Undaunted Shoulders Often An Eyesore

Recremen

Most of them have a great design, but why do you only wear one? I think they'd look better if you could wear one on each shoulder, in almost all circumstances. I wonder if they'd add that as a toggle option or some nonsense. Thoughts?

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

I always wondered about that. Looks odd with just one shoulder.

BeardLumber

It is suppose to be a single pauldron which isn't uncommon. The idea is to have your one shoulder facing your opponent protected, while having your sword arm free and unrestricted.

Personally I think the single pauldron look is nicer, but I can understand why some wouldn't enjoy it. With that said I don't think they would add a toggle to show two instead of one.

AlnilamE

I actually prefer having them on one shoulder only (though most of them are still ugly).

But they are on the wrong shoulder.

Nestor

I would like a toggle where we can hide our shoulders like we can hide our helms.

Recremen

BeardLumber wrote: »

It is suppose to be a single pauldron which isn't uncommon. The idea is to have your one shoulder facing your opponent protected, while having your sword arm free and unrestricted.

Personally I think the single pauldron look is nicer, but I can understand why some wouldn't enjoy it. With that said I don't think they would add a toggle to show two instead of one.

Oh totes magoats. And as @AlnilamE pointed out, it would make more sense if they were on the left shoulder (since all characters are right-handed somehow). Who knows, though, they changed Redguard light armor to be less revealing, maybe if we make a case for naked shoulders they'd be more inclined to put in a toggle. ;-)

UrQuan

I feel like the quote in my signature is at least a little bit relevant to this discussion...

Recremen

Nestor wrote: »

I would like a toggle where we can hide our shoulders like we can hide our helms.

I've heard that from a few folks, yeah. Ditto for gloves, and one particular Bosmer who wanted to hide their shoes.

DigitalHitmann

I wanted to hide my pants ( for a good thought out reason ) and people raged at me.

BeardLumber

AlnilamE wrote: »

I actually prefer having them on one shoulder only (though most of them are still ugly).

But they are on the wrong shoulder.

Just like we mount and dismount off the wrong side of the horse!

Xendyn

One advantage I can see to the way they are.
In PVP, you can quickly identify who's wearing a Monster set and which one. Helms can be hidden, shoulders can't.

slumber_sandb16_ESO

I just wish they would beef up the size of the blood spawn shoulder, it looks so tiny compared to the bulky helmet. Please ZOS?

Exzear

I never liked having just 1 shoulder pad in any MMO.. was the same back in vanilla wow when i got my SM shoulders :P didnt like them and ended up trading them for some slightly worse shoulders just because i didnt like how they looked ^^

ContraTempo

BeardLumber wrote: »

It is suppose to be a single pauldron which isn't uncommon. The idea is to have your one shoulder facing your opponent protected, while having your sword arm free and unrestricted.

Historically, if a fighter were to wear only one pauldron it would be on the sword side. The shield should be covering the other side but everytime a cut is thrown that sword arm is exposed. More likely would be pauldrons on both sides with an additional gardbrace over the pauldron on one side. Which side did the gardbrace go on? It seems to vary, which is weird because being left handed was exceptionally rare. I suspect it varied according to the expected activity. Sword side for sword competitions, shield side for jousting, and both if you were going to war and planning to wear that much armor on the battlefield.

Tholian1

Why don't they just reward a special glyph, with what ever ability the undaunted armor is supposed to give, that can be used on any piece of armor you wish. Better than trying to hide the piece you don't like.

Kavatchian

I just want to dye our shields to match our armor lol.

PBpsy

The problem is not that it is one. The problem is that they rarely fit with anything.

UrQuan

ContraTempo wrote: »

BeardLumber wrote: »

It is suppose to be a single pauldron which isn't uncommon. The idea is to have your one shoulder facing your opponent protected, while having your sword arm free and unrestricted.

Historically, if a fighter were to wear only one pauldron it would be on the sword side. The shield should be covering the other side but everytime a cut is thrown that sword arm is exposed. More likely would be pauldrons on both sides with an additional gardbrace over the pauldron on one side. Which side did the gardbrace go on? It seems to vary, which is weird because being left handed was exceptionally rare. I suspect it varied according to the expected activity. Sword side for sword competitions, shield side for jousting, and both if you were going to war and planning to wear that much armor on the battlefield.

Well, that depends on the time period and fighting style. For sword and buckler, if you wore any pauldrons at all, you would be most likely to use a single pauldron on the buckler side, as you would typically fight with that arm, shoulder, and side forward as much as possible, presenting a smaller target, and only lunging forward with the sword when you've got an opening.

Off the top of my head, though, I can't think of any other examples of fighting styles where you would want a pauldron on that side, but you would still be concerned enough about keeping light and quick that you wouldn't want a pauldron on the other side as well.

thunderwell

Nestor wrote: »

I would like a toggle where we can hide our shoulders like we can hide our helms.

Where is this toggle option?
I couldn't find it on my initial look through the game options.
Or is it on the character panel somewhere...?
:embarrassed:

Xendyn

thunderwell wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

I would like a toggle where we can hide our shoulders like we can hide our helms.

Where is this toggle option?
I couldn't find it on my initial look through the game options.
Or is it on the character panel somewhere...?
:embarrassed:

On PC it's Settings/Gameplay I think

13igTyme

I enjoy asymmetrical armor, if it's done right.

Callous2208

DigitalHitmann wrote: »

I wanted to hide my pants ( for a good thought out reason ) and people raged at me.

Was that the Xena Warrior Princess one? If so, yea they laid in to you pretty good on that one.

ContraTempo

UrQuan wrote: »

Off the top of my head, though, I can't think of any other examples of fighting styles where you would want a pauldron on that side, but you would still be concerned enough about keeping light and quick that you wouldn't want a pauldron on the other side as well.

One pauldron, yeah, not many examples of that. But there are plenty of historical examples of asymmetrical use of a gardbrace over a pauldron. I just reviewed a number of sets of armor with a friend who is much more expert on armor and he confirms that the configuration (left, right or both) changes according to the expected application.

So, relating this back to ESO, IMO they should have made the additional armor a gardbrace, not a single pauldron, and then it would make sense for it to go on over the pauldron and only on one side. It could be an add to your existing armor and thus you could still have whatever advantages your favorite armor provides.

Recremen

Tholian1 wrote: »

Why don't they just reward a special glyph, with what ever ability the undaunted armor is supposed to give, that can be used on any piece of armor you wish. Better than trying to hide the piece you don't like.

Well they're pretty cool looking, like I said initially, so it's not like I want to hide it per-se, it's just way weird to have something like Molag Kena be on only one shoulder. Looks way too much like traditional armor to be so asymmetrical for my taste.

Gordon906

Xendyn wrote: »

One advantage I can see to the way they are.
In PVP, you can quickly identify who's wearing a Monster set and which one. Helms can be hidden, shoulders can't.

But you can wear costumes in PvP

Toolzy

The shoulders don't bother as much as the headpieces. Most of them are just butt ugly. I really wish ZOS had thought things through with these specific bonus set pieces. It kills the whole theme look that some want to go with. Personally, I wish my Nord Tank could look like a Nord but nope. I have to wear a dumb looking troll helm. That Minotaur motif set looks good too...but since monster helms are BiS, you don't really have a choice now other than wearing costumes do you?