NON Vet Campaign Issues

TrigmaGaming

Ok so i'm kind of new to ESO, i just started but i have skill (PvP Skill) despite that i enter Non vet campaign to get better at PvP and ultimately enjoy the pvp aspect of this game without facing people with hundreds of CP(i have skill right now not CP) but i came to realize that if i'm in non vet campaign or not, i will face players with TONS of CP in non vet because players have the ability to apply the same CP they have on a VR14 character to a level 10 character that they create or level 40 or 30. With this being said many others including myself cannot not enjoy PvP unless we grind out CP in PvE to compete, and i say PvE because you can only gain CP as a vet and you have to join regular campaigns to gain CP while PvPing with players that surely have TONS of CP but not always TONS of Skill , so a clean fix would be to only allow players to apply CP to characters that are VR1 and above ONLY. To allow Non vet campaigns to strive and become viable for players who are trying to enjoy PvP on a lower level to get better and hopefully exit non vet with enough skill to do so. Oh and one more thing, vet players who have vet characters are able to farm AP easily in non vet campaign by creating another character apply hundreds of CP to that character group up with friends who do the same thing and well you know the rest.....

TrigmaGaming

This makes Non Vet campaign "The Farm Campaign" for experienced players with lots of CP

TrigmaGaming

If you can only gain CP at vet level, you should only be able to apply CP at vet level.

Sozzy

Agreed with the no CP in non-veteran. It's ridiculous that CP carry over but horse riding training doesn't.

ced30

kinda out of topic but this : "i just started but i have skill" made me laugh
So, you're like .. a skilled noob? lol

laksikus

no CP in nonvet would be a good point, BUT...

there arent that many people in BWB with hundreds of CP.
you have pvp skill: sounds funny. with no vet char, and probably on your first pvp char. That would mean you lack experience, not cp.

Not everyone that kills you in 5 hits or survives long against you have tons of CP

ced30

laksikus wrote: »

That would mean you lack experience, not cp.

Not everyone that kills you in 5 hits or survives long against you have tons of CP

This.

TrigmaGaming

Sorry but it takes up to 4+ people to kill me at lvl 42 with almost no CP and i have had vet characters i switched from console pc despite that there is always a possibility of people having alot more cp than me in non vet campaign thats the point im trying to make and i only get killed by groups who as i see come to farm ppl with less CP than them not skill


FYI lately i have been playing PTS in imperial city doing quite well i watch syherpk everyday and now king richard i die from jabs and npcs mostly , trust me im no top pvper in ESO yet i dont really duel just yet just finishing mastering the basics and trying different setups, and who said i died in 5 hits lol and im not a noob at all ...nd please guys dont compare me to you i lack exp not skill do you know the difference ?Experience = Time played to learn......Skill= the ability to pvp greatly with what u have in a balanced scenario, the pvp in this game is not balanced therefore skill is defined in the least way .Oh and how does a noob make a post like this ????Know yourself

TrigmaGaming

Cmon im not the bad guy here just take a look two skeleton polymorphs which is only accessible in EP zone in shadowfen and i remind you that im playing in DC faction so they would have to have been on Cadwells gold on another char to have gotten that meaning that god knows how much cp they have and it maybe alot or a little dont know

Next photo this guy killed me twice in a row im just like at first man he is hitting hard i look at he name and his hits he was hitting hard af then i see him crit rushing a dude i went after him then i got this on the recap lol justification to the fullest and i remind you this is in Non vet campaign

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I just want to pvp with people at my level to see how good i am and how i can improve and to measure success in pvp but with ppl like this running around im not sure how to determine any of it...done posting here

TrigmaGaming

not sure how posting images work exactly but you need to see this


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ced30

Looks like you just met some people better than you and you're mad about it.
Next time maybe, you'll spend less time bragging about your amazing pvp skills and learn about actual game mechanics to improve your gaming.
Btw , theres no such thing as cod trickshots in Eso, your "skill" won't save you from your lack of experience, its all about applying the right reaction to the enemy's actions and becoming pro-active, how are you doing that if you didnt spend some time learning different class mechanics and how to counter them?

You're no special snowflake, everyone becomes hard to kill around lvl40+ in blackater, and depending on the class you're playing, it makes you even harder to kill (sorcs and magicka nb for exemples can take out groups by themselves in non vet campaign, with no uber pvp skill or lots of cp involved).

Cp wont turn a bad player into a demi god, they help but thats not the "i win" feature.

You have to upload your screenshots on a hosting website to link them on the forum.

Finally, if you're so pissed about cp in blackwater, why dont you just hit vet lvl and switch to another campaign? its not like you're forced to stay into bw forever anyways.

Master_Fluff

TrigmaGaming, you need to upload your screenshots to Photobucket or some other imagehost site. You can't upload pictures to this forum.

And as allready stated earlier by one of my guildmates, not everyone in Blackwater has hundreds of CP.

TrigmaGaming

I would like to apologize for such a bias opinion and the people who have replied to this thread.

Rylana

Look mate, I dont know you and I dont claim much about anything regarding you...

That being said, the statement implying youre a skilled n00b pretty much lost you all credibility. It took most of us months and then some to get to the nitty gritty of this game, its actually quite complicated mechanically under the hood

From what your OP says, you need to learn counters to skills, active abilities to buff or purge yourself, and passives build strategies that limit the scope of what youre experiencing.

But I am sure you know all of these already? For you are highly skilled...



PROTIP: The whole CP debate is overblown at its core anyway. By the time youre at 200 CP youve already obtained roughly half of the passives (assuming you spread evenly) youd ever get at 3600 anyway, minus the unlocked passives but those are high enough in tier that specialization is required that limits scope there as well.

remember, the difference between 20 points in a star (10 percent), and 100 points in a star (25%) is five times the investment for 2.5 times the reward.