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We need a race change!

Heartless-Zaire
Everyone who is a nord or argonian is complaining about their race and even others are complaining about their mistake in their choice of race. When many began playing Elder Scrolls Online they were not certain as to what exactly to pick as a race. I am a great example, I picked nord because I liked two handed but once I reached vet level 14 I realized many had a huge advantage over me pve and in pvp. I have to use provisioning items to get even relatively near other players like high elf, imperial, breton, and everything else besides argonians (no offense) since they have amazing passives. Now why would I ,after reaching level cap, try to make an alt? I don't have time to waste like that. I'm sorry if the tone in this post is rude that really was not my intention. My goal through this post is to get a race change option.
  • Jaigo
    Jaigo
    Soul Shriven
    So if I just started of as a Nord I am better of rerolling now??
    I am really worried I should have gone Redguard for DK tank.

    I bet they will make it available at some point...
    for a price in crowns of course.
  • Zanen
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    I actually think Nords are under-rated as tanks, moreso in the 1.7 meta.

    But redguard is looking really strong now with block changes.

    I have a Redguard DK I was sure I wanted to change to Dunmer until the IC pts, with the way they make mechanical changes they'd be selling race changes every update.

  • Heartless-Zaire
    I will say if the idea is to be a tank then yes the nord is "OK" but it still fails in comparison to most if not all imperials since they have amazing passives to go with tanking like increase max health by 12% or the increase max stamina by 12%. it makes a difference. Sure the nords have the rugged passive ,somewhat useful, but 6% is definitely to low of a number. if it was 12% on the other hand the rugged passive would start making things even . Also making that 3% max health increase into a 6% max health increase would help. With those increases in the passives I think the nord would be fixed.
  • Winterpsy
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    Have no problem tanking with a nord DK at vet level 10. I find him unkillable pretty much. There are ways to gimp a race and there are ways to get the most out of them. Nord passive that reduces incoming damage synergies well with tanking role. Also in solo PvE help you if you are cleaving through mobs with a big@ss maul. :smiley:
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    Stealthy argonian witch templar - Healer (lowbie)
  • Jaigo
    Jaigo
    Soul Shriven
    What morph do you use on cleave?

    I still decided to stick with Nord... Although others might have an edge.
    I look cool and enjoy playing. I wanted a barbarian style. So I learn to live with it.
    Plus it would be boring only to see imperials

    Who knows what a next patch will bring.
  • Winterpsy
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    Started with brawler which is very nice. Then I switched now to the other morph to get some more trash mob clearing ability. I'll switch back eventually to brawler. Even though that damage shield is not a lot, weaving in a brawler strike at every second third attack gives me a bit of cushion to mitigate damage.
    Big fat Nord Dragon knight with a huge hammer. - Tank
    Stealthy argonian witch templar - Healer (lowbie)
  • omfgitsbatman
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    This one definitely wants to see a race change since there is no meaningful change to Argonians coming any time soon. I picked Argonian for the potion passives and the synergy with the nb and alchemy passives. Before 1.6, an argonian NB with Alchemy was actually a pretty viable and cool way to play. With 1.6, every potion passive in the game got changed and the synergy just isn't there anymore. It was a huge change, and made argonians pretty well obsolete. The only argonians that are taking any real advantage of their passives are tanks... and that is a huge stretch with how good the passives are on other races such as imperial.

    but hey, we can bloody swim fast...

    Please give us a race change. I am not asking for a free race change... I pretty much know that it won't happen. I would gladly purchase one from the crown store. I am positive that my people besides myself would as well. It's a pretty large revenue potential.
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  • Zsymon
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    Winterpsy wrote: »
    Started with brawler which is very nice. Then I switched now to the other morph to get some more trash mob clearing ability. I'll switch back eventually to brawler. Even though that damage shield is not a lot, weaving in a brawler strike at every second third attack gives me a bit of cushion to mitigate damage.

    Actually, by spamming Brawler back to back you can solo an unlimited amount of monsters.

    I tested it a while ago with 30+ monsters in the Craglorn mines. All I did was spam Brawler and in the end everything was dead, without me getting hit once.
  • pepperybrine
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    I like Nords because they are large and they look powerfull, so I would NEVER change my race, but an buff for argonians/nords would be great!
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  • Junkogen
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    Jaigo wrote: »
    So if I just started of as a Nord I am better of rerolling now??
    I am really worried I should have gone Redguard for DK tank.

    I bet they will make it available at some point...
    for a price in crowns of course.

    You might not always want to be a tank, though.

    Reroll (and wear Nord armor). Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but some day you'll thank me.
    Edited by Junkogen on August 7, 2015 3:53PM
  • dabulls7491
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    No.
  • Anorak
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    Honestly I don't want race changes I just don't want race to contribute to more than 1k dps and surviving vs dying. I think that races should add a unique bonus to what the race is know for without making it something that is a must have or will boost your dps or sustainability enough to make you survive or pull more than 1k dps than someone else.
  • AshTal
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    I would like to see improved passives for the crappier races but even looking at the changes for Argonians they still look under powered a as such next best thing race and name change.
  • Cathexis
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    As I've said in other race change threads, since 1.6 hybrid and health oriented races are second class citizens.

    Racials should have been completely rebalanced with the build polarization in 1.6.
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  • lolzbuckets
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    I think a swim speed bonus on ESO is funny, because it is the mostly flatly useless benefit possible in any PVP scenario. For anyone unaware, I say that because entering a body of water anywhere in Cyrodiil is an invitation to get eaten by slaughterfish.

    I love this plan. Is best plan.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Well it's not that Argonian passive in the lore sucks it's the ZoS never added them in the lore of the lore based game we play Argonian are calm, stealthy gurilla fighters that are skilled with magic and blades. Yet we have no stealth bonus, no kind of hit and run power, no weapon or magic bonus we did get one lore bonus and that swim speed never needed in PvE, pure death in PvP if the fish don't kill you an stun or CC while swimming is unbreakable meaning death in coming in needs to changes of all of our passive it's the most hated you can keep the potion bonus please change the swimming speed no one will miss it or complain about it, it was cool to finally swim faster without a mod but it doesn't hold up and weakens the whole race
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  • AshTal
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    Swim speed should be a side bonus for Argonians and not count towards how good the racial bonus is. If need be it should be removed and as said by many people the restore when drinking a potion should be replaced by something good. The restore from a potion would really need to be 50 % to be any use. I would still prefer something useful that doesn't t need potions
  • DonDruid
    DonDruid
    Hi

    I have played as Imperial from start. I can not se any reason for any changes of any race passive!! There should not be a possibility to change race in any way!! If you pickt Argonian or Nord.. Be a man and deal with it!!

    //Imperial
  • rb2001
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    This is an RPG. How can your RACE change? Why..
  • joshisanonymous
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    I'm very much for the idea that choices matter to some degree, and my cut-off for choices that matter definitely includes one's choice of race.

    Y'all need to watch ESO Live once in a while, though. In the one of the last two episodes they talked about improving Argonians while keeping them focused on regeneration and also about making it more viable to focus on health instead of just magicka and stamina.
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  • Mitchblue
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    I would love to play a Nord but hear so many unflattering things.. As far as race change, I wouldn't mind. You start a character with an idea of what weapon you want to use, mana vs stamina build and then change your mind.. Some races it's not so bad, others it's really bad.
    Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?
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