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Dragons in TESO

  • leepalmer95
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    You never know one of the IC bosses could be a dragon or a future trial boss.
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  • UTG_Zilla
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    You never know one of the IC bosses could be a dragon or a future trial boss.

    Well actually I kinda do. In IC screenshot they have posted, one of the bosses is giant kickass lookin Titan. Much better then any lame dragon we've seen and killed 1000 times in skyrim.

    Another thing, dragons are more or less a skyrim thing. If they had made a black marsh TES would everyone be clamoring for the hist to be everywhere?

    P.s. Sure Martin septim turned into a dragon but that was with the amulet of kings. The king of the cat-people on Akavir also turned into a dragon, just sayin, it's not one person kind of thing
    Edited by UTG_Zilla on July 31, 2015 8:36AM
  • andystom
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    First of all, it’s nice that there is so much response, alto it went different way then I planned :)
    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    Well actually I kind of do. In IC screenshot they have posted, one of the bosses is giant kickass lookin Titan. Much better then any lame dragon we've seen and killed 1000 times in skyrim.

    Another thing, dragons are more or less a skyrim thing. If they had made a black marsh TES would everyone be clamoring for the hist to be everywhere?
    Just to be clear dragons first appeared in TES series long before Skyrim. http://www.elderscrolls.com/redguard/

    And to justify my intentions. From the beginning I suggested appearance of very few dragons (3 at most :) ), which would allowed designers to create much better creatures, then we saw in Skyrim, where all of them were more or less the same.

    In the end, I would like to tell to all people who kind of rudely suggested “Go play Skyrim!” , you don’t have to reed forum treads you don’t like and everyone have right for their own opinion. :)
    Edited by andystom on July 31, 2015 12:09PM
  • andystom
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    Violynne wrote: »
    I don't know if we'll see dragons, plural, but I am curious as to know what Alduin is doing right about now. I mean, according to lore, he should be flying about, even if we don't get a chance to fight him.

    It's funny. Every time I leave Riften, I expect a roar. :)

    Alduin was banished from Mundus during Dragon War.
    On the Throat of the World, Alduin was defeated, but not killed. Instead, with an Elder Scroll, Alduin was sent forth in time, albeit unintentionally, and would not return until the 4E 201.
    But there is this one :)
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  • mrskinskull
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    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    This isn't skyrim

    **** off with the dragons

    Don't be rude.

    This is a fantasy game.
    And dragons are core to many high fantasy stories.

    What do you have against dragons anyway?

    What I have against dragons is that in skyrim they were cool. And now everyone thinks that dragons are the canon of TES games when they're not. Like every week there's 1 or two post about why we don't have dragons. We have Titans, they're much cooler. If you want to go be a dragonborn and ride around on dragons then get skyrim.

    And yea it's a 'fantasy game' but fantasy doesn't mean one trick pony

    What's the diff between a dragon and that daedra dragon thing?
  • Sausage
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    If they add Dragons put them into Cyrodil. Could work as anti-zerg measure. If you're outnumbered summon a Dragon!
  • andystom
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    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    This isn't skyrim

    **** off with the dragons

    Don't be rude.

    This is a fantasy game.
    And dragons are core to many high fantasy stories.

    What do you have against dragons anyway?

    What I have against dragons is that in skyrim they were cool. And now everyone thinks that dragons are the canon of TES games when they're not. Like every week there's 1 or two post about why we don't have dragons. We have Titans, they're much cooler. If you want to go be a dragonborn and ride around on dragons then get skyrim.

    And yea it's a 'fantasy game' but fantasy doesn't mean one trick pony

    What's the diff between a dragon and that daedra dragon thing?

    Titans were created from by Molag Bhal from dragon Boziikkodstrun, which he lured to Coldharbour during the Dragon War. There he inprison him and begin experimenting on him.
    There was once the dragon known as Boziikkodstrun, who atempted to fly beyond the borders of Mundus. Though he failed, his valorous effort gained the attention of Molag Bal, who offered him a place of honor in Coldharbour. Molag Bal opened a barrier between the worlds into his realm, and once there, Boziikkodstrun had the privilege of being bound in chains of cold, ebon iron. He was set a place of honor in the nethermost depths of the Tower of Lies, for Molag Bal desired the secrets of the dov's dominance over the mortals. Long was Boziikkodstrun tortured, but uttered not a single sentence. Tired with this, Molag Bal began to slowly consume the dragon's flesh until there was but a skeleton. There, Molag Bal said, "If I cannot have the secrets of the dragons, then I shall make dragons of my own, dragons even mightier than those of Nirn!"

    Molag Bal then had the skeleton taken to the Vile Laboratory, where it was infused with the blood of darkness, reviving it as a soulless being. He then had the skeleton improved, forming a bone frame even mightier than its forebears. Once that was complete, Molag Bal had the skeleton plunged into the deepest pool in the Azure Chasm, to give the new creation its brains and brawn. After that, the first Daedric Titan rose from the chasm to serve its master.
    http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Daedric_Titan
    Edited by andystom on July 31, 2015 4:31PM
  • UTG_Zilla
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    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    UTG_Zilla wrote: »
    This isn't skyrim

    **** off with the dragons

    Don't be rude.

    This is a fantasy game.
    And dragons are core to many high fantasy stories.

    What do you have against dragons anyway?

    What I have against dragons is that in skyrim they were cool. And now everyone thinks that dragons are the canon of TES games when they're not. Like every week there's 1 or two post about why we don't have dragons. We have Titans, they're much cooler. If you want to go be a dragonborn and ride around on dragons then get skyrim.

    And yea it's a 'fantasy game' but fantasy doesn't mean one trick pony

    What's the diff between a dragon and that daedra dragon thing?

    Exactly so why does everyone care about having dragons when we pretty much do but cooler
  • nimander99
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    nimander99 wrote: »
    Lore wise dragons are alive a this time and hunted, so yes it is possible. Can't wait to be flamed by people saying "this aint skyrim hyuk hyuk" and other equally intelligent responses. :smiley:

    Yes lore says there are a few dragons still alive in the 2nd era one being Parthanaax but lore also say they are hiding for fear of being hunted. So yes there are dragons alive but no to seeing any cause they are hiding high in the sky or off content and don't even think about asking to see Parthanaax cause I highly doubt the grey beards will allow power hungry players to come into High Hrothgar to abuse the power of the voice and Parthanaax. Here's what will happen if we try entering into High Hrothgar.

    >player: Hi greybeards I like to enter and fight and kill Parthanaax for fun and turn his remains into armor :3
    >grey beards: .....
    >player: *staring at them*
    >grey beards: FUS RO DAH !
    >player: *falling of the summit of the highest mountain on the face of Tamerial to there death.

    Your right of course, cause no one would EVER look for anything in hiding, and it would be impossible to write a quest about finding a hidden dragon... yeah... I for one couldn't square a story like that with established lore. :neutral:
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  • Gidorick
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    I'm really enjoying this thread guys. I could see a dragon being a boss at some point. As far as I'm concerned they're like Daedric Princes, we can defeat them but not KILL them. Only a Dragonborn can kill them.

    I could see a storyline where a dragon is awakened by a dragon priest, then we defeat that dragon and put it back to sleep because the Dragon priest wasn't able to restore it to it's full power. Could even be like a litch looking dragon.

    The REASON the priest awoke the Dragon could be that it was trying to summon Alduin.

    There are ways to include them without being "blasphemous".
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  • RedTalon
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    Oh boy this again, keep in mind those titans if the dreadic prince wanted could make them look like a giant baby also, but making them look like that is just cooler, and yeah no dov in this game now could there be other dragons beyound the dov yes.
  • BBSooner
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm really enjoying this thread guys. I could see a dragon being a boss at some point. As far as I'm concerned they're like Daedric Princes, we can defeat them but not KILL them. Only a Dragonborn can kill them.

    I could see a storyline where a dragon is awakened by a dragon priest, then we defeat that dragon and put it back to sleep because the Dragon priest wasn't able to restore it to it's full power. Could even be like a litch looking dragon.

    The REASON the priest awoke the Dragon could be that it was trying to summon Alduin.

    There are ways to include them without being "blasphemous".

    I'm actually pretty cool with this. There is story and intrigue, as opposed to:

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  • UrQuan
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I'm really enjoying this thread guys. I could see a dragon being a boss at some point. As far as I'm concerned they're like Daedric Princes, we can defeat them but not KILL them. Only a Dragonborn can kill them.

    I could see a storyline where a dragon is awakened by a dragon priest, then we defeat that dragon and put it back to sleep because the Dragon priest wasn't able to restore it to it's full power. Could even be like a litch looking dragon.

    The REASON the priest awoke the Dragon could be that it was trying to summon Alduin.

    There are ways to include them without being "blasphemous".
    Well, technically anyone can kill a dragon. Making sure that the dragon stays dead is the tricky part :)
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  • egan_ESO
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    But Alduin was a Time Lord...

    Okay so all joking aside I'm totally serious. So Alduin gets sent through time, and basically it becomes "someone elses problem" but what if *WE* are that someone else. Alduin goes through time, has to deal with *US* and it's our job to send him back to the Skyrim era where he will be fully defeated by the Dragonborn.

    That way it would be Alduin on a "pit stop' of sorts in time, and we can fight some dragons!
  • RedTalon
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    egan_ESO wrote: »
    But Alduin was a Time Lord...

    Okay so all joking aside I'm totally serious. So Alduin gets sent through time, and basically it becomes "someone elses problem" but what if *WE* are that someone else. Alduin goes through time, has to deal with *US* and it's our job to send him back to the Skyrim era where he will be fully defeated by the Dragonborn.

    That way it would be Alduin on a "pit stop' of sorts in time, and we can fight some dragons!

    The dragonborn saw who sent them foreward if you recall, its well before the second era, or did you mean he has a brief stop before the events in skyrim?
  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    No. There are no dragons during this time period. Read up about the dragon lore here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
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  • WolffenBloodseeker
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    No. There are no dragons during this time period. Read up about the dragon lore here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)

    As was stated many times before in this and lots of other threads, there are dragons during the second era, a few who survived the dragon war and went into hiding to wait for the return of Alduin in the fourth era, also there is one dragon that allied himself with Tiber Septim and his Empire a bit more than 200 years after TESO timeline.

    Based on this it's possible and wouldn't break the lore to have a dragon as a special trial boss or quest giver and etc.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Look even if there are a few and remind you A FEW dragons still alive in the 2nd ear they are not gonna be a special boss or trial thing cause again stated by ZoS and Bethesda they are not adding dragons period. end of story.

    So drop it already cause no matter how much QQ you do they are not gonna add them.
  • BBSooner
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    Look even if there are a few and remind you A FEW dragons still alive in the 2nd ear they are not gonna be a special boss or trial thing cause again stated by ZoS and Bethesda they are not adding dragons period. end of story.

    So drop it already cause no matter how much QQ you do they are not gonna add them.

    You seem personally offended at the notion of a discussion about dragons, even though you acknowledge that a spotting is plausible within the lore.

    None of ZOS' statements are set in stone (as if that needs to be said). While I don't think ESO particularly needs dragons if they were added tastefully as opposed to, say, how they are handling the "strap a saddle on everything larger than a human" garbage with mounts then it could potentially be a positive addition.

    That said, it should have a plausible reason behind it. Dragons for the sake of dragons is pointless.
  • Roselle
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Having plenty of dragons in the game would be completely lore-unfriendly, and I guarantee it would cause a lot of TES fans to stop playing (myself included).

    Having said that, we know for a fact that there are still a few dragons alive in this era, so having 1 or (at most) 2 show up wouldn't be a problem lore-wise. It would be really easy to screw up such an appearance, but if it was done right it could be pretty cool.

    If any dragon shows up in ESO, it should really be this guy:
    https://youtu.be/Bifmj1O3D24?t=37s

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  • Sykis
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    The elders scrolls define events like these as a dragon break. Which was how the story of Skyrim even happened. Dragons appearing would not break lore as there is no concrete evidence that dragons were extinct during this time frame. Tiber Septim had a dragon ally during his conquest of tamriel. However I wouldn't mind a dynamic feature where randomly a world boss dragon or Titan sent from oblivion would just drop on the populous. Not like known spawn points but randomly throughout tamriel. But I would like to see it as a large scale kind of deal. Requiring a large number of people to engage and destroy it. Even have it on ground rampaging everything for a short period then lifting off to another area of not killed in a certain time. Might be something worth while. Just my thoughts.
  • UrQuan
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    Roselle wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Having plenty of dragons in the game would be completely lore-unfriendly, and I guarantee it would cause a lot of TES fans to stop playing (myself included).

    Having said that, we know for a fact that there are still a few dragons alive in this era, so having 1 or (at most) 2 show up wouldn't be a problem lore-wise. It would be really easy to screw up such an appearance, but if it was done right it could be pretty cool.

    If any dragon shows up in ESO, it should really be this guy:
    https://youtu.be/Bifmj1O3D24?t=37s

    Yes, always keep this mod alive by spreading this video. :)
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  • andystom
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    Look even if there are a few and remind you A FEW dragons still alive in the 2nd ear they are not gonna be a special boss or trial thing cause again stated by ZoS and Bethesda they are not adding dragons period. end of story.

    So drop it already cause no matter how much QQ you do they are not gonna add them.
    Once again there is no need for you to read or participate in this dissuasion if you are being offended by it.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Having plenty of dragons in the game would be completely lore-unfriendly, and I guarantee it would cause a lot of TES fans to stop playing (myself included).

    Having said that, we know for a fact that there are still a few dragons alive in this era, so having 1 or (at most) 2 show up wouldn't be a problem lore-wise. It would be really easy to screw up such an appearance, but if it was done right it could be pretty cool.

    If any dragon shows up in ESO, it should really be this guy:
    https://youtu.be/Bifmj1O3D24?t=37s

    Yes, always keep this mod alive by spreading this video. :)
    Macho Man Dragon is best Dragon :D

    And in dead This Dragon is awesome :)
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    BBSooner wrote: »
    Look even if there are a few and remind you A FEW dragons still alive in the 2nd ear they are not gonna be a special boss or trial thing cause again stated by ZoS and Bethesda they are not adding dragons period. end of story.

    So drop it already cause no matter how much QQ you do they are not gonna add them.

    You seem personally offended at the notion of a discussion about dragons, even though you acknowledge that a spotting is plausible within the lore.

    None of ZOS' statements are set in stone (as if that needs to be said). While I don't think ESO particularly needs dragons if they were added tastefully as opposed to, say, how they are handling the "strap a saddle on everything larger than a human" garbage with mounts then it could potentially be a positive addition.

    That said, it should have a plausible reason behind it. Dragons for the sake of dragons is pointless.

    Not offened just tired of coming onto the forums and every single day there are 3 new post about adding dragons to ESO either though the lore and the devs have said over and over and over again no.

    This horse and all it's offsprings have been beaten to death and un-death 3 times over about this topic and the answer is always the same. So players need to either accepted that or go play Slyrim.
  • NDwarf
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    RedTalon wrote: »
    Oh boy this again, keep in mind those titans if the dreadic prince wanted could make them look like a giant baby also, but making them look like that is just cooler, and yeah no dov in this game now could there be other dragons beyound the dov yes.

    Molag Bal, "Chose the form of the Deadric Titans! Destroyers of Nirn!"

    Player 1, "Everyone turn mics off! No one say a thing!"
    Player 2, *cough dragons cough*

    Molag Bal, "The choice is made the Deadric Titans have come!"

    Player 1, "Whoa, whoa, wooo wait! Nobody choosed anything!"
    Player 2, " Um guys..."
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  • Gidorick
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    lol. Nice Ghostbusters reference @NDwarf. +1
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  • UTG_Zilla
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    Roselle wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Having plenty of dragons in the game would be completely lore-unfriendly, and I guarantee it would cause a lot of TES fans to stop playing (myself included).

    Having said that, we know for a fact that there are still a few dragons alive in this era, so having 1 or (at most) 2 show up wouldn't be a problem lore-wise. It would be really easy to screw up such an appearance, but if it was done right it could be pretty cool.

    If any dragon shows up in ESO, it should really be this guy:
    https://youtu.be/Bifmj1O3D24?t=37s

    Yes, always keep this mod alive by spreading this video. :)
    Macho Man Dragon is best Dragon :D

    Okay. I do know what you're talking about. And because of such, I retract all my comments about no dragons in lieu for a macho man dragon in eso
  • Horker
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    u have dragon frog pet now, it flies and spits fire
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  • Tryxus
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    There are no dragons in ESO, and there aren't gonna be necromancers either
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  • Abeille
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    There are no dragons in ESO, and there aren't gonna be necromancers either

    If there aren't gonna be necromancers, then how was this thread brought back to life?
    Edited by Abeille on March 18, 2016 11:43AM
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