Best PvP duo?

Junkogen

What is the best PvP duo? My brother and I are starting up on PS4 and I'm wondering what would be a great duo for us.

Sallington

Serious: 2 DKs, or 2 NB for ganking

sagitter

i like much also tempalr+nb or templar + dk

Bromburak

Junkogen wrote: »

What is the best PvP duo?

Lag and Zerg.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Templar and any except a second Templar. Need those heals, don't need double heals.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Be like these two and you should be fine.

Preyfar

Clearly, B0N3D00D and pLaTeDeWd from Ultima Online were the best PVP duo of ALL TIME.

Long may they reign.

leepalmer95

For a 2vA fight likely templar + dk, mass heals, cc, dmg, etc.., dk can tank while temp heals.

Nihili

A good way to look at it is: good class duos have the same mobility:

You get the slow Tanky duos (I say "slow" because you don't have "escapes", so if you fight in a duo like this you either win or you die, but if there's two of you you'll actually die very rarely -- just because you don't have an escape does NOT mean you'll die a lot! You're tanky, and with two of you guys working together it's tons of fun 2vXing!):

DK + DK = Good Lots of upfront tanking. Take a look at Aetcharian and Skaffa,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2usgLvnA8c
Temp + Temp = Good Lots of heals coming from both players, if one is low health, the other will heal. Very hard to be killed and loads of fun.
I actually couldn't find an example video for you of two templars fighting, so I included some stuff from Blabafat who's a great Temp, but believe me this is a lot of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbWidWnvkk
DK + Temp = Good This is just fun, it's pretty tanky with temp doubling as a Healer and a good Tank, but the DK needs to play so that he doesn't make the Temp waste his magicka healing the DK and end up getting the temp killed. Here is something from Divine Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnHrYOV_WzY
and I'm including a video from Bae Come Back, because he does a lot of DK + Another class 2vX, maybe to give you an idea what to expect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i738ahOIqc

You have the escape duos (Bolt escape or Shadow Cloak gives you the ability to escape, but if only one of you has an escape ability (i.e. Sorc + DK), then when fights go south the other will keep dying while one escapes which isn't ideal):

Sorc + Sorc = Good This is considered the best or rather, easiest, duo by a lot of duellers and good PvP players. The reason is that you're tanky enough to stand in the middle of a zerg and spam shields, but if you really do get in trouble you can Bolt Escape away. Most mobility, good DPS, and lots of tankiness from both players makes for a lethal combo. Look at Bolterity's youtube channel, he has some videos where he plays with Qauvir Av Molag (or however the hell you say it), Sypher's Sorc vids with Aetcharian, and they all wreck face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE83pcmqckY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_95H81fcg
NB + NB = Good This is a fun one, but it's a different play style than most. You'll have a heavy reliance on stealth, and would use your shadow cloak frequently. Great for ganking and structure-trolling (Like on a bridge). Again a good example would be Sypher and Aetcharian's NB duo video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfv86rPXKI

Sorc + NB = Okay. The reason why I think this one is only okay is that you and your brother may find that because you have different types of escapes, you would desync in the middle of fights when things get tough -- so the Sorc might bolt away and leave the NB behind, and the NB would TRY to stealth and not get it right, resulting in the NB dying and the Sorc escaping. Or perhaps the NB stealths away, but the Sorc gets chased down by 3 other Sorcs, so the Sorc dies a mile away from where the NB is. Still, with good coordination you can make it work well for you. But then again, with good coordination you can make anything work for you. Which brings me to the bad combos:

Bad duos:
Sorc + DK
Sorc + Temp
NB + DK
NB + Temp

This is OF COURSE not entirely true, because the "Bad duos" as I listed them above can OBVIOUSLY be made to work really well if you guys play them well and coordinate well. I can find dozens of videos where odd class combos work GREAT. In the end you have to decide what suits YOU. And I hope I helped you

PS: I realize you mentioned you'll be playing on the Playstation and all the links I gave you were to PC videos, but frankly I have yet to see a single video of Playstation 4 PvP that contains good players -- it's obviously because it's still very new over there, but what I really wanted to say is that if you find yourself confused by all the numbers and stuff from the PC, don't stress. Just look at all those peeps dying instead.

Junkogen

Nihili wrote: »

A good way to look at it is: good class duos have the same mobility:

You get the slow Tanky duos (I say "slow" because you don't have "escapes", so if you fight in a duo like this you either win or you die, but if there's two of you you'll actually die very rarely -- just because you don't have an escape does NOT mean you'll die a lot! You're tanky, and with two of you guys working together it's tons of fun 2vXing!):

DK + DK = Good Lots of upfront tanking. Take a look at Aetcharian and Skaffa,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2usgLvnA8c
Temp + Temp = Good Lots of heals coming from both players, if one is low health, the other will heal. Very hard to be killed and loads of fun.
I actually couldn't find an example video for you of two templars fighting, so I included some stuff from Blabafat who's a great Temp, but believe me this is a lot of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbWidWnvkk
DK + Temp = Good This is just fun, it's pretty tanky with temp doubling as a Healer and a good Tank, but the DK needs to play so that he doesn't make the Temp waste his magicka healing the DK and end up getting the temp killed. Here is something from Divine Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnHrYOV_WzY
and I'm including a video from Bae Come Back, because he does a lot of DK + Another class 2vX, maybe to give you an idea what to expect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i738ahOIqc

You have the escape duos (Bolt escape or Shadow Cloak gives you the ability to escape, but if only one of you has an escape ability (i.e. Sorc + DK), then when fights go south the other will keep dying while one escapes which isn't ideal):

Sorc + Sorc = Good This is considered the best or rather, easiest, duo by a lot of duellers and good PvP players. The reason is that you're tanky enough to stand in the middle of a zerg and spam shields, but if you really do get in trouble you can Bolt Escape away. Most mobility, good DPS, and lots of tankiness from both players makes for a lethal combo. Look at Bolterity's youtube channel, he has some videos where he plays with Qauvir Av Molag (or however the hell you say it), Sypher's Sorc vids with Aetcharian, and they all wreck face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE83pcmqckY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_95H81fcg
NB + NB = Good This is a fun one, but it's a different play style than most. You'll have a heavy reliance on stealth, and would use your shadow cloak frequently. Great for ganking and structure-trolling (Like on a bridge). Again a good example would be Sypher and Aetcharian's NB duo video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfv86rPXKI

Sorc + NB = Okay. The reason why I think this one is only okay is that you and your brother may find that because you have different types of escapes, you would desync in the middle of fights when things get tough -- so the Sorc might bolt away and leave the NB behind, and the NB would TRY to stealth and not get it right, resulting in the NB dying and the Sorc escaping. Or perhaps the NB stealths away, but the Sorc gets chased down by 3 other Sorcs, so the Sorc dies a mile away from where the NB is. Still, with good coordination you can make it work well for you. But then again, with good coordination you can make anything work for you. Which brings me to the bad combos:

Bad duos:
Sorc + DK
Sorc + Temp
NB + DK
NB + Temp

This is OF COURSE not entirely true, because the "Bad duos" as I listed them above can OBVIOUSLY be made to work really well if you guys play them well and coordinate well. I can find dozens of videos where odd class combos work GREAT. In the end you have to decide what suits YOU. And I hope I helped you

PS: I realize you mentioned you'll be playing on the Playstation and all the links I gave you were to PC videos, but frankly I have yet to see a single video of Playstation 4 PvP that contains good players -- it's obviously because it's still very new over there, but what I really wanted to say is that if you find yourself confused by all the numbers and stuff from the PC, don't stress. Just look at all those peeps dying instead.

Thank you! This is very thorough.

I've played both PS4 and PC and it's an adjustment to learn the controls on console after PC. The controller slows things down for some reason. Probably just have to get used to it.

Sausage

2 DKs hands down. I dont think 2 NB works, one good tank can suck their stamina and magicka easy.

eliisra

On live it's 2 sorcs, without a doubt. It's impossible to stop a duo of sorcs. They have the best survivability in the game, can easily focus down targets one by one with high burst, while kiting an entire enemy group around the map. You might get one of them down, but the other one always survives and can come back and revive.

Pts or 2.1, my bet would be 2 NB's utilizing Cloak and pulling and hiding around packs of NPC's mobs, being extremely annoying.

If you're always playing duo it's not really worth going for templar or DK. They shine in bigger groups. Duo is almost like being solo really, than you need to pick your fights, avoid zergs and being run over. So mobility and escaping is pretty crucial.

TheBull

Sausage wrote: »

2 DKs hands down. I dont think 2 NB works, one good tank can suck their stamina and magicka easy.

Not many if any tanks gonna survive the initial burst from two good NBs, on live anyways. There certainly sustain issues if the opener doesn't get a kill. There is a point of no return where the NBs need to reset or quickly get a kill.

reften

2 DKs

reften

edit: nevermind, two NBs, yeah, can get a solo kill, but two of just about anything can get the jump on someone and get a solo kill.

dantator

Nihili wrote: »

A good way to look at it is: good class duos have the same mobility:

You get the slow Tanky duos (I say "slow" because you don't have "escapes", so if you fight in a duo like this you either win or you die, but if there's two of you you'll actually die very rarely -- just because you don't have an escape does NOT mean you'll die a lot! You're tanky, and with two of you guys working together it's tons of fun 2vXing!):

DK + DK = Good Lots of upfront tanking. Take a look at Aetcharian and Skaffa,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2usgLvnA8c
Temp + Temp = Good Lots of heals coming from both players, if one is low health, the other will heal. Very hard to be killed and loads of fun.
I actually couldn't find an example video for you of two templars fighting, so I included some stuff from Blabafat who's a great Temp, but believe me this is a lot of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbWidWnvkk
DK + Temp = Good This is just fun, it's pretty tanky with temp doubling as a Healer and a good Tank, but the DK needs to play so that he doesn't make the Temp waste his magicka healing the DK and end up getting the temp killed. Here is something from Divine Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnHrYOV_WzY
and I'm including a video from Bae Come Back, because he does a lot of DK + Another class 2vX, maybe to give you an idea what to expect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i738ahOIqc

You have the escape duos (Bolt escape or Shadow Cloak gives you the ability to escape, but if only one of you has an escape ability (i.e. Sorc + DK), then when fights go south the other will keep dying while one escapes which isn't ideal):

Sorc + Sorc = Good This is considered the best or rather, easiest, duo by a lot of duellers and good PvP players. The reason is that you're tanky enough to stand in the middle of a zerg and spam shields, but if you really do get in trouble you can Bolt Escape away. Most mobility, good DPS, and lots of tankiness from both players makes for a lethal combo. Look at Bolterity's youtube channel, he has some videos where he plays with Qauvir Av Molag (or however the hell you say it), Sypher's Sorc vids with Aetcharian, and they all wreck face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE83pcmqckY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_95H81fcg
NB + NB = Good This is a fun one, but it's a different play style than most. You'll have a heavy reliance on stealth, and would use your shadow cloak frequently. Great for ganking and structure-trolling (Like on a bridge). Again a good example would be Sypher and Aetcharian's NB duo video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAfv86rPXKI

Sorc + NB = Okay. The reason why I think this one is only okay is that you and your brother may find that because you have different types of escapes, you would desync in the middle of fights when things get tough -- so the Sorc might bolt away and leave the NB behind, and the NB would TRY to stealth and not get it right, resulting in the NB dying and the Sorc escaping. Or perhaps the NB stealths away, but the Sorc gets chased down by 3 other Sorcs, so the Sorc dies a mile away from where the NB is. Still, with good coordination you can make it work well for you. But then again, with good coordination you can make anything work for you. Which brings me to the bad combos:

Bad duos:
Sorc + DK
Sorc + Temp
NB + DK
NB + Temp

This is OF COURSE not entirely true, because the "Bad duos" as I listed them above can OBVIOUSLY be made to work really well if you guys play them well and coordinate well. I can find dozens of videos where odd class combos work GREAT. In the end you have to decide what suits YOU. And I hope I helped you

PS: I realize you mentioned you'll be playing on the Playstation and all the links I gave you were to PC videos, but frankly I have yet to see a single video of Playstation 4 PvP that contains good players -- it's obviously because it's still very new over there, but what I really wanted to say is that if you find yourself confused by all the numbers and stuff from the PC, don't stress. Just look at all those peeps dying instead.

Hey, this is Divine Force. I know this is really late but I couldn't resist not mentioning some key points of the duos. Skaffa (DK), Aetcha (DK), Bae (DK), and Sypher (NB) all wore nirn during 1.6. In comparison, in Cross's and mine duo that you linked we weren't wearing any nirn and we had around 25k spell resist buffed but I know that the four people that I mentioned all wore nirn and easily had 40k+ spell resist. I tried running the standard DK build in 1.6 (double s&b and nirn) and it was OP. Cross and I have been 2vXing since the beginning of the game and to this day I still think templar+DK duo is one of the best and funniest duos but imo two sorcs in 1.6 was the most OP combo. Cross and I did a lot of 2vXing on our sorcs and it was a blast in 1.6.

Bfish22090

2 sorcs

Jbugz97

i play with a friend once in a while and i love our NB + DK

SneaK

My favorite so far is when I am running with my buddy, stam NB & magicka NB. Cloak makes it much easier to pick and choose battles.

dantator

Guys remember this is a 1.6 post haha. But yeah, I think in 1.7 the best duo is probably 2 NBs. Honestly, every duo can be fun and epic imo.

UltimaJoe777

If you're both tight, you are your best duo. Go with what best suits your play styles as opposed to trying to be what you're not and you'll do fine!

Asherons_Call

20 replies. 20 different responses. Lol

Looks like there really isn't much difference