Wrecking Blow

Molag_Crow

Why does Wrecking Blow stun/knock you down over and over and over and over again? who in their right mind thought of that to be a good idea in PvP?

Forestd16b14_ESO

Yes wrecking blow spamming is a problem ZoS needs to look at and fix before U7 drops and before any one says dodge or block it keep in mind 2 or 3 hits from it completely drains your stamina. WB needs to be toned down.

TequilaFire

Because you have to time your interrupt better to stop the player spamming it.

Dekkameron

TequilaFire wrote: »

Because you have to time your interrupt better to stop the player spamming it.

You can't interupt wrecking blow, but you can block/dodge it

Molag_Crow

And I can't block/interupt wrecking blow when vs 2 or more, because I'm a magicka build.

How does one even cast a single spell when they're flat out on the floor, unable to move/break free? stamina problem? sure, but where's the diminishing returns on knock downs considered "soft CC"? it's a joke.

The last update has made PvP even worse in my opinion. Don't get me started on burning Talons spam acting as a soft CC.

Dekkameron

All of the problems you seem to be having are not new, wrecking blow and talons spam has been part of ESO for since i remember.

and personally i have no issue with either of them

Molag_Crow

Dekkameron wrote: »

All of the problems you seem to be having are not new, wrecking blow and talons spam has been part of ESO for since i remember.

and personally i have no issue with either of them

Yeah I know, and let me guess... you're a DK?

Chrlynsch

Cc break... causes cc immunity... do it! Also if you see a wind up... walk through them... it cancels the animation and the damage. Stay as close as you can to them and continue to do this they won't land a single one.

starkerealm

Dekkameron wrote: »

All of the problems you seem to be having are not new, wrecking blow and talons spam has been part of ESO for since i remember.

and personally i have no issue with either of them

Wrecking Blow spam took a serious hit with... I want to say 1.5. I thought that applied to PvP as well, but... I don't know. I mean, I wrecking blow from stealth for about 30k. I don't usually try it on players that can actually see me.

Dekkameron

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

All of the problems you seem to be having are not new, wrecking blow and talons spam has been part of ESO for since i remember.

and personally i have no issue with either of them

Yeah I know, and let me guess... you're a DK?

I play every class and both magicka and stam versions of them. So in a way, yes i am..

TequilaFire

Yeah I forgot they changed that from 1.5.
But there is a brief time between WBs from the same player they are vulnerable

Multiple players using WB, there is always resurection.

starkerealm

Dekkameron wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

All of the problems you seem to be having are not new, wrecking blow and talons spam has been part of ESO for since i remember.

and personally i have no issue with either of them

Yeah I know, and let me guess... you're a DK?

I play every class and both magicka and stam versions of them. So in a way, yes i am..

Oh man, somehow I just synced that line up with your avatar, and now I think my brain is imploding. The image of a guar nightblade is freakin' priceless.

Molag_Crow

Prothwata wrote: »

Cc break... causes cc immunity... do it!

But it doesn't. The immunity animation is there, the stuns/knockdown still happen over and over so I don't know if it's just a console bug, or.... I don't know!

Dekkameron

starkerealm wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

All of the problems you seem to be having are not new, wrecking blow and talons spam has been part of ESO for since i remember.

and personally i have no issue with either of them

Yeah I know, and let me guess... you're a DK?

I play every class and both magicka and stam versions of them. So in a way, yes i am..

Oh man, somehow I just synced that line up with your avatar, and now I think my brain is imploding. The image of a guar nightblade is freakin' priceless.

I was just searching to find a piccy of a Guar holding weapons or something as a silly picture in response... but whislt doing so i saw these interesting things...







Unrelated i know, but kinda cool

FireCowCommando

If you are dying to Wrecking Blow then you need to change your build or play style. It is a cheap ability, but there are way stronger DPS combos to pull off. If you still cant beat a 1 trick pony play style, EVEN though Wrecking Blow is draining stamina at a crazy rate, bring a friend with you!

Wrecking Blow builds are the McDonalds of Stamina Burst. Cheap, fast, leaves you unfulfilled, but not very good.

Molag_Crow

I'm not having trouble with just wrecking blow, because I died by it vs 3 enemies. I'm on about it stunning me over and over and over and over again which causes a problem to even try and survive.

Mr_Nobody

Because when you are a templar and you knockback someone for 0.5 seconds after using jabs or put a bubble which 50% of the time does nothing and can be used to get free CC immunity ~ ~ ~ ...

You then always remember there are Talons which can be spammed 24/7 to prevent enemy from moving without giving CC immunity and/or ignoring it.

riverdragon72

It's not the ability that is broken, PVP is ****ing broken.

Molag_Crow

HAHAHA just got hit for a 19k wrecking blow, good game ZOS.

Gilvoth

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Why does Wrecking Blow stun/knock you down over and over and over and over again? who in their right mind thought of that to be a good idea in PvP?

your right and im getting pretty sick of it.

Dekkameron

FireCowCommando wrote: »

If you are dying to Wrecking Blow then you need to change your build or play style. It is a cheap ability, but there are way stronger DPS combos to pull off. If you still cant beat a 1 trick pony play style, EVEN though Wrecking Blow is draining stamina at a crazy rate, bring a friend with you!

Wrecking Blow builds are the McDonalds of Stamina Burst. Cheap, fast, leaves you unfulfilled, but not very good.

Crit rush, fear, wrecking blow, wrecking blow; tends to do the trick for most people for NB. Crit rush, petrify, wrecking blow, wrecking blow for DKs. Sorcs or Templar don't have obvious moves to put inbetween the crit rush and WBs, but it's all good.

JWT

perhaps it's not the skill itself but the player?
dude, don't ruin my burst build with yer whining they've already screwed roll dodging and blocking all to hell with the up coming patch, don't ruin the one decent stam ability

Molag_Crow

JWT wrote: »

perhaps it's not the skill itself but the player?
dude, don't ruin my burst build with yer whining they've already screwed roll dodging and blocking all to hell with the up coming patch, don't ruin the one decent stam ability

It won't ruin it... it won't even get nerfed, I bet. It was just a question and rant because of a few situations so it's not like I'm always going against wrecking blows. I can't beat most good DK tanks as a Vampire but that was one of my old ranty topics lol.

mtwiggz

Wrecking Blow spam in lag is a definite death sentence.

To anyone saying block/roll away, yes that's a totally viable option, if your character actually responds in enough time to do so.

The real issue persists when you get hit by multiple Wrecking Blows by the same person at once due to lag. While each attack takes 1 second to cast, it's not unusual for multiple ones to hit you at almost the same exact time while experiencing even a small amount of lag. In which case there is nothing you can do but accept your death and move on. Yet I suppose that is really an issue with any skill + lag combo.

Xjcon

Drop the knock back for the damage, if you want the knock back deal with less damage, this is what they did to crushing shock. Doubt they will do anything about tho.

Dekkameron

mtwiggz wrote: »

Wrecking Blow spam in lag is a definite death sentence.

To anyone saying block/roll away, yes that's a totally viable option, if your character actually responds in enough time to do so.

The real issue persists when you get hit by multiple Wrecking Blows by the same person at once due to lag. While each attack takes 1 second to cast, it's not unusual for multiple ones to hit you at almost the same exact time while experiencing even a small amount of lag. In which case there is nothing you can do but accept your death and move on. Yet I suppose that is really an issue with any skill + lag combo.

Aye, even without lag it often kills. A few times in a heated battles i have dodged a WB then blocked another at last minute then got caught by another with no stam then got chopped in two.

It happens, just hope the enemy isnt looking at you

starkerealm

FireCowCommando wrote: »

If you are dying to Wrecking Blow then you need to change your build or play style. It is a cheap ability, but there are way stronger DPS combos to pull off. If you still cant beat a 1 trick pony play style, EVEN though Wrecking Blow is draining stamina at a crazy rate, bring a friend with you!

Wrecking Blow builds are the McDonalds of Stamina Burst. Cheap, fast, leaves you unfulfilled, but not very good.

And just like McDonalds, it'll kill you if you don't see it coming... wait...

I remember when spamming it was a viable option. Good that it's gone away, though I do occasionally miss chaining some enemies like bears and scorpions into never ending uppercut bounces.

Sithisvoid

Dekkameron wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

If you are dying to Wrecking Blow then you need to change your build or play style. It is a cheap ability, but there are way stronger DPS combos to pull off. If you still cant beat a 1 trick pony play style, EVEN though Wrecking Blow is draining stamina at a crazy rate, bring a friend with you!

Wrecking Blow builds are the McDonalds of Stamina Burst. Cheap, fast, leaves you unfulfilled, but not very good.

Crit rush, fear, wrecking blow, wrecking blow; tends to do the trick for most people for NB. Crit rush, petrify, wrecking blow, wrecking blow for DKs. Sorcs or Templar don't have obvious moves to put inbetween the crit rush and WBs, but it's all good.

Sorcs can do heavy/light attacks weaved with destructive reach and then proc crystal frags and into dawnbreaker/meteor and it's all over with.

Dekkameron

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

If you are dying to Wrecking Blow then you need to change your build or play style. It is a cheap ability, but there are way stronger DPS combos to pull off. If you still cant beat a 1 trick pony play style, EVEN though Wrecking Blow is draining stamina at a crazy rate, bring a friend with you!

Wrecking Blow builds are the McDonalds of Stamina Burst. Cheap, fast, leaves you unfulfilled, but not very good.

Crit rush, fear, wrecking blow, wrecking blow; tends to do the trick for most people for NB. Crit rush, petrify, wrecking blow, wrecking blow for DKs. Sorcs or Templar don't have obvious moves to put inbetween the crit rush and WBs, but it's all good.

Sorcs can do heavy/light attacks weaved with destructive reach and then proc crystal frags and into dawnbreaker/meteor and it's all over with.

Oh aye, but i was more talking about sorc/temp twohanded