Capitalism at it’s worth!

raymond.bintzb16_ESO

I am really an “Elder Scroll»! With this I mean my age and my experience as an online player (MMO’s,especially PVP) I’ve played more or less everything on the market (from “Richard Gariott” Ultima online over “Mark Richards” Dark Age of Camelot, of course Warhammer online, Aion, Line Age, EVE, WOW, Everquest, City of Heroes, Lotro, SWTOR, AoC, Rift, The secret World, aso, aso.

All this games had there flaws as well as there strong points, no question about that, some studios have been real pioneers, they took massive risks and did everything possible with the technology available at that time to deliver a great experience, a great game.
I am not even questioning the quality of ESO, the graphics, the quests aso.

What I mean here is that I’m meanwhile absolutely sure that there was a huge battle (of course hidden from the public) between genius Devs and the marketing, and the management of this company, and as always the $ has won.

The PVP part of ESO is based on the genius idea of 3 realms copied from WAR/DAOC and again, as all the studios before. You have completely failed endless server and connection issues who are not addressed (to expensive?)

But never ever I’ve seen a company ripping off, abusing its fans (clients) like you guys!

Going ftp was for the Devs a big defeat and for the marketing, management an opportunity to squeeze out the last penny of a new generation of young ignorant players. (80% of your webpage is full of promotions for worthless pets, mounts aso.)

A very angry old fart who has definitely enough of your miserable greed!

Regards,

Waffennacht

Im curious what has you upset? Selling mounts?

icontested

You seem really confident about these words. I'm sure someone who has played as much as you can provide a more comprehensive breakdown of how much total overhead is. If I had to guess I would say it's a labor of love for some of these devs and its crucial to keep things moving forward.

What would I know, I just sit around and play

Tors

How has ANY of this affected you personally?

Aside from the lagged servers which probably comes from crap network code rather than lack of investment, vanity items have ZERO impact on you.

If you have played the games you list, then I find it hard to fathom your deciding ESO is the worst.

Aion ffs!! You place Aion as a lesser in this than ESO?


How are they ripping ANYONE off? The games free.......


I would love an enforced subscription, but that's besides the point. The games free. If I wasn't on a final warning I would be a lot stronger at making the wrong person on the interwebs see my point.

traigusb14_ESO2

Not actually FTP.

People with long backgrounds in the field should know the categories...

Tors

Yeah but Aion?

They sold items that you could sell for in game cash. It was the ultimate in P2W.



City of Heroes, Lotro, SWTOR, AoC, Rift - These are all i class, the "newbie quick buck" games. They were almost practise games for the engines behind them. All have a very strong ingame cash shop presence and were all crap to play with so much down time and terrible dev decisions. All unprofessionally run games I think were just "testers" of technology

WoW. No need to talk about this one, i'm sure the majority of people have played and know the things that cash will buy you. From in game mounts to plush toys.

Warhammer online, I'm not sure I remember a cash shop, I do remember a game that I felt let me down when I had been looking forward to making it my new home. The real v realm thing was an obvious rip from DAOC, especially considering who was in charge of the PvP side of it

Asherons_Call

raymond.bintzb16_ESO wrote: »

I am really an “Elder Scroll»! With this I mean my age and my experience as an online player (MMO’s,especially PVP) I’ve played more or less everything on the market (from “Richard Gariott” Ultima online over “Mark Richards” Dark Age of Camelot, of course Warhammer online, Aion, Line Age, EVE, WOW, Everquest, City of Heroes, Lotro, SWTOR, AoC, Rift, The secret World, aso, aso.

All this games had there flaws as well as there strong points, no question about that, some studios have been real pioneers, they took massive risks and did everything possible with the technology available at that time to deliver a great experience, a great game.
I am not even questioning the quality of ESO, the graphics, the quests aso.

What I mean here is that I’m meanwhile absolutely sure that there was a huge battle (of course hidden from the public) between genius Devs and the marketing, and the management of this company, and as always the $ has won.

The PVP part of ESO is based on the genius idea of 3 realms copied from WAR/DAOC and again, as all the studios before. You have completely failed endless server and connection issues who are not addressed (to expensive?)

But never ever I’ve seen a company ripping off, abusing its fans (clients) like you guys!

Going ftp was for the Devs a big defeat and for the marketing, management an opportunity to squeeze out the last penny of a new generation of young ignorant players. (80% of your webpage is full of promotions for worthless pets, mounts aso.)

A very angry old fart who has definitely enough of your miserable greed!

Regards,

This guy likes to say aso

Mojmir

so what if there was a "battle" between devs and marketing, with all your years of experience you should know its all about the bottom line, as someone who has also been through many MMO's ive seen them crumble under the same circumstances or for less. and lack of specifics doesnt help your case much either.

SilentRaven1972

I'm a bit new to the MMO scene, even though I'm "old" in age. I've played this and Neverwinter. From what I can see, Neverwinter is turning into a P2W, even though it's a "totally free" to play game. I much prefer ESO. Having to buy it helps reduce some of the bots, and they seem to try to keep them squashed. I don't mind the cash shop, it's mostly vanity items and gives no one special advantage. I love that there are no "lockboxes"! If those ever show up, I'll be running for the hills. It sounds like someone may just have a case of sour grapes over some unknown thing.

AngryNord

So - can we have your stuff?

PBpsy

So....If I understand correctly...... what you want is a cute giant striped fox mount on the Crown store?

Mojmir

life is pain anyone who says otherwise is selling something -dread pirate wesley

raymond.bintzb16_ESO

When ESO went ftp, I continued my subscription until today!

The point is that ESO PVP (I only play PVP) had from beta on, huge server and connection issues, but it was playable! They knew it, we knew it! Since the launch of the console version, at least for me, I simply can’t play the game anymore. I can’t, the max time in game I reach is 20-30 min! (And then it was a very lucky session) Since 1-2 weeks, I have to type more often my password than I touch my mouse. Yesterday the max in game time I reached was 2 minutes before I got kicked! Again and again…After the 10th login in less than 10 minutes I gave it up (unknown error!)

No it is NOT my connection, no it is not my PC nor my Laptop. No it is not plugins nor Antivirus! It is an overcrowded server which kicks you as soon as you have the slightest ping variation.

I am so upset because they don’t even try to fix it, they invest in *** content and continue to fill an overcrowded server with more and more players…

Loomis

The beautiful thing about capitalism is the best product for the money gets the money ... others fail... So ummm help capitalism work ... Don't let the door hit ha on the way out...

Btw I like the game, love capitalism, deplore political jabs on game sites... I've also played mmos as long or longer than you started with meridian before ultima ... They all have problems but this game is fairly solid ... Except auction house and chat and a few other things

Loomis

double post

Loomis

raymond.bintzb16_ESO wrote: »

When ESO went ftp, I continued my subscription until today!

The point is that ESO PVP (I only play PVP) had from beta on, huge server and connection issues, but it was playable! They knew it, we knew it! Since the launch of the console version, at least for me, I simply can’t play the game anymore. I can’t, the max time in game I reach is 20-30 min! (And then it was a very lucky session) Since 1-2 weeks, I have to type more often my password than I touch my mouse. Yesterday the max in game time I reached was 2 minutes before I got kicked! Again and again…After the 10th login in less than 10 minutes I gave it up (unknown error!)

No it is NOT my connection, no it is not my PC nor my Laptop. No it is not plugins nor Antivirus! It is an overcrowded server which kicks you as soon as you have the slightest ping variation.

I am so upset because they don’t even try to fix it, they invest in *** content and continue to fill an overcrowded server with more and more players…

This is not exactly a pvp masterpiece lots of other games fill that role way better...

This is a great PvE mmo though

NephilimHero

raymond.bintzb16_ESO wrote: »

When ESO went ftp, I continued my subscription until today!

The point is that ESO PVP (I only play PVP) had from beta on, huge server and connection issues, but it was playable! They knew it, we knew it! Since the launch of the console version, at least for me, I simply can’t play the game anymore. I can’t, the max time in game I reach is 20-30 min! (And then it was a very lucky session) Since 1-2 weeks, I have to type more often my password than I touch my mouse. Yesterday the max in game time I reached was 2 minutes before I got kicked! Again and again…After the 10th login in less than 10 minutes I gave it up (unknown error!)

No it is NOT my connection, no it is not my PC nor my Laptop. No it is not plugins nor Antivirus! It is an overcrowded server which kicks you as soon as you have the slightest ping variation.

I am so upset because they don’t even try to fix it, they invest in *** content and continue to fill an overcrowded server with more and more players…

So what your saying is that your ping is the issue? And it's B2P don't be deliberately stupid

Tors

Asherons_Call wrote: »

This guy likes to say aso

@Asherons_Call , yeah, I read it as AC, and got excited, and thought he would mention Dereth.

Then realized it was something else.

Tonnopesce

raymond.bintzb16_ESO wrote: »

When ESO went ftp, I continued my subscription until today!

The point is that ESO PVP (I only play PVP) had from beta on, huge server and connection issues, but it was playable! They knew it, we knew it! Since the launch of the console version, at least for me, I simply can’t play the game anymore. I can’t, the max time in game I reach is 20-30 min! (And then it was a very lucky session) Since 1-2 weeks, I have to type more often my password than I touch my mouse. Yesterday the max in game time I reached was 2 minutes before I got kicked! Again and again…After the 10th login in less than 10 minutes I gave it up (unknown error!)

No it is NOT my connection, no it is not my PC nor my Laptop. No it is not plugins nor Antivirus! It is an overcrowded server which kicks you as soon as you have the slightest ping variation.

I am so upset because they don’t even try to fix it, they invest in *** content and continue to fill an overcrowded server with more and more players…

The majority of the player-base don't suffer your issues (or at least not during peak hours) try out some simple tests to know if your ISP is throttling some services (don't ask them the answer will be always "NO") even if you have 100000k MB download or upload IF the ISP don't want you to use a service you will never be able to use it unless you know that they are doing so.

Most of the ISP problems came out when there is a lot of data going in and out of a PC.
And now that the game is a little more popular the connection issue can be your case.


BTW if you go... can i have your stuff?

Volkodav

Ya know what is sad? That people arent allowed to just have a good rant.Otherwise people just flame the crap outta you.What is it that makes people jump on someone for what they might post,even when they are saying that they are upset because of the way WE,the fans,are being ripped off.
To the OP:
I respect your post.I understand your feelings of frustration and needing to express it. And,..I understand how you feel about the squeezing every last penny out of us.

Eloka477

Everything that you can buy in the store you can buy with in game money or craft yourself, they have to make some kind of money to keep their servers going and pay employee's.

They are not selling ANYTHING you need to buy to progress or that you can not get without paying real money. I honestly don't get this.