ZoS: New Vampire Changes

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Will you be adding three new Vampire powers? With the changes to both Werewolves and Vampires now needing at lease one power on your bar for the passive, will you be adding in Stamina powers for stamina vampires. My Nightblades Dark Cloak is completely useless as an escape if I move slow in stealth vampire help this as both Night's Silents and Shadow Dancer are pretty poor sets. Will their be new Vampire powers that will be worth the slot for stamina builds. I like most stamina Nightblades I'm a vamp for the last passive only the others I use to make up for the vampire weaknesses.

• Bats are great but my Tether Stuns, gives me 8% more magic, 3% more healing and needs to be purged off, not simply backed out of.

• Drain does to little damage on a stamina build and once used the target it immune to which affects make me very impractical.

• Mist cost far too much and your magic doesn't regen while in mist. High cost, no regen of magic and no heals for anywhere makes it hard to justify when you have little magic. Dark cloak and vampire movement speed is enough to save you most times now.

I like needing to have vamp or WW ultimate to use the sweet passives but vampires have little to work with if you're a stamina user and if you're a Nightblade you have better versions of vampire powers in my opinion.

Hastings88

I agree even a stam morph we need somthing. I will try to make it work as is but i dont think it will happen

WyldfireWyrm

Just like Werewolf needs magicka morphs to some of their abilities. It's ridiculous to force stamina to only be werewolf and magicka to only be vampire to be effective playstyles.

Zsymon

WyldfireWyrm wrote: »

Just like Werewolf needs magicka morphs to some of their abilities. It's ridiculous to force stamina to only be werewolf and magicka to only be vampire to be effective playstyles.

Vampires have a strong mind and werewolves a strong body, makes sense to me.

A magicka werewolf would be quite silly in my opinion, since they are all about brute physical force.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

I have to agree Werewolves are all about raw power now that magic heal was needed cause a pool should never be completely unused but magic morphs to WW powers is on some shakely ground. Where as Vampires can be viable with magic or stamina and it's only two powers a one time attacks and an escape they have room for three more powers.

I will hate it be forced to slot a power that makes no sense cause I can hit one person one time with it or an escape that stops regenerating the resource I need to get away or have both my ultimates as bats just so I can use the stealth passive I already double bar Cloak to drop dots even in lag loading both ultimates is not worth it.

21jws10

...the passive affected is the regen one, not the ones that improve sneaking speed, I'm pretty sure...

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

No that's just for WW as its the only passive they get in human form. For vampires it's all the passives as we can use them all the time. The change was needed to make WW cost you something now it cost a ultimate slot for more regeneration. Although vampire had bonus damage from fire, and Fighter Guild powers and passives doing the same to vampires is only fair. I just want powers worth using, not being forced to lose good powers to make my Cloak useable as escape with vampire sneak speed. Hell even stamina morphs would be ok Poison Mist is pretty unused it can be a stamina morph and the drain that gives you speed as stamina and the ultimate one for magic would be fair.

Lightninvash

Zsymon wrote: »

WyldfireWyrm wrote: »

Just like Werewolf needs magicka morphs to some of their abilities. It's ridiculous to force stamina to only be werewolf and magicka to only be vampire to be effective playstyles.

Vampires have a strong mind and werewolves a strong body, makes sense to me.

A magicka werewolf would be quite silly in my opinion, since they are all about brute physical force.

I couldn't agree more on this

Xvorg

Any chance to run conc weapon instead of surprise attack? I know the dmg of SA in stam builder is great, but the chance to sneak faster compensates the lost dmg.

Unless you want to be super vamp

whodat2eso

Donti

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

No that's just for WW as its the only passive they get in human form. For vampires it's all the passives as we can use them all the time. The change was needed to make WW cost you something now it cost a ultimate slot for more regeneration. Although vampire had bonus damage from fire, and Fighter Guild powers and passives doing the same to vampires is only fair. I just want powers worth using, not being forced to lose good powers to make my Cloak useable as escape with vampire sneak speed. Hell even stamina morphs would be ok Poison Mist is pretty unused it can be a stamina morph and the drain that gives you speed as stamina and the ultimate one for magic would be fair.

wrong Vampire Will Need To Have A Move Slotted For The SuperNatural Passive.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

I know in fact that's why I opened this post about that asking for stamina options for vampires

Xvorg

SN is going to be a toggle?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

What is SN?

Xvorg

Super natural?

That's going to ruin my vamp

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Not a toggle but you will need to have a vampire power or the ultimate on your bar to use it any power will do problem is the escape is not good for stamina builds the attacks is not good outside of sure kills as you can hit one person one time with it and the ultimate is not as good as Soul Tether so it makes less Sense for Nightblades

Xvorg

That's really bad news even for a mag NB.

Although I have the ulti un one of my toons bar, the other uses soul tether. And under no circunstances I'm gonna drop siphon attacks for a lame skill as drain essence just to get the 5% extra.

Maybe iit is time to pat a visit to Arkay with a bag of gold

chevalierknight

Patch notes say drain does not make them cc amune and does no longer have the just fed debuff meaning can cast on same target

chevalierknight

Xvorg wrote: »

That's really bad news even for a mag NB.

Although I have the ulti un one of my toons bar, the other uses soul tether. And under no circunstances I'm gonna drop siphon attacks for a lame skill as drain essence just to get the 5% extra.

Maybe iit is time to pat a visit to Arkay with a bag of gold

You're not losing the regen as a magic nightblade as the shadow passive will give 15% magic and stam reg so you will get 5% more with out the sn passing just for being a nb And op read the notes wrong only the passive sn needs an abilty sloted to get the reg all the rest ergo sneak speed or undeath dont need a vampire abilty you can test on pts or read the notes



Dont know how op read it wrong there very clear it only the sn passive

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

What patch notes?

chevalierknight

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

What patch notes?

You made a topic on the changers to vampire and you didnt even read the patch notes come on bro thats so bad

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

PTS Patch notes and PTS are sadly not 100% reliable as a lot of them are we finally fix this I promise this time

chevalierknight

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

PTS Patch notes and PTS are sadly not 100% reliable as a lot of them are we finally fix this I promise this time

? Im not going to try to understand that


They are changers to vampire not fixs and live on pts



To everyone reading op failed to read or understand the notes and or is not on the pts only the sn passive needs a abilty sloted rest of the passives do not need an abilty sloted nothing to see here

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Well I do read the note and I also read the ones before with the same "fixes" and upgrades that a in the notes but not on the PTS they mess up a lot of stuff in the so called updates

And as with all nerfs in this game it will take four seconds of QQing till it's all the passives covering all bases here

chevalierknight

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Well I do read the note and I also read the ones before with the same "fixes" and upgrades that a in the notes but not on the PTS they mess up a lot of stuff in the so called updates

And as with all nerfs in this game it will take four seconds of QQing till it's all the passives covering all bases here

What part of the changes are live dont you get what you said was all wrong or misinformed end of matter