The use of only 2h skill line attacks.

a.skelton92

Hello everyone,

My question is; can you choose to use only the abilities from the 2h skill line and yet still be effective at higher levels? Or am I always destined to be something "magical" as this game lacks a 'physical' based CLASS not skill line?

Every class in some way shape or form is forced to use gimmicky spells/ animations such as growing dragon wings, flying about the place or turning themselves into lightning etc etc.. NB (i was hoping assassination) was goinng to provide me with more physical abilities. However, it turns out that you cannot even stab someone using one of their abilities without your character "summoning" a magical blade despite using 2h weapons.

Can 'one' choose to use only physical ability skill lines such as sword and shield or two handed and yet still be effective? I was thinking, maybe using the full 2 handed weapon skill set along with abilities such as immovable, vigor, war horn etc?

I would love to hear what you more experienced players have to say and thank you for putting up with my rant.

Skiserony

Yes, in both PvE and PvE using physical attacks is viable and very effective.

It's completely your choice if you want to go magical or physical.

If you'd want some help with your build we'd need some more information though.

Alucardo

I'm also quite interested in this.

I haven't really entered the PvP zone yet - enjoying the game too much. However, I've lived off a 2h weapon the entire time (VR1 now). The only sorc spell I really use is Crit Surge for extra weapon damage and minor heals, and the passive to reduce my Ultimate abilities by 15% so I can use my Werewolf more often. The rest is 2h skill tree, and only 2 spells from that really.
As I run into larger mobs of enemies I'm finding it difficult, because you don't really have much in the way of AoE with 2h. So you're constantly keeping crit surge up then forward momentum to get your heals, and uppercut to get some distance. I'm finding it extremely easy with bosses though - they go down pretty fast with this setup. I can't recommend WW enough for these type of stam builds, though. If you're getting into a tricky situation, just bust out your beast which has better AoE capabilities and self heals.

a.skelton92

Skiserony wrote: »

Yes, in both PvE and PvE using physical attacks is viable and very effective.

It's completely your choice if you want to go magical or physical.

If you'd want some help with your build we'd need some more information though.

Hmm, well to be honest I have not really thought in depth about what build exactly i will be doing. Only that basically he will not be using any class abilities apart from molten weapons. All his skills will be 2h and on his second bar he will have buffs etc, immovable, vigor, momentum and any other buff abilities not really considered magical (assault skill tree etc). He will be using heavy armor.

I am just so desperate to play a 'normal' character and everything always just seems so flamboyant. There is always something really satisfying and more "bad ass" about playing a normal warrior archetype class in a game where everyone is flying about spewing every colour of the rainbow out from every orifice.

Jbugz97

yes you can 2h skills or one of the hardest hitting skill lines in the game at the moment with self heal. and weapon buff just mix it with some of your class skill and 7 medium armor and your good to go

Dekkameron

I have a stam DK that has 4 2handed abilities on one bar and 3 bow abilities on the other and they do well enough.

yodased

All your buffs are magic and you are a dk without using dragon blood why? Also the momentum skill in 2h is completely not physical based.

You kind of have to accept that this is a fantasy world where you have to use a ltamonte least a bit of magic to survive.

Trying to pvp with no shields and no heals is suicide to the 10th degree

Dekkameron

yodased wrote: »

All your buffs are magic and you are a dk without using dragon blood why? Also the momentum skill in 2h is completely not physical based.

You kind of have to accept that this is a fantasy world where you have to use a ltamonte least a bit of magic to survive.

Trying to pvp with no shields and no heals is suicide to the 10th degree

If you're referring to me, i have GDB and Reflective scales on the bow bar and what do you mean about Rally not being "completely not physical based"?

a.skelton92

yodased wrote: »

All your buffs are magic and you are a dk without using dragon blood why? Also the momentum skill in 2h is completely not physical based.

You kind of have to accept that this is a fantasy world where you have to use a ltamonte least a bit of magic to survive.

Trying to pvp with no shields and no heals is suicide to the 10th degree

I understand what you mean but that is what I meant by 'considered to be magical'. The very word 'momentum' allows me to assume he is not "casting a spell" but rather a physical increase to his power through momentum in battle, almost like adrenaline. Hes not casting any lightning crap, not growing any bloody spikes from his back or any of that ***, ha.

I understand and "accept" that in the 'ESO' specific fantasy world there are no normal warriors and you are either a wizard that uses staff and robe or a wizard that uses heavy armour and a sword. But underneath it all we are all wizards, which is silly.

Aett_Thorn

I do something similar with my Templar, and it works just fine. The only 'spells' I use are Repentance, which looks more like a prayer or a battle cry, explosive charge (which could be replaced by critical rush), and Empowering Sweep, which still uses a 'weapon', and if you are using a two-handed weapon basically just looks like you are charging it up versus using true magic.

The second bar is mainly buffs, like Rally, Evil Hunter, and Evasion.

Skiserony

yodased wrote: »

Also the momentum skill in 2h is completely not physical based.

Momentum from 2H is considered physical and not magical, it scales of stamina and weapon damage.

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

Yes, in both PvE and PvE using physical attacks is viable and very effective.

It's completely your choice if you want to go magical or physical.

If you'd want some help with your build we'd need some more information though.

Hmm, well to be honest I have not really thought in depth about what build exactly i will be doing. Only that basically he will not be using any class abilities apart from molten weapons. All his skills will be 2h and on his second bar he will have buffs etc, immovable, vigor, momentum and any other buff abilities not really considered magical (assault skill tree etc). He will be using heavy armor.

I am just so desperate to play a 'normal' character and everything always just seems so flamboyant. There is always something really satisfying and more "bad ass" about playing a normal warrior archetype class in a game where everyone is flying about spewing every colour of the rainbow out from every orifice.

You don't have to play a normal character at all, you probably won't be as efficient as other 'normal' builds but it's no must. However with the Ravager set (heavy armor from pvp) combined with a melee build is actually pretty strong and viable for endgame content.

This game gives you the perfect oppertunity to try new things, so just try. If you want to be a 2H wielder with heavy armor, you do that and it's actually pretty effective I've seen. So I suppose you want to wear twice 2H? If not Dual Wield might be a good secondary bar, it has the best AoE in the game.

Also, are you reffering to PvE or PvP, because both are completely different playstyles.