish too. Like i was. Now, though, the cracks are appearing and they're only going to get more noticeable as I progress. Anyhow, with this being a section of the forums to seek advice from those players who know considerably more than i do, I thought i'd ask. I do apologise that the concept of "helping others" is lost on you. No biggie though.

Sadly Once you reach VR1 more importantly VR6+ Yeah the whole idea of being whatever you want fades very very fast. Maybe they will fix it in the future. Healing in a full set of heavy? yeah right. Full heavy set 2 hander magic casting dunmer? Sure if you like tickling monsters. There are only a few niche situations where you can venture to that side of that game without hurting yourself. The problem being most weapon skills just suck vs class skills. So you never end up using them besides a few abilities that shine like Snipe.

Corpsage

For solo PvE here's my skill setup:

1st Bar: Structured Entropy, Puncturing Sweeps, Toppling Charge, Radiant Destruction, Repentance, Soul Assault (Soul Magic ult)
2nd Bar: Structured Entropy

Take the Atronach mundus, try to wear all "Divines" trait gear. In addition, on your jewelry enchant them to give you bonus regen on magicka. These are my best pieces of advice on the regen side other than rerolling Breton.

Lightninvash

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

l2p Templar rocks

I can see you're going to be a highly valued member of these forums.

That aside, I'm new to the game, the vast majority of the first run through on PvE is obviously leveled/designed as such to allow players to pretty much run whatever skills they wish too. Like i was. Now, though, the cracks are appearing and they're only going to get more noticeable as I progress. Anyhow, with this being a section of the forums to seek advice from those players who know considerably more than i do, I thought i'd ask. I do apologise that the concept of "helping others" is lost on you. No biggie though.

if you want help ask don't make bold assumptions that a class sucks just because you have not learned how to play the class. sure Templar is hard but its also very easy because you have a dedicated heal skill line that's able to use with any weapon unlike the restoration staff skills only being able to be of use with a resto staff. its all about learning what works for you getting an idea of what others is good but if you copy paste someone else's build its not going to work, minus some cases. because it would be their build not yours. your build should be unique to you as your chars looks and name. your problem also is you have mostly heals yes a good thing however perma healing on a boss isn't gna help use your Puncturing Sweep on the boss with a combination of heals and ect. I wear vr 1 gear take on vr9 bosses and mobs and do just fine even under geared. also get Radiant Destruction it helps a lot. blazing shield is also a must it is the morph of sun shield. what I do is blazing shield puncturing sweep and radiant destruction. I morphed my radiant destruction to heal me instead of more damage so I can be healing and doing single target damage. learn the class before saying it sucks. how about that for help.

Prof_Bawbag

Lightninvash wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

l2p Templar rocks

I can see you're going to be a highly valued member of these forums.

That aside, I'm new to the game, the vast majority of the first run through on PvE is obviously leveled/designed as such to allow players to pretty much run whatever skills they wish too. Like i was. Now, though, the cracks are appearing and they're only going to get more noticeable as I progress. Anyhow, with this being a section of the forums to seek advice from those players who know considerably more than i do, I thought i'd ask. I do apologise that the concept of "helping others" is lost on you. No biggie though.

if you want help ask don't make bold assumptions that a class sucks just because you have not learned how to play the class. sure Templar is hard but its also very easy because you have a dedicated heal skill line that's able to use with any weapon unlike the restoration staff skills only being able to be of use with a resto staff. its all about learning what works for you getting an idea of what others is good but if you copy paste someone else's build its not going to work, minus some cases. because it would be their build not yours. your build should be unique to you as your chars looks and name. your problem also is you have mostly heals yes a good thing however perma healing on a boss isn't gna help use your Puncturing Sweep on the boss with a combination of heals and ect. I wear vr 1 gear take on vr9 bosses and mobs and do just fine even under geared. also get Radiant Destruction it helps a lot. blazing shield is also a must it is the morph of sun shield. what I do is blazing shield puncturing sweep and radiant destruction. I morphed my radiant destruction to heal me instead of more damage so I can be healing and doing single target damage. learn the class before saying it sucks. how about that for help.

What are you even on about? Where was my bold statement that the class sucked?

It's there in black and white "My lvl 47 PvE Templer sucks" MY TEMPLER SUCKS. Not yours, mine.

Lightninvash

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

l2p Templar rocks

I can see you're going to be a highly valued member of these forums.

That aside, I'm new to the game, the vast majority of the first run through on PvE is obviously leveled/designed as such to allow players to pretty much run whatever skills they wish too. Like i was. Now, though, the cracks are appearing and they're only going to get more noticeable as I progress. Anyhow, with this being a section of the forums to seek advice from those players who know considerably more than i do, I thought i'd ask. I do apologise that the concept of "helping others" is lost on you. No biggie though.

if you want help ask don't make bold assumptions that a class sucks just because you have not learned how to play the class. sure Templar is hard but its also very easy because you have a dedicated heal skill line that's able to use with any weapon unlike the restoration staff skills only being able to be of use with a resto staff. its all about learning what works for you getting an idea of what others is good but if you copy paste someone else's build its not going to work, minus some cases. because it would be their build not yours. your build should be unique to you as your chars looks and name. your problem also is you have mostly heals yes a good thing however perma healing on a boss isn't gna help use your Puncturing Sweep on the boss with a combination of heals and ect. I wear vr 1 gear take on vr9 bosses and mobs and do just fine even under geared. also get Radiant Destruction it helps a lot. blazing shield is also a must it is the morph of sun shield. what I do is blazing shield puncturing sweep and radiant destruction. I morphed my radiant destruction to heal me instead of more damage so I can be healing and doing single target damage. learn the class before saying it sucks. how about that for help.

What are you even on about? Where was my bold statement that the class sucked?

It's there in black and white "My lvl 47 PvE Templer sucks" MY TEMPLER SUCKS. Not yours, mine. I didn't bother reading the rest as you obviously have difficulty comprehending things. If you're going enter into a conversation, any conversation, at least read what's been written. I'm done responding to you, so anything else you write will be a wasted effort.

l2p

nickg420

SHOTS FIRED!!!

danno8

I'll add:

1. Get magicka reduction on your jewelry
2. Use Channeled Focus
3. Use magicka regeneration drinks
4. Atronach Mundus Stone

If you are not doing these 3 things already it will add a huge amount of sustain (Probably around 600-700 magicka regen at your level) when you are taking on world bosses.

Run in, cast Purifying Ritual, Channeled Focus and stand there using Puncturing Sweep. Stay out of red, interrupt channels and block big hits. This should be enough to allow you to solo all but a couple world bosses.

Lightninvash

nickg420 wrote: »

SHOTS FIRED!!!

not exactly lol

danno8

Corpsage wrote: »

In addition, on your jewelry enchant them to give you bonus regen on magicka. These are my best pieces of advice on the regen side other than rerolling Breton.

Right now reduction on jewelry is far better than regeneration. This will change in 2.1 when regeneration is getting a nearly 2.5x increase over current values. But reduction may still be better, even then.

Lightninvash

danno8 wrote: »

Corpsage wrote: »

In addition, on your jewelry enchant them to give you bonus regen on magicka. These are my best pieces of advice on the regen side other than rerolling Breton.

Right now reduction on jewelry is far better than regeneration. This will change in 2.1 when regeneration is getting a nearly 2.5x increase over current values. But reduction may still be better, even then.

but a mixture is also a good idea seeing as you can use champ points for cost reduction as well

Francescolg

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

My problem with puncturing sweep and fighting large hp sponges solo is my magic depletes and that's using mana potions (that are for my level, I haven't touched alchemy or food yet,

You need the atronach mundus stone for a 2xx more gratis magicka regen. This mundus stone will allow you to spam punturing sweep. To be sincere, try to make your build as easy as possible, as spamming puncturing sweep alone, is enough.
If you meet caster bosses, use your anti-caster debuff. If you want it even easier, use "immovability"! It is not the best way to play, but simply keeping up immovability (heavy armor skill) + blazing shield (@more then 20k hp), will bring you through most of the situations. Blazing Shield shall be your main self-heal!

You will pass the line to be a more experienced templar, as soon as you manage to survive longer and how to be sustainable. For solo play, aim to get much higher than 1k magicka regen. You do not need destruction staff! You need some HP to make your "one and only" Blazing Shield viable, etc. etc.! I'd even say, use "normal" pots, which raise HP, as this means a stronger blazing shielld!

People, who go for max spell-dmg, have low life and so-so magicka regeneration and they are literally fast food in pvp for every interrupt-spamming nuub, who manages to anti-cc & interrupt their lazy magicka templar skills. This is only my personal opinion after "intense" experiences after the last patch.

If you play in a group, most of the time, sure, you can spec for "max heal/dmg". But for solo play, have a look on abilities which increase sustainability and for anti-CC, as well as having enough HP!

Prof_Bawbag

Lightninvash wrote: »

nickg420 wrote: »

SHOTS FIRED!!!

not exactly lol

@Lightninvash

I've edited out my insult as it was a needless thing to add. The other advice you have given is appreciated.

Lightninvash

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

nickg420 wrote: »

SHOTS FIRED!!!

not exactly lol

@Lightninvash

I've edited out my insult as it was a needless thing to add. The other advice you have given is appreciated.

it happens now u know what I mean by learn to play its all about learning your char the way that suits you not so much an insult

danno8

Lightninvash wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Corpsage wrote: »

In addition, on your jewelry enchant them to give you bonus regen on magicka. These are my best pieces of advice on the regen side other than rerolling Breton.

Right now reduction on jewelry is far better than regeneration. This will change in 2.1 when regeneration is getting a nearly 2.5x increase over current values. But reduction may still be better, even then.

but a mixture is also a good idea seeing as you can use champ points for cost reduction as well

Right now the difference is so spectacular that reduction is better no matter how you cut it, with CP's or not. After 2.1 drops next week though you may be right.

Assuming you cast 1 spell per second with cost reduction enchant you save 200 per second. Regen enchant right now are 64 every 2 seconds. That means you would have to wait for 6.25 seconds to make the same amount of magicka back. CP's or not, it is just a better deal.

Besides I don't think the OP has many CP's at this point.

The difference is just way off. That is why in 2.1 they are bumping them up to something like 160 from 64.

Lightninvash

danno8 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Corpsage wrote: »

In addition, on your jewelry enchant them to give you bonus regen on magicka. These are my best pieces of advice on the regen side other than rerolling Breton.

Right now reduction on jewelry is far better than regeneration. This will change in 2.1 when regeneration is getting a nearly 2.5x increase over current values. But reduction may still be better, even then.

but a mixture is also a good idea seeing as you can use champ points for cost reduction as well

Right now the difference is so spectacular that reduction is better no matter how you cut it, with CP's or not. After 2.1 drops next week though you may be right.

Assuming you cast 1 spell per second with cost reduction enchant you save 200 per second. Regen enchant right now are 64 every 2 seconds. That means you would have to wait for 6.25 seconds to make the same amount of magicka back. CP's or not, it is just a better deal.

Besides I don't think the OP has many CP's at this point.

The difference is just way off. That is why in 2.1 they are bumping them up to something like 160 from 64.

true I can agree with your point I just like having both as a personal opinion to regen while reduced cost haha nakes up for the regen being lower for my build that is

Lord Xanhorn

Holy smokes...please stop listening to these dofuses that say use inner light. That spell is pointless. You get the exact same crit buff from reflective light and you don't get 5% more magicka BUT at the cost of 20% of you skills. Totally not worth it in any way whatsoever! So stop it now!

Here are spells that you would totally help you more than magelight.

Backlash/purifying light
Annulment/Harness Magicka (depending on the type of damage incoming)
Rune Focus or Circle of Protection
Elemental drain even

There are so many better options than Magelight in any scenario regarding PVE.

Slonekb05

http://youtu.be/kphuEsNhr9k
http://youtu.be/JoeRKOg8Cso

Here's few vids of my paladin build. Able to 2man all group dungeons so far. Should be able to tell build from watching, but feel free if you have any questions hope this helps. All heavy armor passives, and class and race passives.

Jumper45

Francescolg wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

My problem with puncturing sweep and fighting large hp sponges solo is my magic depletes and that's using mana potions (that are for my level, I haven't touched alchemy or food yet,

You need the atronach mundus stone for a 2xx more gratis magicka regen. This mundus stone will allow you to spam punturing sweep. To be sincere, try to make your build as easy as possible, as spamming puncturing sweep alone, is enough.
If you meet caster bosses, use your anti-caster debuff. If you want it even easier, use "immovability"! It is not the best way to play, but simply keeping up immovability (heavy armor skill) + blazing shield (@more then 20k hp), will bring you through most of the situations. Blazing Shield shall be your main self-heal!

You will pass the line to be a more experienced templar, as soon as you manage to survive longer and how to be sustainable. For solo play, aim to get much higher than 1k magicka regen. You do not need destruction staff! You need some HP to make your "one and only" Blazing Shield viable, etc. etc.! I'd even say, use "normal" pots, which raise HP, as this means a stronger blazing shielld!

People, who go for max spell-dmg, have low life and so-so magicka regeneration and they are literally fast food in pvp for every interrupt-spamming nuub, who manages to anti-cc & interrupt their lazy magicka templar skills. This is only my personal opinion after "intense" experiences after the last patch.

If you play in a group, most of the time, sure, you can spec for "max heal/dmg". But for solo play, have a look on abilities which increase sustainability and for anti-CC, as well as having enough HP!

Harness Magicka will cover the somewhat low hp ( 15-17k id wager on hp) Spell damage will increase the shield by quite a bit. This only speaks to spells though. For melee youre going to get it up the butt in pvp. but generally speaking they got to get to you first. so its a trade off. So pros and cons. i wouldnt say outright were fast food. Harness Magicka is the first skill from light armor so its rather easy to obtain. Without trying in pve the shield can get to around 7.5k at v1. Its reduced slightly in pvp but thats also a fairly non buffed up shield so it could be higher easly in pvp. That being said it does cover most things in pvp and pve. but like i said. If some arrows or swords come flying at you. Pucker up butter cup.

Trying to stick to templars but also goes the same for sorcs etc with wards. They get it better though. Spell power = Bigger Wards = More hp. Blazing shield does cover physical and has quite a fun aoe attached but in the same respect. does alot less absorb then the wards and is alot harder to chase then the other wards because if you fall too much into hp you cant do much else damage wise or even be able to blast through other peoples wards.

Zsymon

Jumper45 wrote: »

I still dont see why you think reflective is useless. It does instant damage and dots the monster(s), is boosted by fire damage passives and gives the same crit buff as inner light and why wouldnt he be able to do it with dark flare. I did. Wasnt hard at all. Your accomplishments have been had by many others. Entropy and reflect dots tick between flares when you cast a heal. Not to mention quick siphon works for anyone with a aoe. pop 3-4 monsters and spam any sort of aoe and it works just the same way. Reflective. Pulsar. I'm certain puncturing sweep isnt the go to for that. More Importantly when you use the dot version and it ticks a dot on 6+ monsters ontop of instant damage vs just instant damage which will net you more dps. Also boosted by fire CPs,racials. As far as a single monster 1v1 if youre telling me siphon + sweep is going to out heal an actual heal youre batty I doubt you could be doing 6k+ in that 1 second. If doing dps between that 1second GCD is a concern. There are plenty of dots ticking to cover any of that during a heal. Not to mention Dark Flare benefits from channeled spells. Quite a few sets offer something for channeling. Cyrodiils Light for example gives you 25% damage reduce to you while casting dark flare. Im not sure how you would get merked. Also if you want to go that far down the road . flare can get up to 20k. With a cast time of 2 thats 10k dps off the 1 cast. Sweep would be less or on par. ( less i think because of fire damage boosters)

Also long as youre rotating Reflective for crit buff. Entropy for Spell power buff and flare for Empower buff You will be putting out very high amounts of damage. Do i even need to bring up the soulshine set? Increased spell power for channeling a spell ( thus dark flare and radiant oppression are boosted by quite a bit and not to mention Lingering Ritual) But thats neither here or there. Hes only level 40 and while sweep and siphon does heal you while doing damage at the same time it does not overshadow casting a heal spell between dots/nukes. You arnt doing more damage. its just convient. Dare he use Radiant Glory! His mind would explode and shatter your dreams of a world where everyone uses Punct Sweep. Radiant Glory : New Effect:
Heals player based on the damage done. I Wont go into how having +25% fire damage ontop of spell damage and empower and crit would change the amount healed by it to something in the neighborhood of 13k-30k. Healing and damage. Keep in mind to reach the 30k the target would need to be low health where the spell would then do +300% damage done. But on a good note. Atleast where all templars here. Its always fun seeing templars being the top damage/healing on charts.

I'm not saying you're wrong generally speaking, but none of what you're suggesting applies to this particular person. If he can't beat bosses with his current setup, he's not going to beat them spamming Dark Flare or RD either, he'll just have even less survivability and die even faster. This is not a pissing content about who knows most about Templars, simple fact is if you cast Quick Siphon on a boss and spam Puncturing Sweep, you will outheal any damage that boss does, without having to cast any heals, and do damage at the same time, it is easy and foolproof, it always works for any content and is the most magicka efficient way to do said content.

He says he has problems running out of magicka, the advantage of my setup is that it heals and damages at the same time for a low cost, while your setup requires separate damage spells and healing spells, at far greater magicka cost. My setup costs much less magicka, is much easier to execute and it will still outheal any damage any boss can do. I am not the only one using this setup either.

Are there other ways to beat the content, of course there are other ways, questing isn't hard, but my way is by far the easiest and simplest, since not only does it work for all content, it also requires only a minimal amount of skills. It is just really good for unexperienced players.

Prof_Bawbag

Paid for a respec and I've implemented most of the changes that were suggested in here. Took my Templar's ass back to some of the bosses I was struggling with and must say the difference is night and day. Just feels an all round more solid build going into the vet levels. My restro skill is only level 19 (Destruction is 50), so it's currently feeling a little weak on the weapon front. That's to be expected and like people have stated, it's not a major issue due to how weak weapons are compared to actual skills. Running double Restro just to level it quicker though, and once it's up to around 40, I'll level another weapon. Began levelling both my food and alchemy.

Thanks again folks for taking the time out to offer me your advice.