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Is it true?
Abaddon2012
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So i'm on the NA PS4 server and was informed with next months update that none of the vampire passives are going to be active unless I have at least one vampire active ability slotted in each ability bar. So that is either going to force us to change our loadout or kill the vampire all together.
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Tholian1✭✭✭✭✭
✭I heard that Drain essence is supposed to be good after the update too.Edited by Tholian1 on August 18, 2015 12:38AMPS4 Pro NA0 -
Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Also Werewolf no longer gets the 15% passive stamina regen unless they are in transformation.
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bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭this is a great change for the game. no more free passive for werewolf, a reason to stay a human and an eualized trade off system for being vamp. very good stuff. vamp will not be dead. in fact more people may do it. and lest face it having batswarm or mist on your main bar for the perks is not so bad.4 -
Sithisvoid✭✭✭✭✭bowmanz607 wrote: »this is a great change for the game. no more free passive for werewolf, a reason to stay a human and an eualized trade off system for being vamp. very good stuff. vamp will not be dead. in fact more people may do it. and lest face it having batswarm or mist on your main bar for the perks is not so bad.
I love batswarm and mist. In PVP mist gets me out after I mess up lolEdited by Sithisvoid on August 18, 2015 2:12AM0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dark Stalker passive still functions without any vamp skills slotted.
Edit: this was true for me in 2.1 PTS, j have not tried it since 2.1.1 patch.Edited by Reverb on August 18, 2015 2:16AMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
Abaddon2012✭✭Dark Stalker passive still functions without any vamp skills slotted.
Edit: this was true for me in 2.1 PTS, j have not tried it since 2.1.1 patch.
It's supposed to chancge with the next update when they release the Imperial City DLC. I hope the dev team changes their minds cause I prefer it this way and I hope more people do aswell.0 -
Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's funny how many players want to be Vamp or WW, but don't want to actually have to use the skills. Why bother being one then? That's like wanting to have the sword and shield passives, but never using a sword and shield.
The upcoming change only requires you to slot one skill. You'll live.Edited by Akavir_Sentinel on August 18, 2015 1:58PM5 -
Abaddon2012✭✭Thanks for all your post but one thing still remains is that players will still have to re-adjust their loadouts to compensate the new chages and honestly I would rather give up my vampirism before I comprimise my load out and my ultimate. Batswarm cost way too much ultimate and underpowered. My ultimate in Mages guild and Soul Magic costs 150 less ultimate and I know at max level and morphed at 30,000 magicka the soul magic ultimate does 31,000 damage. So with all that being said I want to thank all the complainers and whiners who get on the forums and force the developers to change the game for the rest of us.0
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Man, if only Vampires had decent skills they could slot.. like a swarm of bats that deals damage and heals the player, the ability to turn into mist and become almost invincible, the power to drain health from an enemy while having them stunned. I'm really sorry they are making you slot at least one of these horrible abilities.13 -
Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All passives will work as they do now, except for the regeneration passive of vampire. This will require a vampire ability to be slotted. As to werewolf, as of now, just being a werewolf increases stamina regeneration by 15%. This will change to requiring the werewolf transformation to be slotted to gain this perk. No need to transform.
This can be easily answered by reading the PTS patch notes.Edited by Leandor on August 18, 2015 2:02PM4 -
markt84✭✭✭Who runs a vamp and takes that fire damage without slotting at least one of the really good skills available to vamps? It isn't like a werewolf that sucks unless you're running with a bunch of them. Elder scrolls have never made werewolves any good. Vamp was always the way to go until try eso put in that 15% regen without having the ultimate slotted.....well that's gone0
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Resipsa131✭✭✭CheeseDivinity wrote: »Man, if only Vampires had decent skills they could slot.. like a swarm of bats that deals damage and heals the player, the ability to turn into mist and become almost invincible, the power to drain health from an enemy while having them stunned. I'm really sorry they are making you slot at least one of these horrible abilities.
Elusive mist is cool for dks and temps and bat swarm is awesome but drain is mediocre.0 -
markt84✭✭✭Resipsa131 wrote: »CheeseDivinity wrote: »Man, if only Vampires had decent skills they could slot.. like a swarm of bats that deals damage and heals the player, the ability to turn into mist and become almost invincible, the power to drain health from an enemy while having them stunned. I'm really sorry they are making you slot at least one of these horrible abilities.
Elusive mist is cool for dks and temps and bat swarm is awesome but drain is mediocre.
I'm about to become a vamp just I can use mist, watched a sorc weave their way through AI in a fight to have the players get attack by them, while they were still talking the players. Using the AI to defeat people in IC looks crucial. Is the invis ability in the medium armor any good?0 -
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markt84✭✭✭CheeseDivinity wrote: »
Ok so it sucks, just was curious about it. But I need to turn to a vamp to be able to get mist0 -
GuyNamedSean✭✭✭✭Wait.. Hold on. I keep my Vamp abilities on my offensive bar and none on my tank bar. Would I lose the passives for switching bars? That'd be pretty ***. I mean, I can work around it, but that's gonna *** my bars a bit.Former Guildmaster of the Legion of Mournhold
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SturgeHammer✭✭✭✭Bat Swarm and mist form are both pretty solid abilities, using one of those to get the passives isn't really a ridiculous requirement.First-in-Line - Swings-for-Lethal
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And this, kids, is how rumors are started. Ignore the information, purport something you heard to be almost true by wrapping it into a question and watch how it spreads.
This is ridiculous. I give up.0 -
bowmanz607✭✭✭✭✭
✭GuyNamedSean wrote: »Wait.. Hold on. I keep my Vamp abilities on my offensive bar and none on my tank bar. Would I lose the passives for switching bars? That'd be pretty ***. I mean, I can work around it, but that's gonna *** my bars a bit.
You need an ability on both bars. For many simply having one ability on your main bar will be good b/c well that is the bat your on most of the time. Once you switch you will lose it.
Yes because that was dumb. If your not a vamp on live then you go ww for a free passive. Zero reason to be noral outside of roleplaying. This now makes it so you have a reason to be normal.Who runs a vamp and takes that fire damage without slotting at least one of the really good skills available to vamps? It isn't like a werewolf that sucks unless you're running with a bunch of them. Elder scrolls have never made werewolves any good. Vamp was always the way to go until try eso put in that 15% regen without having the ultimate slotted.....well that's goneAbaddon2012 wrote: »Thanks for all your post but one thing still remains is that players will still have to re-adjust their loadouts to compensate the new chages and honestly I would rather give up my vampirism before I comprimise my load out and my ultimate. Batswarm cost way too much ultimate and underpowered. My ultimate in Mages guild and Soul Magic costs 150 less ultimate and I know at max level and morphed at 30,000 magicka the soul magic ultimate does 31,000 damage. So with all that being said I want to thank all the complainers and whiners who get on the forums and force the developers to change the game for the rest of us.
Yes ofcourse they have to readjust. Welcome to the mmo world. And it should have been like that from the beginning. Now it is a legitimate choice making you weigh the pros and cons and helping to increase the diversity in the game. Now ppl have a reason to be normal. Also, Bayswater is still relatively easy to get up. Meteor and soul strike are realitivley easy to work around getting hit hard once you know the mechanics and not freak out when it happens. Batswarm you can go invisible to help mitigate damage while causing damage or get a very strong aoe heal if fitting a few people. Do you not remember the days of Batswarm spams and how ridiculous they were? The ultimate cost is not to high to make unusable but not to low to make spammable. Although still relatively easy to build your ultimate up quickly to get it.2
