New Tel Var Stone gear - Armor only, NO weapons! Inside scoop inside!

Teiji

Included image featuring appearance of lots of items. Alliance weapons included.

Are you excited at not being able to obtain weapons?

How do you feel about Tel Var Stones gear only being 6 item sets, 2 for light, medium and heavy respectively - with no weapons.

I'd assumed the weapons would be in the purple random boxes only, but after reading IMPERIAL CITY GUIDE: TEL VAR STONES it seems to be only armor.

I'd love for Zenimax to correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm not however I'll quietly be disappointed at the repeated use of new weapons in screenshots which appears to have been made only for screenshot props.

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Ladies and gentlemen it's that time again! More huge plot holes they don't want you to know about!

On the 12th of this month we were told that Tel Var Stone vendors were selling weapons through a development article;
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Presenting Tel Var Stone merchants;

General Tel Var Stone merchant:

Armourer Tel Var Stone merchant:

Greater armourer Tel Var Stone merchant:

Tel Var Stone lockbox merchant:

Tel Var Stone greater lockbox merchant:

What do all these have in common?

No weapons!





I'd like to point out that you can see several prop weapons in all of the screenshots.



Patch notes indicating Tel Var merchants do not sell weapons.

Sausage

Maybe weapons are next thing to grind after IC? That would make sense so they have a future plan too. Weapons from Orsinium, maybe. Orcs are master smiths so it makes sense. I started to drool already, imagine some customizable weapons with runes and such. This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. You get the idea.

Teiji

Sausage wrote: »

Maybe weapons are next thing to grind after IC? That would make sense so they have a future plan too. Weapons from Orsinium, maybe. Orcs are master smiths so it makes sense.

Maybe Sausage; perhaps the next Imperial City update will be weapon sets specifically? Who knows.

I'm a bit disappointed to not see one heavy armor set for aggressive players, one heavy armor set for defensive players, I posted this on PTS section already but meh, maybe they'll make something like 5/5 heavy similar to Ravager but for magicka players? Perhaps in 2016, which isn't too far away, but probably PvE gear without the cool faction-armor look.

I envisioned heavy armor which would allow players to engage in heroic fights like was shown in the cinematic trailers for ESO, damage reduction when CC'd isn't all that exciting but anywhoo I digress.

I just don't want the novelty of Tel Var Stones to be a novelty, it seems like it will be a good source of XP and crafting materials which you will sell for gold as Guild Stores become full of faction gear for a month, never to be sold again until Zeni changes the item sets for the undesirables.

Sausage

Id bet on it. Orsinium comes so fast after IC, so they cant just give us more gear-grind.

Gyudan

Sausage wrote: »

Orcs are master smiths so it makes sense.

Orcs are brutes. I wouldn't trust them to craft good quality weapons.

Teiji

So sad we can't get the weapons.



Behold community! Look at the cool weapons we can't get! They are screenshot props, hooray!

Will they ever be made available in-game? Let's open up discussion on what you think, do you think they will ever be more than screenshot props?

nimander99

Teiji wrote: »

So sad we can't get the weapons.



Behold community! Look at the cool weapons we can't get! They are screenshot props, hooray!

Will they ever be made available in-game? Let's open up discussion on what you think, do you think they will ever be more than screenshot props?

There should absolutely NEVER be props in screen shots! If in fact those weapons are not attainable then they should be removed from the screen post haste. Props in screen shots is quite literally false advertising.

Teiji

nimander99 wrote: »

There should absolutely NEVER be props in screen shots! If in fact those weapons are not attainable then they should be removed from the screen post haste. Props in screen shots is quite literally false advertising.

Regardless of how I think and feel towards your words, I bring some words with the goal of inspiring thoughts on them, pray you share them; we have been told, we being consumers, customers even that Zenimax intends to work on two things;

1. Base game
   
2. DLC for base game
   

So if we say screenshot props, which is true at this moment in time - but if they intend to make the screenshot prop weapons available in-game, say in six months or something, doesn't that mean that they are screenshot props and future content?

Why do I say this? Well, I'm coming up with possible reasons as why they wave cool items in our face with no immediate means to acquire them, ESO Live, Quakecon 2015 we were told nothing on the weapons they have shown in multiple screenshots.



More screenshot prop weapons / possible future content weapons.

Notice how they are in a triangle shape around the Scamp? Maybe it means three months until they are available in-game? Maybe it means something more... More sinister.

Teiji

Ladies and gentlemen it's that time again!

On the 12th of this month Zenimax shared with us another great article;


Except it's not all it appears to be.

See post #1 for inside scoop!

I am the exposer of secrets.
The community deserves honesty.
Stop the lies.

LiquidSchwartz

Weapons are separate sets like 2/2 same with jewelry
Relax

Also are those images new armor styles

Teiji

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Weapons are separate sets like 2/2 same with jewelry
Relax

Also are those images new armor styles

Tel Var Stone weapons. They don't exist. It says on the Development article Tel Var Stone merchants sell weapons.

They don't.

It's misleading.

It's false advertising.

All the new Tel Var Stone weapons in the screenshots are actually prop weapons.

They should say that Tel Var Stone weapons are not available August 31st. But they will be added in a future update.

Pallmor

I doubt many people will end up with enough Tel Var stones for this to matter much anyway.

Teiji

Pallmor wrote: »

I doubt many people will end up with enough Tel Var stones for this to matter much anyway.

If the item sets become incredibly efficient and borderline best in-slot [like Ravager] then plenty of people will have more than enough Tel Var stones; plus the TV gear is BoE.

Robbmrp

Didn't they change the weapons in IC so that they aren't a part of Armor sets anymore? From what I recall seeing on pictures of the stats on them, they are going to be 2-3 item sets I believe. There could also be a TV Vendor in IC that just hasn't been found yet that sells these. Or they could all be drops. We'll have to see.....

Timeetyo

Robbmrp wrote: »

Didn't they change the weapons in IC so that they aren't a part of Armor sets anymore? From what I recall seeing on pictures of the stats on them, they are going to be 2-3 item sets I believe. There could also be a TV Vendor in IC that just hasn't been found yet that sells these. Or they could all be drops. We'll have to see.....

Not to mention no jewelry for these sets....

Either way this is a horrible design choice as it is limiting the options we have for gearing our characters.

Timeetyo

Robbmrp wrote: »

Didn't they change the weapons in IC so that they aren't a part of Armor sets anymore? From what I recall seeing on pictures of the stats on them, they are going to be 2-3 item sets I believe. There could also be a TV Vendor in IC that just hasn't been found yet that sells these. Or they could all be drops. We'll have to see.....

Not to mention no jewelry for these sets....

Either way this is a horrible design choice as it is limiting the options we have for gearing our characters.

Teiji

Robbmrp wrote: »

Didn't they change the weapons in IC so that they aren't a part of Armor sets anymore? From what I recall seeing on pictures of the stats on them, they are going to be 2-3 item sets I believe. There could also be a TV Vendor in IC that just hasn't been found yet that sells these. Or they could all be drops. We'll have to see.....

Screenshots in original post show all TV stone vendors.

There is no weapons vendor like the Development article states.

Completely and utterly misleading, why lie though? Just say you will add weapon vendors in three months instead of misleading everyone.

Why don't they do this?

Likely scenario is: because then it means you pay 2,500 Crowns and you can't even buy Tel Var Stone weapons until three months after.

Teiji

New PTS patch, still no Tel Var weapons.

JimT722

Its the undaunted armor all over again. I hope they get them in by release.

waterfairy

Correct me if I'm wrong but that staff in the middle pic looks new.

Teiji

JimT722 wrote: »

Its the undaunted armor all over again. I hope they get them in by release.

Really good point to remind the community about!



Okay, so you see the insignia of the Undaunted?





Taken from datamining - future possible crown store items.

It's datamined as "Mercenary", hopefully it's Undaunted or we at least get an explanation in the form of a lore book on why the Undaunted insignia uses the helm as their logo.

Teiji

Vigarr wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but that staff in the middle pic looks new.

It's a prop weapon, unobtainable in-game currently. Possibly future content, Craglorn was released as Lower Craglorn first, then Upper Craglorn; ZoS refuses to say whether Tel Var weapons will be added later, just like Upper Craglorn.

Teiji

No details on these prop weapons for your humble player base ZoS?

Are prop weapons okay or has marketing really gone too far?

Ipsius

Teiji wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Maybe weapons are next thing to grind after IC? That would make sense so they have a future plan too. Weapons from Orsinium, maybe. Orcs are master smiths so it makes sense.

Maybe Sausage; perhaps the next Imperial City update will be weapon sets specifically? Who knows.

I'm a bit disappointed to not see one heavy armor set for aggressive players, one heavy armor set for defensive players, I posted this on PTS section already but meh, maybe they'll make something like 5/5 heavy similar to Ravager but for magicka players? Perhaps in 2016, which isn't too far away, but probably PvE gear without the cool faction-armor look.

I envisioned heavy armor which would allow players to engage in heroic fights like was shown in the cinematic trailers for ESO, damage reduction when CC'd isn't all that exciting but anywhoo I digress.

I just don't want the novelty of Tel Var Stones to be a novelty, it seems like it will be a good source of XP and crafting materials which you will sell for gold as Guild Stores become full of faction gear for a month, never to be sold again until Zeni changes the item sets for the undesirables.

I vote we make, " maybe sausage" an official figure of speech.

Teiji

Please fix the http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/08/12/the-imperial-city-guide-areas Development article.

It's misleading and holds false information in it.

For reference;



Patch notes clearly state no weapons.

Please fix the Development article, thanks very much and have a wonderful day.

I also wish everyone at ZoS and the community a stable and exciting Imperial City launch!

LaerothKeykalyn

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/212192/olololololololololololoolol#latest

ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks @Teiji, we're working on updating all the Imperial City guides on the website so they're accurate (including what you called out). This will be complete by tomorrow.

Ryuho

Shame there is no weapons.. but well.. what did u expect? #ZOSlogic

Hexyl

Updating guides...?

It's not that way. You must make a weapon tel var stone vendor... !

Leeric

They've lied so many times I have lost count lol good catch.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Folks, either we put up guides when PTS opens and potentially have to make changes to reflect changes we've made on the PTS as testing progresses, or we don't post guides until launch. We chose to do the former. The guides will be updated to reflect all the changes made between PTS and live by tomorrow.