Zos revert the extra 30% damage reduction and do this

Kloud

Give every one 15% more hp increase in cyrodiil on top of the 5k and make all shields based off hp and add ic and the all the new item sets and bam game fixed!

tist

Give everyone 30% more HP
Shields critable
Remove stealth bonus damage
Make people not sit on the ground for 20 years when dismounted

CN_Daniel

I think the easiest no brainier solution would have been to make reinforced work like nirn and double the effects of infused and divines. Bam, either tanky or mo stats.

gibous

I think the current damage reduction should be cut in half, so that it's in between current PTS and current live servers.

Kloud

The only issue I see about shields being critable is the shield have no resist and small shields will be royaly screwed with that change like blazing or ing shield if they inc hp by 15% 20% and made sheilds scale off hp everybody wins ttk is increased but not absurdly shields will be strong but not absurdly and plus with all the new defensive sets and group sets they don't need to flat out nerf damage seriously that set that reduces damage by 35% when cced on top of zos 50% damage reduction on top of vampire passive is insane

Lightninvash

tist wrote: »

Make people not sit on the ground for 20 years when dismounted

yes!!! I hate that haha

Tankqull

Kloud wrote: »

The only issue I see about shields being critable is the shield have no resist and small shields will be royaly screwed with that change like blazing or ing shield if they inc hp by 15% 20% and made sheilds scale off hp everybody wins ttk is increased but not absurdly shields will be strong but not absurdly and plus with all the new defensive sets and group sets they don't need to flat out nerf damage seriously that set that reduces damage by 35% when cced on top of zos 50% damage reduction on top of vampire passive is insane

small shields are screwed regardless of they are crittable or not thx to the overflow issue.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

@tist remove stealth bonus and give Nightblades what in exchange? Have powers and passives build around Stealth burst. We have no shields and weak heals, take away burst and we have nothing.

FearlessOne_2014

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

@tist remove stealth bonus and give Nightblades what in exchange? Have powers and passives build around Stealth burst. We have no shields and weak heals, take away burst and we have nothing.

NBs have a spamable get out of jail free card that unlike bolt escape and it's morphs have no "Next shadow cloak cast with in 4 secs cost %50 more and is stackable." Right? Oh and the change so far to the damn abilitiy to make it where single target attacks get nullified when using shadow cloak and it's morphed abilities. Not to mention have much more love NBs are getting at the expansion launch. Lol why play any other class other then NB or Templar? But you know what lets make sorcs useless yet again, well not totally useless but none the less just about useless. And actually a NB healer might actually be able to keep up with a Temp healer after the patch. Need a group on the PTS to test this theory of mines tho.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

@tist remove stealth bonus and give Nightblades what in exchange? Have powers and passives build around Stealth burst. We have no shields and weak heals, take away burst and we have nothing.

NBs have a spamable get out of jail free card that unlike bolt escape and it's morphs have no "Next shadow cloak cast with in 4 secs cost %50 more and is stackable." Right? Oh and the change so far to the damn abilitiy to make it where single target attacks get nullified when using shadow cloak and it's morphed abilities. Not to mention have much more love NBs are getting at the expansion launch. Lol why play any other class other then NB or Templar? But you know what lets make sorcs useless yet again, well not totally useless but none the less just about useless. And actually a NB healer might actually be able to keep up with a Temp healer after the patch. Need a group on the PTS to test this theory of mines tho.

Shadow Cloak and a Miss Chance is the limit of Nightblade Defense along with Fear. Not being hit by single targets when people can't see you makes sense, one guy drinking a pot and 24 people can see and hit you 100% countering your class defense is BS. Not sure what game you play but as a Stamina Nightblade not a single Nightblade I have ever fought has a get out of jail free card. Fear break it fear them right back see who has my stamina to keep it up Magicka Blades lose that fight. Cloak? Mage light on the melee bar stops stealth stuns plus Det pot = I see you and you can't stealth stun me magic and stamina dies here.

Also so sick of the Cloak is just like BE BS cloak leaves you in the fight you need vampire sneak speed, Double Take or Concealed Weapons (25% stealth speed buff) to get away with 2.9 seconds of cloak. Stun and BE 3 times you are gone. Stun and cloak three times with no stealth speed buffs and you die 6m from where you just were. The counters to cloak are good enough you just need to use them it has more counters then any other power, passive or mechanic in the whole game.

Zsymon

You can't really do any change to shields until you fix the overflow problem. Right now smaller shields actually increase the amount of damage you take from a big hit, instead of decrease it. No one should ever use the frost staff heavy attack for example, that passive is a death sentence.

Casting Igneous Shield basically increases the damage your entire group takes, a disaster. It increases your healing sure, but what is the point of that if your team also takes a lot more damage because of it. The more often you cast it, the more damage your team takes, it's almost like friendly fire. It's like a group debuff that sets their armor and spell resistance to 0.

There is no way you can nerf damage shields until the overflow bug is fixed. Sure Sorcs will be easier to kill, but an entire game mechanic will be rendered not only useless but detrimental to any build. What gets people worried is that ZOS won't even acknowledge this problem, let alone fix it.

leepalmer95

Zsymon wrote: »

You can't really do any change to shields until you fix the overflow problem. Right now smaller shields actually increase the amount of damage you take from a big hit, instead of decrease it. No one should ever use the frost staff heavy attack for example, that passive is a death sentence.

Casting Igneous Shield basically increases the damage your entire group takes, a disaster. It increases your healing sure, but what is the point of that if your team also takes a lot more damage because of it. The more often you cast it, the more damage your team takes, it's almost like friendly fire. It's like a group debuff that sets their armor and spell resistance to 0.

There is no way you can nerf damage shields until the overflow bug is fixed. Sure Sorcs will be easier to kill, but an entire game mechanic will be rendered not only useless but detrimental to any build. What gets people worried is that ZOS won't even acknowledge this problem, let alone fix it.

Pretty sure zos just refuses to acknowledge a lot of problems and cover them up with new content, i'm kinda of sad that they don't see if you put new content on a shaky foundation it's not going to end well.

Cody

well, at least now players can't one shot from stealth

Zsymon

Cody wrote: »

well, at least now players can't one shot from stealth

They couldn't before either if they'd bother to slot Radiant Magelight.

This whole outcry about getting one-shot stemmed from people refusing to use the counter to stealth attacks.

Tankqull

Zsymon wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

well, at least now players can't one shot from stealth

They couldn't before either if they'd bother to slot Radiant Magelight.

This whole outcry about getting one-shot stemmed from people refusing to use the counter to stealth attacks.

thats not true as the way radiant works in terms of reduction its only a matter of CPs spendable to reach oneshot dmg values on radianted targets. nad thats the problem radiant is garbage.

Cody

Zsymon wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

well, at least now players can't one shot from stealth

They couldn't before either if they'd bother to slot Radiant Magelight.

This whole outcry about getting one-shot stemmed from people refusing to use the counter to stealth attacks.

i don't recall Radiant Magelight really helping very much in that scenario:(