ESO on Windows 10

AMZxArchMage

Does anyone regularly use eso on windows 10 because I tried it for like 2 min which was all the time I had and it seemed to run fine but looked a little different. Just wanted to know how it works with anyone else

xMovingTarget

I am Windows Insider for a while now. I use windows 10 for a couple of months. I never noticed any difference though. I was running windows 8.1 before.

nordsavage

I just finished downloading windows 10 and it adjusted my resolution automatically from what I had it at. I fixed it before I fired up ESO so I couldn't say for sure but maybe that's it? I personally haven't noticed any changes in game.

Ourorboros

Installed Win10 yesterday, and did notice the game looks slightly different. However, that's likely due to switching to a Geforce card from an AMD, not Win10.

Runs fine under Win10 for anyone wondering.

AngryNord

Not noticed any problems with Win 10 here

Ranique

Linus's law seems to apply to this thread:

As an online discussion bout windows grows longer, the probability someone starts bout Linux approaches 1

Sad to see that in 2015 this is still true

to get back on topic. ESO runs fine in windows 10. There has been some tweaks mainly with the resolution compared to earlier versions of windows. this can result in some minor differences. Also, atleast on my laptop. I had to reset the resolution after upgrading (my pc is windows insider and had win 10 for months now and it was a fresh install back then)

Fhaerron

What do you mean with looks different?

I had it on W8.1 before now W10 ... everything on ultra, game looks the same.

GamerzElite

I installed Win 10 play 2 day, but I feel ESO and Win 10 both are not ready at the moment. Found less load time but when i enter in carglorn my fps was 20 throughout. But, when i entered in dungeon fps drop to 6 (Medium Setting). Try to tweak gpu and ESO video setting but nothing worked.

I found 90% gamers are suffering with this issue not only in ESO but all game having performance issue.

** How I claim 90% gamers: Nvidia, AMD, Steam and Windows 10 forum are full of performance issue complain after Win10.

I realised this not the right time to switch on Win 10, last night I rolled back to Win 8.1.

Edit: On Windows Insider edition, ESO runs smooth and I had better FPS.

Fhaerron

I can't speak for AMD but for Nvidia the problem relies with SLI and multiple monitor setups.
The latest driver is a mess, the problem here is that you can't turn off W10 to update it. Even if you roll back driver manually windows10 will auto download the latest driver anyway.

Disable SLI or take off multiple monitors > perfect performance.

They are working on fixing this.

Apart from that W10 is amazing I'm loving it and will never roll back to W7/W8.

GamerzElite

Fhaerron wrote: »

I can't speak for AMD but for Nvidia the problem relies with SLI and multiple monitor setups.
The latest driver is a mess, the problem here is that you can't turn off W10 to update it. Even if you roll back driver manually windows10 will auto download the latest driver anyway.

Disable SLI or take off multiple monitors > perfect performance.

They are working on fixing this.

Apart from that W10 is amazing I'm loving it and will never roll back to W7/W8.

I am using AMD r9 290x but still performance issue.

Junipus

Fhaerron wrote: »

I can't speak for AMD but for Nvidia the problem relies with SLI and multiple monitor setups.
The latest driver is a mess, the problem here is that you can't turn off W10 to update it. Even if you roll back driver manually windows10 will auto download the latest driver anyway.

Disable SLI or take off multiple monitors > perfect performance.

They are working on fixing this.

Apart from that W10 is amazing I'm loving it and will never roll back to W7/W8.

I had the same problem but you can fix it.

You can download the Windows update tool from here. This will allow you to turn off automatic updates and uninstall Windows 10 drivers if they're already installed. Alternatively you can do the following:

settings -> Update & security -> Windows update -> advanced options -> Choose how updates are delivered -> tick the 'off' button

Then you need to uninstall your current gfx drivers, restart your machine and download and install the latest nvidia drivers making sure to select Windows 10 as the OS. After installation you'll be able to activate SLI and surround (currently running on 3 monitors) without issues. For some reason Windows 10 likes to change screen elements to 150% when you do it, so change them back to 100% in Display Settings.

I can't confirm, but I suspect you might be able to do the same with AMD drivers and fix the issue.

The only issues I'm having at the moment, which is likely due to the early adoption, is Alt+Tab causing graphical errors during the transition and doing things like opening TS and tabs in Chrome takes forever to be interactive.

Fhaerron

I have no trouble at all with W10, games run great (little performance boost over W8), can alt tab in and out, cycle trough programs and multiple games running at same time even on multiple virtual desktops.

I did however fully formated my 'OS' SSD and did a clean install.

daemonios

I had one of the latest Insider previews on my laptop (nVidia GPU) and it ran smoothly. No issues whatsoever, as far as I know. I ended up switching back to win 8.1 only because I got an SSD and don't really have the space for dual booting anymore.

danno8

Windows 10 itself has been a bit glitchy for me over the last couple days, but running ESO on it has been no problem at all.

Attorneyatlawl

I've been running Windows 10 off and on during its Insider Preview period, and now run it as my main OS. It's basically the perfect mix of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, just as Windows 7 was a great mix of Windows XP and Windows Vista . If you qualify for the free upgrade, which you do (and it's a perpetual license, yours forever from Microsoft) if you own a machine that's running Windows 7 or 8/8.1, do it. Don't take my word for it. Check out this amazingly long "complaint" (spoiler alert: it's not really a complaint thread ) on the ESO subreddit about Windows 10:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3f6iki/pc_problem_with_eso_and_windows_10/

It improves performance overall substantially even in games not targeted at the DX12 runtime but that are CPU-bottlenecked, like ESO (as most every MMORPG is), for example. It's also a great stability, usability, and general pleasantness upgrade for using your PC.

I found this to be the case on all of my systems used for gaming, ranging from an Ivy Bridge-based "Pentium Dual Core" machine with a GTX 750 Ti and 16GB of RAM at 1680x1050, to my main gaming and productivity system that's packed with a pair of GTX 970 cards overclocked and undervolted to reduce heat output, fueling an Acer XB280HK (4K native (3840x2160) G-Sync enabled) primary monitor with 16GB of RAM, an i7 2600K at 4.3ghz (likewise, downvolted to lower heat dumped into the room and power consumption), and a couple of SSD's rounding out the package.

Cliff notes: GET IT!

sgtsgt

I've been on Windows 10 for almost a year with their insider program and 2 weeks ago windows updated me to the full version of Windows 10 Home edition.

I've had absolutely no problems running ESO on Windows 10. Everything has just worked smoothly.

nine9six

Game itself seems to runs fine, but the "official" Windows 10 driver from Creative for my sound card isn't out. I'm using the Windows 7 driver for the time being (ETA is October for supported driver) and I keep getting audio glitches and crashes / lock-ups.

I did the "upgrade" to activate my machine, then blew-away the installation and and installed a fresh build. Copied-over my old install of ESO. I guess at some time in the past I messed around with SweetFX. Game wouldn't launch.

Deleted the "client" folder and repaired the game via the Patcher. Game launched fine after that.

Just to eliminate any possibilities of my ESO install being screwy in any way, I uninstalled ESO, purged any ESO data off my machine and kicked-off a re-installation of it before I left the house. Will be done when I get home after the UFC fights.

Overall, game seems fine. I think that driver is causing me grief. Noticed RAM usage is a little lower on Windows 10 while playing (and everywhere, for that matter).

Another thing I noticed, on my machine anyway, is when the game does crash and I launch Task Manager, I can't get the game to Force Close. I have to reboot the whole machine.

Cheers!

Annra

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Olivierko

daemonios

nine9six wrote: »

Game itself seems to runs fine, but the "official" Windows 10 driver from Creative for my sound card isn't out. I'm using the Windows 7 driver for the time being (ETA is October for supported driver) and I keep getting audio glitches and crashes / lock-ups.

Creative was one of the worst offenders in not releasing decent drivers for Windows Vista. By that time, I'd already dropped discrete sound cards and only had onboard, which Windows has supported pretty well out of the box. It's a shame, because I loved my old SB16 to death and even reused it after several major upgrades.

Olivierko wrote: »

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Seriously? That old trope?

In my anecdotal experience, Windows 98 (supposedly one of the "good" ones) was the crashiest piece of software I ever ran on a computer, worse than Windows 95 by far. It got marginally better with Win98 SE, but still Windows ME was a boon after that experience.

Similarly, my experience with XP was formatting the hard drive every six months and doing a fresh install of Windows. Not that XP was bad per se, but it seemed to grab registry clutter so that after a few months installing and uninstalling games and other software, the computer would take 10 minutes just to boot. Vista for me was a painless experience. I never had a driver issue (though my computer was pretty ordinary, just a regular motherboard, a mid-range graphics card, an Intel CPU, some RAM and a hard drive; didn't have discrete sound or other stuff that required drivers). I'm not saying that Vista wasn't problematic for many people, just saying the OS itself was not as bad as it was painted.

Since Vista, I haven't really experienced any large increases in system performance or QoL from the OS. I ran Vista, then 7, then 8.0, then 8.1, then an insider preview of Windows 10. They feel basically the same, apart from changes in the UI. The only thing I've noticed is that MS have been really pushing for faster boot times, so each version of the OS seems to boot a bit faster, but even that is to some extent unnoticeable on my laptop with a fast SSD.

LegacyDM

Getting character model tears when using amd trifire with 7950 cards on an i7 3770k. Didn't have this problem with windows 8.1. Basically, all character models look like Marty mcfly from back to the future flickering in and out of existence at a rapid pace. Extremely annoying. If I go to settings and change texture Rez from high to medium and then back to high it fixes the problem on my own character but not npcs. If I zone into a dungeon delve or a new zone i have to do the texture change again. It doesn't happen with normal dual cross fire only trifire. I've tried every setting. 1 optimize 1, afr friendly, default, frame pacing, and nothing works. Somewhat disappointed in windows 10 and amd drivers if i can't get this to work.

Yuke

Win10, new Win10 nvidia driver + ESO = one crash till now (which is an improvement i guess )

only problem i have, is that my headset (g430) is extremly quiet in teamspeak.

Vahrokh

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

I've been running Windows 10 off and on during its Insider Preview period, and now run it as my main OS. It's basically the perfect mix of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, just as Windows 7 was a great mix of Windows XP and Windows Vista . If you qualify for the free upgrade, which you do (and it's a perpetual license, yours forever from Microsoft) if you own a machine that's running Windows 7 or 8/8.1, do it. Don't take my word for it. Check out this amazingly long "complaint" (spoiler alert: it's not really a complaint thread ) on the ESO subreddit about Windows 10:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3f6iki/pc_problem_with_eso_and_windows_10/

It improves performance overall substantially even in games not targeted at the DX12 runtime but that are CPU-bottlenecked, like ESO (as most every MMORPG is), for example. It's also a great stability, usability, and general pleasantness upgrade for using your PC.

Question: I have Win 7 Professional. I'd like to upgrade to Win 10 but I don't want to upgrade it over Win 7. I'd like to install Win 10 on a new hard disk. Is it possible?

daemonios

Vahrokh wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

I've been running Windows 10 off and on during its Insider Preview period, and now run it as my main OS. It's basically the perfect mix of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, just as Windows 7 was a great mix of Windows XP and Windows Vista . If you qualify for the free upgrade, which you do (and it's a perpetual license, yours forever from Microsoft) if you own a machine that's running Windows 7 or 8/8.1, do it. Don't take my word for it. Check out this amazingly long "complaint" (spoiler alert: it's not really a complaint thread ) on the ESO subreddit about Windows 10:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3f6iki/pc_problem_with_eso_and_windows_10/

It improves performance overall substantially even in games not targeted at the DX12 runtime but that are CPU-bottlenecked, like ESO (as most every MMORPG is), for example. It's also a great stability, usability, and general pleasantness upgrade for using your PC.

Question: I have Win 7 Professional. I'd like to upgrade to Win 10 but I don't want to upgrade it over Win 7. I'd like to install Win 10 on a new hard disk. Is it possible?

I don't think it's possible to dual boot (because of the license key; if you upgrade for free I guess you can't keep using your old OS). Other than that, yes you can do a clean install on a new hard drive instead of upgrading over your existing OS.

LameoveR

Just updated to Win10 recently.
All works fine and smooth as usual.

Vahrokh

daemonios wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

I've been running Windows 10 off and on during its Insider Preview period, and now run it as my main OS. It's basically the perfect mix of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, just as Windows 7 was a great mix of Windows XP and Windows Vista . If you qualify for the free upgrade, which you do (and it's a perpetual license, yours forever from Microsoft) if you own a machine that's running Windows 7 or 8/8.1, do it. Don't take my word for it. Check out this amazingly long "complaint" (spoiler alert: it's not really a complaint thread ) on the ESO subreddit about Windows 10:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3f6iki/pc_problem_with_eso_and_windows_10/

It improves performance overall substantially even in games not targeted at the DX12 runtime but that are CPU-bottlenecked, like ESO (as most every MMORPG is), for example. It's also a great stability, usability, and general pleasantness upgrade for using your PC.

Question: I have Win 7 Professional. I'd like to upgrade to Win 10 but I don't want to upgrade it over Win 7. I'd like to install Win 10 on a new hard disk. Is it possible?

I don't think it's possible to dual boot (because of the license key; if you upgrade for free I guess you can't keep using your old OS). Other than that, yes you can do a clean install on a new hard drive instead of upgrading over your existing OS.

I have my windows 7 keys and all, is it enough to install Win 10 on a new hard disk? I don't want dual boot, just to restart clean. My Windows 7 has way too many "remains" from years of installing and uninstalling stuff.

daemonios

Vahrokh wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

I've been running Windows 10 off and on during its Insider Preview period, and now run it as my main OS. It's basically the perfect mix of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, just as Windows 7 was a great mix of Windows XP and Windows Vista . If you qualify for the free upgrade, which you do (and it's a perpetual license, yours forever from Microsoft) if you own a machine that's running Windows 7 or 8/8.1, do it. Don't take my word for it. Check out this amazingly long "complaint" (spoiler alert: it's not really a complaint thread ) on the ESO subreddit about Windows 10:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3f6iki/pc_problem_with_eso_and_windows_10/

It improves performance overall substantially even in games not targeted at the DX12 runtime but that are CPU-bottlenecked, like ESO (as most every MMORPG is), for example. It's also a great stability, usability, and general pleasantness upgrade for using your PC.

Question: I have Win 7 Professional. I'd like to upgrade to Win 10 but I don't want to upgrade it over Win 7. I'd like to install Win 10 on a new hard disk. Is it possible?

I don't think it's possible to dual boot (because of the license key; if you upgrade for free I guess you can't keep using your old OS). Other than that, yes you can do a clean install on a new hard drive instead of upgrading over your existing OS.

I have my windows 7 keys and all, is it enough to install Win 10 on a new hard disk? I don't want dual boot, just to restart clean. My Windows 7 has way too many "remains" from years of installing and uninstalling stuff.

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/07/how-to-do-a-clean-install-of-windows-10-from-windows-7-and-8/

LameoveR

@Vahrokh no, it's not.
You either need to to update your Win7 to win10 with saving all your programs\documents, either update without saving all your stuff, performing "clean install".

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Vahrokh

Thanks.

Ranique

Olivierko wrote: »

Actually off in many ways.

windows 95 was considered a huge aprovement compared to 3.1 and so should be good. Windows 98 itself was bad and only windows 98 SE was seen as a good version. Windows ME was bad, but windows 2000 that was launched at the same time was considered very good and the reason why the home verison and bussiness version of windows where merged in windows xp. Windows Vista had some graphical issues with the looks, but for the rest it wasn't bad and people still use it.

The only versions that really failed where windows ME (mostly cause windows 2000 did the same things but much better) and windows 8.1

As for the numbering. It never made sense.
The list makes it seem as if windows 1 never got released.

By the way the real reason windows 9 got skipped is very likely different than the *** microsoft marketing is telling. The real reason is that many legacy programs still contain a line of code to find the difference between windows 95/98 and later version. It handles all versions starting with "9" as an old 90's version of windows.

FadedJeans

I did a clean install of Windows 10 Enterprise on a new SSD so I could swap it back if I hated it.

The only problem I ran into involved my use of 3 monitors: a 750 Ti supporting Monitor 1 on which I play ESO, and an older 430 supporting Monitors 2 & 3 for more workspace. The most recent 430 drivers delivered by NVidia or Windows didn't work. Manually installing a driver for 8.1 from last March worked great.

Well, it worked great until the NVidia application or Windows updated it again. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Other than that, I haven't encountered any real problems of note.