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Inferno staff damage.

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I've seen people hit with destro heavy attacks for 10k+. How is that type of damage obtained? Is it through the staff expert in champion points, or does spell damage or weapon damage increase the numbers as well?
  • Alucardo
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    I'm pretty sure heavy and light attacks on staves scale from spell damage. So maxing out your magicka, sets with spell damage + max magicka, destro passives, sorc power surge, inner light, CPs are all contributing factors to increasing your damage output with staves. That, and flame staves hit like trucks anyway.
  • leepalmer95
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    spell dmg + max magicka is how to increase staff dmg, it was likely a heavy attack, so all the passives that contribute, also a dk skill molten armaments adds 40% dmg to heavy attack.
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  • asneakybanana
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    10k isn't much tbh. A good heavy attack build will hit non vanps for 15k+ crits and vamps for over 25k crits. The combination of around 3k spell damage, 17k spell penetration, 35k mag and igneous weapons for a dk allows for huge numbers. In pve on a super low health mob it isn't uncommon to see over 60k heavy attacks with molten armaments morph. Also 1% in ele expert boosts your heavy attack damage by the same as 1% in staff expert so if you want the highest heavy attack possible you need to balance the 2 trees.
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  • Dracane
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    10k isn't much tbh. A good heavy attack build will hit non vanps for 15k+ crits and vamps for over 25k crits. The combination of around 3k spell damage, 17k spell penetration, 35k mag and igneous weapons for a dk allows for huge numbers. In pve on a super low health mob it isn't uncommon to see over 60k heavy attacks with molten armaments morph. Also 1% in ele expert boosts your heavy attack damage by the same as 1% in staff expert so if you want the highest heavy attack possible you need to balance the 2 trees.

    60 000 damage heavy attacks ? No, definately not. Must be a typo
    The only thing in this game capable of pulling such numbers would be Soul Assault with all kind of buffs and if each tick would crit.
    Edited by Dracane on August 16, 2015 9:19AM
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    weaving ftw
  • M4YON
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    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?
  • Dracane
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    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.
    Auri-El is my lord,
    Trinimac my ward,
    and Magnus my mind.
  • M4YON
    M4YON
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

  • Dracane
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    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

    You should max out your damage. Of course, regeneration is very strong and if you never run out of Magicka, you can't die so easily. But you also won't be able to kill fast enough.

    I get so bored when seeing duels between someone and a regeneration Sorcerer. They don't deal any damage.
    Sorcerer damage is too easy to mititgate. There will be few situations, where you'll be able to harm your enemy and you have to use these short moment to kill them if possible. You can only win, if your enemy totally messes up or runs out of ressources when you are a regeneration build.

    Take as much regenration as you can, but 2100 Spell damage buffed is the minium if you don't want 1 hour fights.
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    Trinimac my ward,
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  • M4YON
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    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

    You should max out your damage. Of course, regeneration is very strong and if you never run out of Magicka, you can't die so easily. But you also won't be able to kill fast enough.

    I get so bored when seeing duels between someone and a regeneration Sorcerer. They don't deal any damage.
    Sorcerer damage is too easy to mititgate. There will be few situations, where you'll be able to harm your enemy and you have to use these short moment to kill them if possible. You can only win, if your enemy totally messes up or runs out of ressources when you are a regeneration build.

    Take as much regenration as you can, but 2100 Spell damage buffed is the minium if you don't want 1 hour fights.

    I feel you, i have only just recently started properly building my Sorcerer and whilst the changes i made to have amazing magicka regen have helped with the Sorcerery side of things the very little damage is hurting me in big mobs.

    I had already planned for the cyrodiils light rings to be added soon but i may have to switch out my seducer for martial Knowledge see if that helps me. I don't currently have any jewellery sets so that could help but should i still lack in spell damage i'll have to make the full change.
  • revonine
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    My fully charged heavy inferno attacks on my magicka NB I swear hit as hard or harder than my skills sometimes. They also damn near one shot unprotected vamps (or do if it's a crit). Full damage setup though as others have said it scales of max magicka and spell power.
  • leepalmer95
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    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

    You should max out your damage. Of course, regeneration is very strong and if you never run out of Magicka, you can't die so easily. But you also won't be able to kill fast enough.

    I get so bored when seeing duels between someone and a regeneration Sorcerer. They don't deal any damage.
    Sorcerer damage is too easy to mititgate. There will be few situations, where you'll be able to harm your enemy and you have to use these short moment to kill them if possible. You can only win, if your enemy totally messes up or runs out of ressources when you are a regeneration build.

    Take as much regenration as you can, but 2100 Spell damage buffed is the minium if you don't want 1 hour fights.

    ppl build regen sorc? it's so easy to get 1500 mag regen on a sorc without actually using regen gear or drinks, high elf passive and cp pretty much gives you 1500.

    Spell dmg is important but having high magicka is better, magicka = dmg + shield.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • olsborg
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    IMO the absolute minimum your spelldmg should be is 1700-1800(unbuffed), and then your max magicka should be 30-35k. But try to push it higher.

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  • M4YON
    M4YON
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

    You should max out your damage. Of course, regeneration is very strong and if you never run out of Magicka, you can't die so easily. But you also won't be able to kill fast enough.

    I get so bored when seeing duels between someone and a regeneration Sorcerer. They don't deal any damage.
    Sorcerer damage is too easy to mititgate. There will be few situations, where you'll be able to harm your enemy and you have to use these short moment to kill them if possible. You can only win, if your enemy totally messes up or runs out of ressources when you are a regeneration build.

    Take as much regenration as you can, but 2100 Spell damage buffed is the minium if you don't want 1 hour fights.

    ppl build regen sorc? it's so easy to get 1500 mag regen on a sorc without actually using regen gear or drinks, high elf passive and cp pretty much gives you 1500.

    Spell dmg is important but having high magicka is better, magicka = dmg + shield.
    My problem is im a Dark Elf not a High Elf so different abilities and i can't pull that kind of regen without the right mundus stone and divine traits on my gear at the min i get 1600 regen. My issue is spell damage i need at least 2000 to actually make an impact but im going to change my gear so i should be able to solve that issue. Im only VR6 so dtill time to improve my stats.

  • leepalmer95
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    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

    You should max out your damage. Of course, regeneration is very strong and if you never run out of Magicka, you can't die so easily. But you also won't be able to kill fast enough.

    I get so bored when seeing duels between someone and a regeneration Sorcerer. They don't deal any damage.
    Sorcerer damage is too easy to mititgate. There will be few situations, where you'll be able to harm your enemy and you have to use these short moment to kill them if possible. You can only win, if your enemy totally messes up or runs out of ressources when you are a regeneration build.

    Take as much regenration as you can, but 2100 Spell damage buffed is the minium if you don't want 1 hour fights.

    ppl build regen sorc? it's so easy to get 1500 mag regen on a sorc without actually using regen gear or drinks, high elf passive and cp pretty much gives you 1500.

    Spell dmg is important but having high magicka is better, magicka = dmg + shield.
    My problem is im a Dark Elf not a High Elf so different abilities and i can't pull that kind of regen without the right mundus stone and divine traits on my gear at the min i get 1600 regen. My issue is spell damage i need at least 2000 to actually make an impact but im going to change my gear so i should be able to solve that issue. Im only VR6 so dtill time to improve my stats.

    Magicka also increase your overall dmg, not just spell damage, use sets that give you all, healer and magnus 4 trait gives max magicka, regen and spell dmg.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • M4YON
    M4YON
    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    M4YON wrote: »
    How you all getting such high spell damage im a vet 6 dark elf Sorcerer running 4 set of magnus and a 4 set of seducer but only 1125 spell damage. My magicka recovery is 1600+ so i can spam my bar no bother but majorly lacking in spell damage and in othwr areas too.

    Spell damage 1125
    Spell crit 20%
    Spell resistance around 5695

    Anyone got any advice?

    Your spell damage can be around 2500-2600 if you max it out without using dual wield.
    Martial Knowledge, cyrodiils light, turgs pact.

    I appreciate the help that sounds like a massive difference between what i have what of each set will i need to get that kind if damage and what will i lose out in by switching magicka recovery? Max magicka?

    You should max out your damage. Of course, regeneration is very strong and if you never run out of Magicka, you can't die so easily. But you also won't be able to kill fast enough.

    I get so bored when seeing duels between someone and a regeneration Sorcerer. They don't deal any damage.
    Sorcerer damage is too easy to mititgate. There will be few situations, where you'll be able to harm your enemy and you have to use these short moment to kill them if possible. You can only win, if your enemy totally messes up or runs out of ressources when you are a regeneration build.

    Take as much regenration as you can, but 2100 Spell damage buffed is the minium if you don't want 1 hour fights.

    ppl build regen sorc? it's so easy to get 1500 mag regen on a sorc without actually using regen gear or drinks, high elf passive and cp pretty much gives you 1500.

    Spell dmg is important but having high magicka is better, magicka = dmg + shield.
    My problem is im a Dark Elf not a High Elf so different abilities and i can't pull that kind of regen without the right mundus stone and divine traits on my gear at the min i get 1600 regen. My issue is spell damage i need at least 2000 to actually make an impact but im going to change my gear so i should be able to solve that issue. Im only VR6 so dtill time to improve my stats.

    Magicka also increase your overall dmg, not just spell damage, use sets that give you all, healer and magnus 4 trait gives max magicka, regen and spell dmg.

    Im running 4 magnus 4 seducer and working on the cyrodiils light rings but thinki g of switching out the seducer for martial Knowledge.
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