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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

Is there any reason to get a crafting certificate?

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Or is it just to help new people learn how to craft?
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  • Sandshark95
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    Once you get certified in a crafting specialization, you'll have access to daily writs for that craft. Writs provide opportunities to level your crafting skills, make a bit of gold, and be rewarded with crafting materials. As you move up in crafting tiers, the writ rewards become better.

    So, yes, certification does serve as a tutorial, but it also has another purpose.
  • marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO
    I've never bothered with it sitting at 48/clothing, 45/woodworking, and like 40 blacksmithing crafting and can do most of the Armor sets around Tamriel
  • Suisyo
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    Of course you can craft and master your crafts without doing the certification and daily writs but it's a quick and relatively easy way to gain crafting materials, XP, and gold as long as you have the materials in stock to craft the requested items.

    Be aware though, that as you spend skill points into increasing your craft lvl (to be able to craft with the next tier of materials), you're daily writs will increase with it, to use that new material. But the rewards will also be greater. The trait gems alone are a great reason to do these for weapon and armor crafts. Especially early on in your crafting because until you've been breaking down items for awhile to get a good stockpile, they're not easy to come by. Even then, certain ones will run out quicker and it's nice to have another way to earn more.

    This is how you can also gain crafting surveys which are maps to high quantity material nodes. So if you get a Blacksmith Survey you will get a map like a treasure map which will show you a place to mine ore that will give you about 7+ per node instead of the usual 3ish. If that makes sense.

    If you're doing provisioning, this is a good way to get more recipes and is one of the very few ways to get the ingredients you need to make purple recipes, Frost Miriam and Brevez Juice (spelling?), aside from getting the hireling or buying it from other players.
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  • cinnamonbooty
    Ahh... this is a question I was asking, too.

    I have that Crafting writ burning up inventory space, and also have the active quest that I just can't seem to want to complete. Perhaps I'll get on that.

    Thanks

    Cinnamon
  • Austacker
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    Suisyo wrote: »
    This is how you can also gain crafting surveys which are maps to high quantity material nodes. So if you get a Blacksmith Survey you will get a map like a treasure map which will show you a place to mine ore that will give you about 7+ per node instead of the usual 3ish. If that makes sense.

    If you're doing provisioning, this is a good way to get more recipes and is one of the very few ways to get the ingredients you need to make purple recipes, Frost Miriam and Brevez Juice (spelling?), aside from getting the hireling or buying it from other players.

    Which has a net result of *seriously* not being worth it.

    Classic example. Daily Level 50 Woodworking Writ - Make 3 Ice, 3 Lightning and 3 Fire staves.

    Over 100 pieces of Nightwood to complete.

    Reward? A CHANCE at getting a survey which MAY get back HALF of the wood you invest to do this writ.

    More often than not, you'll get a grey/green and perhaps a single mat.

    The consumable writs (Alchemy/Provisioning/Enchanting) can yield a reward that's in line with the mats spent to complete them.

    But for Woodworking, Blacksmithing and Clothing? Oh dear god no. Total waste of time doing those.

    There's already a number of discussions on this :

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138192/writ-rewards

    TLDR : Don't bother with writs outside consumables. They're not worth the effort.
    Edited by Austacker on August 4, 2015 3:33AM
  • Suisyo
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    I guess it's a matter of perception then. To me it's worth doing it for the amount of gold, inspiration it garners and the extra trait gems I usually get in the process. Although I do get them from breaking down items it's nice to get them in writs because I tend to get the harder to find ones. No you're not going to get back the same amount of materials from the surveys but it still is a bunch of nodes guaranteed to give you more than the ones you find out in the world, so to me it's still better than nothing.

    Not everyone has access to friends or people willing to trade items to break down for the added inspiration/leveling towards their crafts so the writs have been rather helpful for me for leveling my equipment crafting. That being said it's value really depends on how useful it is to you personally; for some it's not a matter of just base materials, although I can definitely see why it wouldn't seem worth it to some.
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  • Lixiviant
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    IDK, crafting is just something else to do....have fun with it until I get pissed LOL.....but I think it is worth it
  • Reverb
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    I do certifications on all my toons. They do writs for gold, XP, and crafting mats.
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  • NovaMarx
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    I like writs :smile: Like Suisyo said, there are quite a few benefits. The XP and surveys are why I still do them at v5, with all crafts maxed. Some may think it's a sinkhole for Skill Points, but it definitely depends on how you play the game. If you enjoy crafting, then go for it! And if you're like me, a completionist, you definitely want to do writs, as there are achievements involved (and helps you max your crafts quicker, which also carry achievements/dyes). But if you're more into hack-and-slash it may seem like time, energy, and skill points wasted.
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  • Khenarthi
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    Plus, if I understand right once IC goes live equipment writs will give a chance of getting a glass motif fragment to restore - which should be the way to get the new motif. Please someone correct me if I misunderstood. The actual motif stone is malachite and has a chance of dropping in treasure chests.

    So here is a reason to do the equipment writs... the prices of those fragments, specially at launch, will be crazy high. Best to just do your writs if you want to learn the motif.
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  • NovaMarx
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    Khenarthi wrote: »
    Plus, if I understand right once IC goes live equipment writs will give a chance of getting a glass motif fragment to restore - which should be the way to get the new motif. Please someone correct me if I misunderstood. The actual motif stone is malachite and has a chance of dropping in treasure chests.

    So here is a reason to do the equipment writs... the prices of those fragments, specially at launch, will be crazy high. Best to just do your writs if you want to learn the motif.

    This sounds vaguely familiar. I remember reading something about the materials for Glass Motif will only be available through deconstruction.
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  • Darlgon
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    /shrug

    If you dont want the end-game Craglorn maps with higher likelihood Nirncrux, or yellow crafting crit mats, sure, dont bother getting writs. However, I am confused about how the OP has something in his bag from one. If you get a writ quest, to a zone you cant access, either travel to a guildie, or drop the quest and re-get it when you are level appropriate to the zone for the turnin. (I opted for travel to a guildie, so my level 10 was turning in at Rawlaka. (or however its spelled))
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    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
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  • Darlgon
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    Khenarthi wrote: »
    Plus, if I understand right once IC goes live equipment writs will give a chance of getting a glass motif fragment to restore - which should be the way to get the new motif. Please someone correct me if I misunderstood. The actual motif stone is malachite and has a chance of dropping in treasure chests.

    So here is a reason to do the equipment writs... the prices of those fragments, specially at launch, will be crazy high. Best to just do your writs if you want to learn the motif.

    Yeah.. bout that.. even if your char is level 50 crafting, dont expect any of those frags unless that char ALSO has access to Craglorn to do the turnins. Game seems to lock you on level 40 writs until then.
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • Khenarthi
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    Darlgon wrote: »
    Khenarthi wrote: »
    Plus, if I understand right once IC goes live equipment writs will give a chance of getting a glass motif fragment to restore - which should be the way to get the new motif. Please someone correct me if I misunderstood. The actual motif stone is malachite and has a chance of dropping in treasure chests.

    So here is a reason to do the equipment writs... the prices of those fragments, specially at launch, will be crazy high. Best to just do your writs if you want to learn the motif.

    Yeah.. bout that.. even if your char is level 50 crafting, dont expect any of those frags unless that char ALSO has access to Craglorn to do the turnins. Game seems to lock you on level 40 writs until then.

    Sure, it's like with the Provisioning writs and the Ambrosia recipe fragments. The chance on lower level writs is lower...

    I have 8 characters with access to Craglorn but only my main crafter at V14 does writs, so it will take a while. Still, it's one good reason to do equipment writs.
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  • Darlgon
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    BTW, on live, I get 1400ish Vet XP for turnins. On PTS, I get 3300ish. Both with the ESO plus XP enhancement running.
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • Lixiviant
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    I didn't realize crafting was actually important until I got serious about the game. I'm a lowly Lv 7, but having fun with the crafting area. After having a struggle with a mudcrab, realized crafting/upgrading your weapons was the way to go...LOL
  • Darlgon
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    Actually, on launch, people were leveling characters ONLY crafting. Not sure if its still possible.
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • Suisyo
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    Darlgon wrote: »
    Actually, on launch, people were leveling characters ONLY crafting. Not sure if its still possible.

    I think it kind of is. I have a friend who was focusing even more than me on crafting (he was doing all crafts simultaneously) and only occasionally popping over to do quests while waiting for research to complete and he flew past me in levels. I mean he usually games more proficiently than I do since he is some kind of gaming guru lol but I was shocked at how high he was with all the crafting he was doing.
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  • Brrrofski
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    Doing writs is how you get certain high end stuff.

    Got my first bit of nirncrux yesterday from the crawlers survey my woodworking writ got me.

    Only was you'll get that and the ambrosia recipe is writs
  • Winterpsy
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    For provisioning the writs are a must. That's the only way to get purple ingredients. (or hirelings)
    Bsides I like doing the writs. Good cash, good extra mats.
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  • Dekkameron
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    The only writs i bother with like others are the provisioning ones.

    Gimme those purple pages!
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