Additional Character Slots

Ipsius

Someone on the Internet was wrong!! SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE!!

Osteos

I would like more character slots.

starkerealm

Tonturri wrote: »

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

I had something like that in STO. Probably 18, actually, remembering how the factions broke down. Champions Online I... I don't even know. It was two full screens of characters. So somewhere north of 40. Never underestimate the power of alt addiction.

newtinmpls

starkerealm wrote: »

Also the part where, if I want to get someone else into the game, at this point, they need to go through most of the leveling content before they could actually play with me. ...

Not if you go to Cyrodiil.

I play my level 16 dunmer DK with my best friend's 48 breton templar ... quite a bit lately.

Or with another slot we could both start new characters and explore together.

Lylith

starkerealm wrote: »

Ipsius wrote: »

I never said nobody wants it...

Ipsius wrote: »

So many people = you and a handful of other people.

Yeah, technically you didn't say "nobody wants it."

Ipsius wrote: »

If you're willing to pay for more character slots, buy an extra copy of the game. Voila, 8 more character slots!

Which comes with it's own inconveniences, like having to reearn dyes you already have unlocked and building a new bank. Also the inability to pass some items between the accounts. Which would be fine by itself, but the whole thing slowly expands into an idiotic mess.

totally agree.

i have a second account, but i use it strictly for storage and guild store sales, atm. as you mentioned, dyes, bank, c/p, etc, don't transfer.

KiraTsukasa

Tonturri wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight..

To put what starkerealm said into a shorter sentence - just because you can't see it doesn't mean others can. Please respect that other people enjoy different ways of playing the game than you

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

Anyway, here's me tossing in my support for more character slots.

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

starkerealm

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

Here's one: They enjoy the game more than you.

Daya

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight. Perhaps if your chosen class, race, and gender changed how the story played out, but it doesn't. There are only three stories, all of which you can experience on a SINGLE character, and only four classes to vary gameplay. I've played several MMOs and none of them had more than eight character slots, even after purchasing extras, and none of them have ever needed more than that. Maybe there IS 240 different combinations of race, class, faction, and gender, but no one is EVER going to level 240 different characters.

I have also played a 'few' MMORPG's in my time and in most it was possible to buy extra slots (above 8 slots). On top of my head it is games like EQ2, DDO, Lotro, SWTOR, Neverwinter, GW2, Rift, DC Online and Star Trek Online. I'm sure there are more out there, but these are some of the well-known western MMORPG's.
So there are plenty of games that sell extra character slots in the western market.

Edit: I forgot that WoW also has more slots than 8. I don't think you can buy more though.

Zachy_B

Artemiisia wrote: »

for me this should be like they did in another mmo, where if you are a sub member you get 8 character slots, and if u stop paying for sub, only the first 4 count.

They could add like 1-2 more character slots for paying members, that would be seriously a decent/great perk to have

/agreealldayson

helediron

Hmm,
a maxed crafter, stamina nb, magicka nb, tank dk, dps dk, templar healer, stamplar, sorc, mule for all bound legendaries, getting crowded...

Most_Awesome

I think 8 slots is too much, as having 1 person in 8 different bodies is breaking my immersion

RDMyers65b14_ESO

I find it amusing how many people forget that this game is a rpg. RPers always need more slots for alts. I also need more guild slots as most RP guilds are not big enough for a guild store. Incidentally, I am running two accounts. Had to buy a second for bank space. I have maxed everything but alchemy and I refuse to delete a maxed crafter character especially if I have managed to get them to vr status.

ADarklore

In DCUO, you could buy as many additional character slots as you wanted, they encouraged playing alts.

Furthermore, those who say, "Why do you need more?" The main reason, not just because you wanted to play a variety of characters, but also for inventory space. Crafters who don't want to continuously make new armor and weapons for new characters along with needing space to hold all their materials... think of all the pieces of armor (heavy, medium, light), variety of weapons, jewelry, for multiple levels... I know I craft new gear for every four levels... it can take up inventory space really quickly. It always seems a waste to me to deconstruct when my Craft character is already maxed on what I craft; I'd rather store gear for if/when I create a new character.

So yes, having the ability to add multiple characters for the additional inventory space would be good to have. Plus, 'buying a separate account' is silly because that involves a lot more work (e-mailing back and forth between characters) than being able to transfer things via shared bank.

I don't see why, if other MMOs allow buying of additional character slots, that ESO cannot also implement it.

Loomis

Crown store .... 1 extra slot ... 10,000 crowns

Take as many as you like above 8

Zenimax uses extra influx of fundage to pay expenses of game

Win win for everyone

Tessie

We all have different play styles. As a solo PvE player, I would much rather earn CP through leveling alts from VR1 to VR14 than doing group content. Using multiple accounts dilutes CP gains. This is my primary reason for wanting slots on my main account.

As already mentioned, other accounts are much less convenient. Crown costumes, DLC, crown unlocks, mounts, and pets aren't shared across accounts.

I've always hated deleting a character I've invested so much time, and sometimes crowns into. Also, I like to keep alts around for writs, hirelings, etc.

So add me to the list of many people who want more character slots. I'm not suggesting this is the most important feature needed for this game, but it would sure be convenient for many players.

Farorin

I think having extra slots as a perk to ESO plus as someone mentioned earlier wold be a great idea, and if you cancel ESO plus those characters are still there just not accessible unless you reactivate, with the option of being able to buy those character slots in the crown store. I would seriously buy those slots with crowns.

I want more character slots because I want to have variation in my classes while having all my main versions of each class (2 variations of 4 classes takes 8 slots) playing in my preferred faction, with at least one of each class playing in my secondary faction just for when I want to change things up a bit sometimes, that is why I want character slots.

BabeestorGor

Loomis wrote: »

Crown store .... 1 extra slot ... 10,000 crowns

Take as many as you like above 8

Zenimax uses extra influx of fundage to pay expenses of game

Win win for everyone

This
I'd like 2 extra. I'd even buy the Imperial pack as well if I had a free slot to play an Imperial

UrQuan

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Tonturri wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight..

To put what starkerealm said into a shorter sentence - just because you can't see it doesn't mean others can. Please respect that other people enjoy different ways of playing the game than you

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

Anyway, here's me tossing in my support for more character slots.

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

So wanting to play each of the 10 playable races isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting to have characters at different levels so you can play PVE with friends who are at different levels isn't a legitimate reason? Enjoying certain quests (such as the main quest or guild quests) and wanting to go back and experience them with a different character isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting different characters for RP purposes isn't a legitimate reason?

So either you believe that all of those reasons aren't legitimate (in which case you've got a bad case of "everyone must only enjoy exactly the same things as I do, or they're wrong"), or you can't read, because each of those has already been brought up in this thread.

KiraTsukasa

UrQuan wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Tonturri wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight..

To put what starkerealm said into a shorter sentence - just because you can't see it doesn't mean others can. Please respect that other people enjoy different ways of playing the game than you

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

Anyway, here's me tossing in my support for more character slots.

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

So wanting to play each of the 10 playable races isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting to have characters at different levels so you can play PVE with friends who are at different levels isn't a legitimate reason? Enjoying certain quests (such as the main quest or guild quests) and wanting to go back and experience them with a different character isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting different characters for RP purposes isn't a legitimate reason?

So either you believe that all of those reasons aren't legitimate (in which case you've got a bad case of "everyone must only enjoy exactly the same things as I do, or they're wrong"), or you can't read, because each of those has already been brought up in this thread.

Considering that race change items are being worked on, wanting to play a different race is not a legitimate reason for more character slots. Especially not from a business stand point. If you're out of slots and want to play as different races, having people buy race changes is much more profitable than opening another character slot. Unless the cost of character slots is significant enough to warrant the loss of sales from race changes. Someone suggested 10,000 crowns for the cost of this. You realize that that is 100 US dollars? When the game costs 60, it's cheaper to make a new account. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to throw $100 at a game they already own and played at least once before.

So you have a main character that is high level. Perhaps you have a crafting character to make equipment for yourself. Now you want another character to level with friends? You're up to three characters now, which leaves five remaining slots open, which is still much less than eight. That's really not a compelling argument for more slots.

I enjoy a good story in a game just as much as the next person. I even have games that I have played multiple times. I'll admit that ESO's story is half decent. But I doubt anyone REALLY wants to sit through the game EIGHT times, let alone more than that, and if they did, then they can easily delete an alt character and create a new one, because they're more interested in the story, not the character. I might view that differently if race, gender, or class affected the outcome of the plot, but they don't. You can play the same story a hundred times if you want, but that does not warrant extra character slots when the characters don't matter.

And so your final reason falls to roleplaying? Exactly how many people do that? Less than 500 between all three platforms, I'd wager. 500 versus thousands of others. I really don't think that's worth putting the resources into for just a handful of people. At any rate, I know people who do roleplaying in games like this, and they do it pretty seriously. I've read some of their character bios as well and they are very creative people. But the busiest one that I know doesn't keep track of more than five characters at a time. Eventually, you get your details mixed up or lose track of where you're at in the different roleplays if you carry on with too many characters. At some point you gotta drop characters and stop using them for indefinite periods of time, sometimes to the point of it being pointless to pick that one up again. So then you just have dead weight in your account. Why the need for new slots when you can just drop the dead weight?

Something else that I don't think any of you are considering is the technical limitations of what you're suggesting. All of our character data is stored server side. And that storage space is not infinite. What happens when every account has the luxury of expanding the amount of storage space required for their account as much as they want? Eventually, that space is going to run out and we're going to have a server bogged down by accounts that aren't being played. Due to the server problems this weekend, I ended up going back to the last MMO that I played, only to find that they were in the process of deleting old unused characters due to lack of space after a server merge. While a server merge is nigh an improbability, having your characters arbitrarily deleted would anger you far more than not having an extra character slots.

BlazinAces30

ADarklore wrote: »

In DCUO, you could buy as many additional character slots as you wanted, they encouraged playing alts.

Furthermore, those who say, "Why do you need more?" The main reason, not just because you wanted to play a variety of characters, but also for inventory space. Crafters who don't want to continuously make new armor and weapons for new characters along with needing space to hold all their materials... think of all the pieces of armor (heavy, medium, light), variety of weapons, jewelry, for multiple levels... I know I craft new gear for every four levels... it can take up inventory space really quickly. It always seems a waste to me to deconstruct when my Craft character is already maxed on what I craft; I'd rather store gear for if/when I create a new character.

So yes, having the ability to add multiple characters for the additional inventory space would be good to have. Plus, 'buying a separate account' is silly because that involves a lot more work (e-mailing back and forth between characters) than being able to transfer things via shared bank.

I don't see why, if other MMOs allow buying of additional character slots, that ESO cannot also implement it.

What I was thinking as well

UrQuan

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Tonturri wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight..

To put what starkerealm said into a shorter sentence - just because you can't see it doesn't mean others can. Please respect that other people enjoy different ways of playing the game than you

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

Anyway, here's me tossing in my support for more character slots.

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

So wanting to play each of the 10 playable races isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting to have characters at different levels so you can play PVE with friends who are at different levels isn't a legitimate reason? Enjoying certain quests (such as the main quest or guild quests) and wanting to go back and experience them with a different character isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting different characters for RP purposes isn't a legitimate reason?

So either you believe that all of those reasons aren't legitimate (in which case you've got a bad case of "everyone must only enjoy exactly the same things as I do, or they're wrong"), or you can't read, because each of those has already been brought up in this thread.

Considering that race change items are being worked on, wanting to play a different race is not a legitimate reason for more character slots. Especially not from a business stand point. If you're out of slots and want to play as different races, having people buy race changes is much more profitable than opening another character slot. Unless the cost of character slots is significant enough to warrant the loss of sales from race changes. Someone suggested 10,000 crowns for the cost of this. You realize that that is 100 US dollars? When the game costs 60, it's cheaper to make a new account. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to throw $100 at a game they already own and played at least once before.

So you have a main character that is high level. Perhaps you have a crafting character to make equipment for yourself. Now you want another character to level with friends? You're up to three characters now, which leaves five remaining slots open, which is still much less than eight. That's really not a compelling argument for more slots.

I enjoy a good story in a game just as much as the next person. I even have games that I have played multiple times. I'll admit that ESO's story is half decent. But I doubt anyone REALLY wants to sit through the game EIGHT times, let alone more than that, and if they did, then they can easily delete an alt character and create a new one, because they're more interested in the story, not the character. I might view that differently if race, gender, or class affected the outcome of the plot, but they don't. You can play the same story a hundred times if you want, but that does not warrant extra character slots when the characters don't matter.

And so your final reason falls to roleplaying? Exactly how many people do that? Less than 500 between all three platforms, I'd wager. 500 versus thousands of others. I really don't think that's worth putting the resources into for just a handful of people. At any rate, I know people who do roleplaying in games like this, and they do it pretty seriously. I've read some of their character bios as well and they are very creative people. But the busiest one that I know doesn't keep track of more than five characters at a time. Eventually, you get your details mixed up or lose track of where you're at in the different roleplays if you carry on with too many characters. At some point you gotta drop characters and stop using them for indefinite periods of time, sometimes to the point of it being pointless to pick that one up again. So then you just have dead weight in your account. Why the need for new slots when you can just drop the dead weight?

Something else that I don't think any of you are considering is the technical limitations of what you're suggesting. All of our character data is stored server side. And that storage space is not infinite. What happens when every account has the luxury of expanding the amount of storage space required for their account as much as they want? Eventually, that space is going to run out and we're going to have a server bogged down by accounts that aren't being played. Due to the server problems this weekend, I ended up going back to the last MMO that I played, only to find that they were in the process of deleting old unused characters due to lack of space after a server merge. While a server merge is nigh an improbability, having your characters arbitrarily deleted would anger you far more than not having an extra character slots.

OK, this post just confirms that you're simply incapable of seeing things from any points of view other than your own. Unfortunately, that's something that's all too common on the forums. Being unable to comprehend why people would want to have a different character of each race rather than swapping the race of an existing character proves it right there.

KiraTsukasa

UrQuan wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Tonturri wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight..

To put what starkerealm said into a shorter sentence - just because you can't see it doesn't mean others can. Please respect that other people enjoy different ways of playing the game than you

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

Anyway, here's me tossing in my support for more character slots.

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

So wanting to play each of the 10 playable races isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting to have characters at different levels so you can play PVE with friends who are at different levels isn't a legitimate reason? Enjoying certain quests (such as the main quest or guild quests) and wanting to go back and experience them with a different character isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting different characters for RP purposes isn't a legitimate reason?

So either you believe that all of those reasons aren't legitimate (in which case you've got a bad case of "everyone must only enjoy exactly the same things as I do, or they're wrong"), or you can't read, because each of those has already been brought up in this thread.

Considering that race change items are being worked on, wanting to play a different race is not a legitimate reason for more character slots. Especially not from a business stand point. If you're out of slots and want to play as different races, having people buy race changes is much more profitable than opening another character slot. Unless the cost of character slots is significant enough to warrant the loss of sales from race changes. Someone suggested 10,000 crowns for the cost of this. You realize that that is 100 US dollars? When the game costs 60, it's cheaper to make a new account. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to throw $100 at a game they already own and played at least once before.

So you have a main character that is high level. Perhaps you have a crafting character to make equipment for yourself. Now you want another character to level with friends? You're up to three characters now, which leaves five remaining slots open, which is still much less than eight. That's really not a compelling argument for more slots.

I enjoy a good story in a game just as much as the next person. I even have games that I have played multiple times. I'll admit that ESO's story is half decent. But I doubt anyone REALLY wants to sit through the game EIGHT times, let alone more than that, and if they did, then they can easily delete an alt character and create a new one, because they're more interested in the story, not the character. I might view that differently if race, gender, or class affected the outcome of the plot, but they don't. You can play the same story a hundred times if you want, but that does not warrant extra character slots when the characters don't matter.

And so your final reason falls to roleplaying? Exactly how many people do that? Less than 500 between all three platforms, I'd wager. 500 versus thousands of others. I really don't think that's worth putting the resources into for just a handful of people. At any rate, I know people who do roleplaying in games like this, and they do it pretty seriously. I've read some of their character bios as well and they are very creative people. But the busiest one that I know doesn't keep track of more than five characters at a time. Eventually, you get your details mixed up or lose track of where you're at in the different roleplays if you carry on with too many characters. At some point you gotta drop characters and stop using them for indefinite periods of time, sometimes to the point of it being pointless to pick that one up again. So then you just have dead weight in your account. Why the need for new slots when you can just drop the dead weight?

Something else that I don't think any of you are considering is the technical limitations of what you're suggesting. All of our character data is stored server side. And that storage space is not infinite. What happens when every account has the luxury of expanding the amount of storage space required for their account as much as they want? Eventually, that space is going to run out and we're going to have a server bogged down by accounts that aren't being played. Due to the server problems this weekend, I ended up going back to the last MMO that I played, only to find that they were in the process of deleting old unused characters due to lack of space after a server merge. While a server merge is nigh an improbability, having your characters arbitrarily deleted would anger you far more than not having an extra character slots.

OK, this post just confirms that you're simply incapable of seeing things from any points of view other than your own. Unfortunately, that's something that's all too common on the forums. Being unable to comprehend why people would want to have a different character of each race rather than swapping the race of an existing character proves it right there.

You're right. I'm not looking at this from YOUR point of view. I'm looking at it objectively, which is what the creators of the game have to do. Unfortunately, all you want to do is demand that I take your side and when I don't you just try to insult me and say I can't think. In fact, I do put careful thought into what I say and if I disagree with you, it's for good reason.

Zorrashi

Personally I don't see how anyone needs anything above 8 slots. But I'm not opposed to adding more. But I would prefer the cap to be around, say, 13 slots? 15?

It would be cool if one additional slot was earned when you get one character to VR rank (to a limited cap.) and then charge cash for anything above that (which has a hard cap).

UrQuan

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Tonturri wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I can't see a legitimate reason why you would need more than eight..

To put what starkerealm said into a shorter sentence - just because you can't see it doesn't mean others can. Please respect that other people enjoy different ways of playing the game than you

I know someone who had 17 character slots in guild wars 2, and still counting - I also managed to get them to buy ESO a couple weeks ago >.> So, yeah...it really could be a decent revenue generator. Mind, 17 slots isn't the norm, even among my circle of friends, but still.

Anyway, here's me tossing in my support for more character slots.

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

So wanting to play each of the 10 playable races isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting to have characters at different levels so you can play PVE with friends who are at different levels isn't a legitimate reason? Enjoying certain quests (such as the main quest or guild quests) and wanting to go back and experience them with a different character isn't a legitimate reason? Wanting different characters for RP purposes isn't a legitimate reason?

So either you believe that all of those reasons aren't legitimate (in which case you've got a bad case of "everyone must only enjoy exactly the same things as I do, or they're wrong"), or you can't read, because each of those has already been brought up in this thread.

Considering that race change items are being worked on, wanting to play a different race is not a legitimate reason for more character slots. Especially not from a business stand point. If you're out of slots and want to play as different races, having people buy race changes is much more profitable than opening another character slot. Unless the cost of character slots is significant enough to warrant the loss of sales from race changes. Someone suggested 10,000 crowns for the cost of this. You realize that that is 100 US dollars? When the game costs 60, it's cheaper to make a new account. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to throw $100 at a game they already own and played at least once before.

So you have a main character that is high level. Perhaps you have a crafting character to make equipment for yourself. Now you want another character to level with friends? You're up to three characters now, which leaves five remaining slots open, which is still much less than eight. That's really not a compelling argument for more slots.

I enjoy a good story in a game just as much as the next person. I even have games that I have played multiple times. I'll admit that ESO's story is half decent. But I doubt anyone REALLY wants to sit through the game EIGHT times, let alone more than that, and if they did, then they can easily delete an alt character and create a new one, because they're more interested in the story, not the character. I might view that differently if race, gender, or class affected the outcome of the plot, but they don't. You can play the same story a hundred times if you want, but that does not warrant extra character slots when the characters don't matter.

And so your final reason falls to roleplaying? Exactly how many people do that? Less than 500 between all three platforms, I'd wager. 500 versus thousands of others. I really don't think that's worth putting the resources into for just a handful of people. At any rate, I know people who do roleplaying in games like this, and they do it pretty seriously. I've read some of their character bios as well and they are very creative people. But the busiest one that I know doesn't keep track of more than five characters at a time. Eventually, you get your details mixed up or lose track of where you're at in the different roleplays if you carry on with too many characters. At some point you gotta drop characters and stop using them for indefinite periods of time, sometimes to the point of it being pointless to pick that one up again. So then you just have dead weight in your account. Why the need for new slots when you can just drop the dead weight?

Something else that I don't think any of you are considering is the technical limitations of what you're suggesting. All of our character data is stored server side. And that storage space is not infinite. What happens when every account has the luxury of expanding the amount of storage space required for their account as much as they want? Eventually, that space is going to run out and we're going to have a server bogged down by accounts that aren't being played. Due to the server problems this weekend, I ended up going back to the last MMO that I played, only to find that they were in the process of deleting old unused characters due to lack of space after a server merge. While a server merge is nigh an improbability, having your characters arbitrarily deleted would anger you far more than not having an extra character slots.

OK, this post just confirms that you're simply incapable of seeing things from any points of view other than your own. Unfortunately, that's something that's all too common on the forums. Being unable to comprehend why people would want to have a different character of each race rather than swapping the race of an existing character proves it right there.

You're right. I'm not looking at this from YOUR point of view. I'm looking at it objectively, which is what the creators of the game have to do. Unfortunately, all you want to do is demand that I take your side and when I don't you just try to insult me and say I can't think. In fact, I do put careful thought into what I say and if I disagree with you, it's for good reason.

You're clearly not looking at anything objectively. You're looking at it from the point of view that your way of looking at things is the only way that matters. Never mind how many people on these forums have brought up this exact topic over and over... Clearly none of their concerns are valid because @KiraTsukasa says so.

Dysturbed

Hi my name is Larry and I am an altaholic. I have tried rehab, intervention and group counseling but every time I play a new game the old habits take control. I can never have enough character slots....

Gidorick

Hi Larry.

badmojo

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Then you're going to have to explain it to me. Give me a legitimate reason why someone would need more than four characters on ESO.

I want at least 1 character of each class, in each faction.

starkerealm

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Considering that race change items are being worked on, wanting to play a different race is not a legitimate reason for more character slots. Especially not from a business stand point.

Ooooh, so that's what you're asking about. Well, fortunately the answer is almost simple enough for you to understand it. People will pay money for this. Not at $100 a slot. That as @Loomis saying, "shaddap so I can get some sleep." But at 500 Crowns, you can believe that ZoS would make more money than it would cost them in increased account management overhead for additional slots.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

So you have a main character that is high level. Perhaps you have a crafting character to make equipment for yourself. Now you want another character to level with friends? You're up to three characters now, which leaves five remaining slots open, which is still much less than eight. That's really not a compelling argument for more slots.

So, yesterday it was inconceivable that people would have more than 4 characters. Today you can't believe anyone would have more than 3. At the rate you're going, by Tuesday you'll be saying it's impossible to understand why someone would ever roll up a character in this game at all.

Yeah, sounds legit.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

But I doubt anyone REALLY wants to sit through the game EIGHT times...

Well, you have people in this thread who are telling you they'd pay for the privilege. So clearly your grasp on human behavior is not as strong as you hoped it was.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

...then they can easily delete an alt character and create a new one...

Because there's absolutely no, literal cash investment in characters.

Fun trivia, there is litterally no character on my account that has less than 40k gold in upgrades. Yeah, no, let me just flush that for your ego... no, wait.

To say nothing of the players who have spent real money on their characters via the Crown store. That one doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not about to pretend they don't exist.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I might view that differently if race, gender, or class affected the outcome of the plot, but they don't.

Except, of course, your decisions do impact the outcome. So it's not quite the same thing as saying you can experience the same thing over and over and over. You can actually get different outcomes. This isn't the definition of insanity.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

You can play the same story a hundred times if you want, but that does not warrant extra character slots when the characters don't matter.

I'm glad you think my characters are worthless. It sets an objective standard for the value of your post.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

And so your final reason falls to roleplaying? Exactly how many people do that? Less than 500 between all three platforms, I'd wager. 500 versus thousands of others.

Yeah, god, I wish. Given the number I run into when I'm just derping around with provisioning, that number is very conservative delusional. At least on PC.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

I really don't think...

That much is self evident.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

Something else that I don't think any of you are considering is the technical limitations of what you're suggesting. All of our character data is stored server side. And that storage space is not infinite. What happens when every account has the luxury of expanding the amount of storage space required for their account as much as they want? Eventually, that space is going to run out and we're going to have a server bogged down by accounts that aren't being played. Due to the server problems this weekend, I ended up going back to the last MMO that I played, only to find that they were in the process of deleting old unused characters due to lack of space after a server merge. While a server merge is nigh an improbability, having your characters arbitrarily deleted would anger you far more than not having an extra character slots.

Ah, but you seem to have forgotten. The entire idea is to pay for more character slots. If the game is actually not capable of handling the additional strain, then there is a something seriously rotten in the state of Denmark Maryland.

If people were saying, "give us this for free" then you might have a point. But, again the interest here is to have another thing to spend money on.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

You're right. I'm not looking at this from YOUR point of view. I'm looking at it objectively...

I regret to inform you, that's not what "objectively" means. Nothing in this thread from you has been remotely objective. Sad? Yeah, kinda. In a, "why won't you just do what I tell you to," kind of way. But not objective.

Buck up, someday you'll be right about something. It's inevitable. The law of probability will shine on you. Sadly, it's not this one.

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

...you just try to insult me and say I can't think.

Nah, I do other things, too. Your posts are the ones that make me think this might just be the case, however.

Clarebear

For MMO's Especially I have always thuoght that you should be able to have enough character slots to have.... 1 of every race or 1 of each class per alliance/faction whichever is the greater number of character slots. Which in the Case of ESO currently means that I think with the current number of classes and races we should get 12 character slots. There are only 10 races but 3 alliances and 4 classes per alliance.

Yes I feel we need more character slots and the cap currently unless they add more races or classes should be 12 character slots.

starkerealm

@KiraTsukasa Look, I get it. You've been playing for less than two months. That's not a long time to rush out and fill up your roster.

I have characters that were rolled up over a year ago. It took about five months to fill out the eight slots, and my most recent character was created before you even knew the game existed.

Now, you can dictate whatever terms you like on how you think a newbie should play the game. But, truth is, I've been playing since before Craglorn was a thing, when endgame was Cadwell's Gold and Cryodiil. When Cyrodiil was VR10, and bots roamed the streets of Windhelm, phasing through walls to farm gold.

Fact is, I've got my Stripped Senche and my Mannimarco costume and I know more about how this game works then you do.

When you've been playing for a year and run out of characters, then you can come in here and say, "yeah, I think y'all should just delete all yer characters, cuz they don't mean nuttin' ta me."