How does one ever manage to level provisoning (without insane coin cost) in this game???

BoozeKashi

There are not "200" ingredients. There are exactly 51. (Perfect Roe latest addition) With 487 recipes available finding something to cook shouldn't be a problem at all.

Take 5 minutes to create a mule (alt) and you can store all of the ingredients on that character. Problem solved. Just hit randomize on character creation, skip the wailing prison, and walk him/her into the bank.

When you need the 4 ingredients to do your daily provisioning writ, go to a cookfire, see what the 4 are, logout and back in with the mule who deposits just 1 of each of those 4 into the bank. Logout and back in to main who can now make those recipes. (bank is accessible from fire) Writ done.

When you need to cook up a large batch for self-use, do the same thing.

Provisioning, like everything else, will take a few skill points to make it useful. But like all the other lines, once you put some points into it, it really starts to pay off.

As far as finding ingredients, there are more crates, barrels, and sacks in the game than any other node, add to that food found on tables/countertops, and cabinets. I don't really understand why there are NPC "grocer" merchants nor who uses them.

I would be more than happy to sell any item that the grocers have on offer for half that price!!!

Honestly, right now Guild Traders are flooded with White Meat and Fish. It would be very simple to get a stack for a very low price and just use a basic recipe and crank out 200.

EddieHavok

WandaMey wrote: »

jarky wrote: »

I find that it's insanely difficult to find the recipes for provisioning writs. Where are you roast corn!?!?

you find lvl 1 recipes on noob islands (khenarti, bleakrock, stros...), but if you have leveled your skill just abandon your quest and retake it, it will ask for something else than roast corn.

Ohhhh, that makes sense. Here I was just waiting to find that damn Roast Corn recipe for my first writ, then I was going to get dedicated to provisioning, I'm lvl 40 currently with 75+ recipes, haha.

newtinmpls

I'm one who levels up provisioning fairly quickly on any given character; but then I'm also an altoholic, so at any given time I have a character dedicated to collecting/learning recipies & holding all the ingredients. If I have a recipe that character knows - I bank it and check other characters who might not know it. Result: slowly all my characters are learning all recipies.

Then every so often I switch out who is doing what, and pass on my hundreds of provision ingredients to the "next" character (the "number two" in terms of who I've been passing recipies to), start cookin' at a fire, keep putting points into upgrading what recipies I can do and slowly work it up.

Athas24

Boonie wrote: »

Provisioning was the quickest for me to level up. I did it by doing every delve, looting every barrel, crate, etc. go into houses and steal cheese, meat, vegetables off tables. You don't even have to launder them, you can craft with stolen items.

It sounds like you don't like to do that but it works. Just ravel back to town, store all the ingredients in your bank then go back and get more. All your crafting can be done anywhere in the world without taking the materials out of the bank so I don't see what the issue is.

My bank has every ingredient in it except perfect roe, most of them stacks of 200. It can be done without spending a cent on ingredients, might need to buy a recipe or 2 though.

I completely agree with the parts in bold. I never spent anything on my toon and I leveled from 1-50 in about 30 minutes to MAYBE an hour worth of crafting after saving up materials for like a week. As you level it you need to have the skill pts ready to put into it to do that but it works and it's pretty fast.
*edit was because I forgot... Writs also make it REALLY fast now a days*

Zachy_B

Hands down easiest profession.

BenevolentBowd

AtmaDarkwolf wrote: »

Really quite surprised nobody decided to tell me about the vender selling food items @ 10coin each though, found that odd.

I mentioned it in my reply above and provided a grocer list where you could find them. Although, most people thought that location was going to be fixed by now.

Daya

AtmaDarkwolf wrote: »

and everyone pretty much repeats my issue with it yet still brings up how fast/easy it is to level(when you HAVE the ingredients yes it IS easy)

My point was, and is the fact it eats up a metric ton of inventory space. Saving 200 slots worth of random food items you found isn't really efficient use of your space.

Really quite surprised nobody decided to tell me about the vender selling food items @ 10coin each though, found that odd.

Again its not the LACK of food to cook, its the absolute huge AMOUNT of different foods - IE inventory spots, that was my issue, and still think, regardless of how 'quick' it 'can' be leveled, it eats up way more space than the other professions.

I mean, ANY of the professions can be 'leveled' as fast/easily if you had all the items sitting in the bank ready to use, right?

People keep saying it, because it is true. If you could stop exaggerating for a minute, you could probably see it too.
There are 50 different ingredients (51 if you count the Roe). So it is indeed possible to find the space on either a mule or in the shared bank. 50 is really not that much, and some can be dumped after you have passed their usefulness. I think you said you already had 110 slots in the bank. Perhaps you need to prioritise what you have in the bank. Make a mule and let it carry some of the stuff you already have in your bank.

Just as a fun fact, I can tell you that there are 52 different runes.
For a blacksmith there are 9 types of ore, 9 types of ingot, 9 weapon traits, 9 armor traits, 11 common racial styles and 4 rare styles. Meaning that a blacksmith that want to be able to craft everything and provide everything for a customer, will need 51 slots.
If one is just concerned with leveling, this number can be reduced heavily, I admit that But that is true for all crafts, including provisioning.

I haven't played the game terrible long, but I also found provisioning easy, fast and cheap. I had the same problems as you with bank space in the start, but after creating another character to store stuff, cleaning the shared bank (deconstructing more or less worthless quest rewards) and buying some more space, I had the room for the materials. I had 110 slots in my shared bank for a long time.
Also remember that you should do provisioning writs, they give lots of materials. If you can't find the recipe for a particular writ, abandon it and see if you get something better the next day (the writs reroll every day). Writ recipes can be bought cheap in guild stores. I know I sell them myself for under 100g.

Take a deep breath, it is doable. It is absolutely doable. And there are only 50 provisioning writs you need to make room for. You can do that, if you really want to.

But I will admit, that fighting the inventory-management boss in ESO can be cumbersome. I have cursed it myself several times. I just don't see it as a provisioner problem, I see it as a general game problem (personal opinion).

edit: And as I press reply, I see others have already said what I posted above. I apologise for repeating, but the posts weren't there, when I started to write my reply. Honest!

Tarukmockto

BowD wrote: »

I mentioned it in my reply above and provided a grocer list where you could find them. Although, most people thought that location was going to be fixed by now.

Bite your tongue! Nothing here needs fixed, nothing here to see. Move along.

MilwaukeeScott

Create a Bank Toon. Instant 60 food slots.

helediron

I just leveled one alt to 50 in provisioning. This is how it's done:

Start your leveling by searching recipes from guild stores. Find some green recipes at improvement level 1, but try to find those which make food for player level 15. Next best is for level 10 but stay away from recipes making food or drink for character level 1 or 5. They all are at recipe improvement level 1 but the higher level recipes give way much more xp.

Pick also some recipes for recipe improvement 2 which make level 25 food or drink, imp3/level 35 and imp 4/level 45. Pick few alternatives so you can reuse ingredients at higher level.

When you have those recipes, just collect food for those recipes. Now you know exactly what to collect. For each level you need to do about hundred food/drink. Whenever you can, put a skill point to recipe improvement passive and switch to next level recipes.

That's it. You need a dozen recipes and about thousand ingredients. Recipes are cheap, around 50..100g each.

Loomis

I've played a month ... One level 41 character ... Everything else 7 or lower ...

I loot everything .... Takes a long time to level when you loot everything and go back to town to sell when full

I have two level 50 provisioners now and a crap ton of ingredients left over


So /shrug

Play style dictates this I think ... If your slow and loot everything you have no problem ... If your a power leveler or to impatient to slow down and loot everything you will have a problem

Asrien

I started provisioning at like, level 30. The way I leveled it was buy roaming the wilderness and farming cooking mats. It only took a few hours to fully level provisioning. I just crafted everything I had the mats for, rinse repeat and sell.

Volkodav

I enjoy provisioning.Its easy to level up. I'm like a packrat or a Magpie.I collect everything! XD

xerasia

I uh, I made a highly sortable, super nerdy spreadsheet for provisioning in an attempt to clean up inventory space now that I've leveled to 50 in provisioning. Sort and or filter by ingredient, effect, dish type etc etc. If you're interested, PM me and I'm happy to email it to you.
(all of that info is definitely available on the internet, but this sheet is a little more efficient if you're trying to figure out which foods your guildies need, or which ingredients you can stop stockpiling)

AtmaDarkwolf

well I did get to 50 and yes the 200 was a exaggeration(i meant 100 since I was also gathering potion stuffs, which.. i have quit doing lol)

Honestly, the best thing(and imo what should exist in EVERY town due to fact recipes are a 'limiter') are npc's that sell ing for 10 each (AKA the lizard girl, walks on ground i think her name was, in redfur(Spelling and locations likely all mistakes but anyone who cares can prob find her, only grocer in the town)

Got prov to 50 at stupid speed after I hit 30 (up to 30 was nightmarishly slow due to only having a ass ton of low level green recipes, but @ 30 and on I had a ton of blue recipes that really shot it up quick)

I still have to say that until one is 'rich' enough to afford a huge bank, attempting to do all crafting on a single toon (for ease's sake of not having to swap toons all the time) is a headache. 'crafter' packs would assist.

Still must say, that aside from enchanting(which is about 'even' with my characters difficulty, IE: can make purple Vet rank 5 enchants, crafter toon is VR 3 so its about right) the other crafting (Blacksmith/woodworking/clothing) are all maxed out (or 47) without really going ANY distance out of my way. Ever. Only recently I bothered with the 'hireling' skills(Btw very underwhelming results the last 2 days I have to say) or the 'glow-easy-to-see' skills. - all 3 of them are FAR ahead of what I 'need' (IE can craft max lv gear, any materials, epic or not, all skills capped, etc) - I will attempt, someday, to get into potion making, but I have to say I feel it may be 'slightly' easier than provisioning due to lack of the need for recipes(and imo, there should, if existing for cooking/brewing, be a need for alchemy formulas)

Brrrofski

If you think provisioning was a grind, try your hand at enchanting...

xaraan

I used to be a lot easier before they revamped it. Now it's still not hard, but the problems are exactly what you point out about not finding certain ingredients by easily running through barrels anymore. It makes a big difference if you just constantly search containers in dungeons and all now and build up stock, you end up with a lot more rare ingredients that way. So not as easy to level up in no time vs. how it used to be (unless you already have ingredients in banks or buy them from guild stores) but it is still easy to do it like you described your other crafts and level it up as you gather (level).

xaraan

I used to be a lot easier before they revamped it. Now it's still not hard, but the problems are exactly what you point out about not finding certain ingredients by easily running through barrels anymore. It makes a big difference if you just constantly search containers in dungeons and all now and build up stock, you end up with a lot more rare ingredients that way. So not as easy to level up in no time vs. how it used to be (unless you already have ingredients in banks or buy them from guild stores) but it is still easy to do it like you described your other crafts and level it up as you gather (level).

alexp0nential

I don't understand why they change the item weight system from solo TES games; provisions would weigh ounces, instead of taking up 1 slot of inventory space. This is just one of a few rather blaring changes they made from the other games that do not make much sense to me. They aren't necessary changes to make certain things work in an MMO, so I don't really understand why they changed them.

Brrrofski

But on the other hand 200 Ingots take up 1 space rather than 200 weight. It's a way better system

Darlgon

alexp0nential wrote: »

I don't understand why they change the item weight system from solo TES games; provisions would weigh ounces, instead of taking up 1 slot of inventory space. This is just one of a few rather blaring changes they made from the other games that do not make much sense to me. They aren't necessary changes to make certain things work in an MMO, so I don't really understand why they changed them.

Other TES games were made by Bethesda. This one is made by ZoS, a subset of Bethesda, as an MMO, so they dont follow the same rules, just try to exist in the same world. Look up some of the Lawrence Schick interviews, explaining how he works lore with the other TES loremaster.

Bacon

Ipsius wrote: »

I can't imagine spending a single cent on ingredients. Do people seriously do that?!

A lot of people seem to buy ingredients. I sell a bunch of them in 2 different guild stores for around 75g each. I almost never see anyone looting crates and barrels other than me and MAYBE 1 other person. I didn't think anyone would buy them either but I had a few extra spaces in my guild store and nothing to fill them with so i posted some ingredients that I had a ton of and they sold out fast. Been selling them like crazy ever since. Made enough gold selling ingredients that I was able to buy the bank space to store them all.

I have no alts and am trying to level up all crafts. YES, limited bank space makes it harder but you do have plenty of room for everything once you buy all the upgrades. Make a few alts and you should have more room than you will need.

Worgath

BowD wrote: »

Occassionally, you will find ingredients on the guild traders. The grocer prices are expensive so I wouldn't bother. However, there is one grocer in the Grahtwood region that sells everything for much cheaper. You can find a list of grocer locations on my blog. I visited them all within the last couple of weeks.

Informative blog for a new player, me like!

leepalmer95

Provisioning is by far the easiest, just get a few recipes so you use all your ingredients...

Craft the highest level you can