I honestly think that 'Race, appearance and Alliance change' should be implemented into the crown store. I've seen forums WAY back about people complaining about how their character looks. I remember one guy said he messed around the with chest and gut and he didn't noticed any change not until he got half way through the game and he noticed the gut and chest were sticking out and he wanted to change it. I hope in the near future Zenimax Online will add this to the crown store.
Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
At one stage I made a great look a like of the witcher. Everything looked perfect I mean everything. But half way through the game at level 15 I noticed the eye's were squinting and funny enough I didn't even touch the eye section in the character creation menu. Just that small detail made my character look absolutely ridiculous and it was highly noticeable.
Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
At one stage I made a great look a like of the witcher. Everything looked perfect I mean everything. But half way through the game at level 15 I noticed the eye's were squinting and funny enough I didn't even touch the eye section in the character creation menu. Just that small detail made my character look absolutely ridiculous and it was highly noticeable.
I was the same way. I started out with a DK, but wanted to try a Templar. Then at about level 13ish I made a NB and stuck with that for awhile too. Then I realized I never tried out the DK's class skills because I didn't know what I was doing then, so I went back to DK and made it look the way I wanted to look finally and have stuck with it ever since. Sometimes it just takes so much experimentation to find what you like, and I find it a bit absurd that character recreation wasn't put in the game from the start. I would've liked to keep all my quest progression on one character while I decided what to be, instead of all the choices for your character being so permanent. I don't know how class changing would work, but I definitely feel that appearance and race changing should be added. Simply for making a character appear exactly the way you want at any given time.
Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
At one stage I made a great look a like of the witcher. Everything looked perfect I mean everything. But half way through the game at level 15 I noticed the eye's were squinting and funny enough I didn't even touch the eye section in the character creation menu. Just that small detail made my character look absolutely ridiculous and it was highly noticeable.
I was the same way. I started out with a DK, but wanted to try a Templar. Then at about level 13ish I made a NB and stuck with that for awhile too. Then I realized I never tried out the DK's class skills because I didn't know what I was doing then, so I went back to DK and made it look the way I wanted to look finally and have stuck with it ever since. Sometimes it just takes so much experimentation to find what you like, and I find it a bit absurd that character recreation wasn't put in the game from the start. I would've liked to keep all my quest progression on one character while I decided what to be, instead of all the choices for your character being so permanent. I don't know how class changing would work, but I definitely feel that appearance and race changing should be added. Simply for making a character appear exactly the way you want at any given time.
They should try and do something like they did in Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion were just before you leave the starting area you can go back and re-do your character and skills etc......
Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
At one stage I made a great look a like of the witcher. Everything looked perfect I mean everything. But half way through the game at level 15 I noticed the eye's were squinting and funny enough I didn't even touch the eye section in the character creation menu. Just that small detail made my character look absolutely ridiculous and it was highly noticeable.
I was the same way. I started out with a DK, but wanted to try a Templar. Then at about level 13ish I made a NB and stuck with that for awhile too. Then I realized I never tried out the DK's class skills because I didn't know what I was doing then, so I went back to DK and made it look the way I wanted to look finally and have stuck with it ever since. Sometimes it just takes so much experimentation to find what you like, and I find it a bit absurd that character recreation wasn't put in the game from the start. I would've liked to keep all my quest progression on one character while I decided what to be, instead of all the choices for your character being so permanent. I don't know how class changing would work, but I definitely feel that appearance and race changing should be added. Simply for making a character appear exactly the way you want at any given time.
They should try and do something like they did in Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion were just before you leave the starting area you can go back and re-do your character and skills etc......
Come to think of it, that's very true. They've done it before, why not now? They could offer a last chance to change your appearance at some milestone, like level 10 when you unlock PvP.
ExactlyFirestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
At one stage I made a great look a like of the witcher. Everything looked perfect I mean everything. But half way through the game at level 15 I noticed the eye's were squinting and funny enough I didn't even touch the eye section in the character creation menu. Just that small detail made my character look absolutely ridiculous and it was highly noticeable.
I was the same way. I started out with a DK, but wanted to try a Templar. Then at about level 13ish I made a NB and stuck with that for awhile too. Then I realized I never tried out the DK's class skills because I didn't know what I was doing then, so I went back to DK and made it look the way I wanted to look finally and have stuck with it ever since. Sometimes it just takes so much experimentation to find what you like, and I find it a bit absurd that character recreation wasn't put in the game from the start. I would've liked to keep all my quest progression on one character while I decided what to be, instead of all the choices for your character being so permanent. I don't know how class changing would work, but I definitely feel that appearance and race changing should be added. Simply for making a character appear exactly the way you want at any given time.
They should try and do something like they did in Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion were just before you leave the starting area you can go back and re-do your character and skills etc......
Come to think of it, that's very true. They've done it before, why not now? They could offer a last chance to change your appearance at some milestone, like level 10 when you unlock PvP.
Exactly, They should give you a taste up to level 5 or 10 and if you don't like you're class or appearance they should offer you a change. It help SO much.
Firestorm612 wrote: »ExactlyFirestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »Firestorm612 wrote: »I feel that appearance changing is a MUST, and maybe race too. The majority of people want to be able to have these choices it seems. And it took several characters and class experimenting for me to figure out exactly how everything worked and what I wanted to be. Being able to change those things freely on a character would be great, spice things up a bit for the people who don't like to stick with one thing for a long time, but still keep their character's progress.
I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
Exactly! A lot of people have to feel it out, experiment for awhile to find what they want. And your character being so permanent from the beginning seems to dwarf that style of play. Especially for people just starting out, who don't know the intricacies of everything. Skill and Class wise at least.
At one stage I made a great look a like of the witcher. Everything looked perfect I mean everything. But half way through the game at level 15 I noticed the eye's were squinting and funny enough I didn't even touch the eye section in the character creation menu. Just that small detail made my character look absolutely ridiculous and it was highly noticeable.
I was the same way. I started out with a DK, but wanted to try a Templar. Then at about level 13ish I made a NB and stuck with that for awhile too. Then I realized I never tried out the DK's class skills because I didn't know what I was doing then, so I went back to DK and made it look the way I wanted to look finally and have stuck with it ever since. Sometimes it just takes so much experimentation to find what you like, and I find it a bit absurd that character recreation wasn't put in the game from the start. I would've liked to keep all my quest progression on one character while I decided what to be, instead of all the choices for your character being so permanent. I don't know how class changing would work, but I definitely feel that appearance and race changing should be added. Simply for making a character appear exactly the way you want at any given time.
They should try and do something like they did in Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion were just before you leave the starting area you can go back and re-do your character and skills etc......
Come to think of it, that's very true. They've done it before, why not now? They could offer a last chance to change your appearance at some milestone, like level 10 when you unlock PvP.
Exactly, They should give you a taste up to level 5 or 10 and if you don't like you're class or appearance they should offer you a change. It help SO much.
It would definitely prevent you from having to start the game over on multiple characters just looking for a good appearance.
NO! This is stupid!
Race change = Easy way to boost XP gain.
Appearance change = Changing adornment or hairstyles is ok but everything else...NO!
Alliance change = NOOO! This takes the PR out of RPG, and that leaves you with something worse than CoD. The whole point is you fight for your Alliance, and it would be stupid if you could change. So you become a Dominion Hero and change to Daggerfall Covenant. Do you just lose they title or do you become a Dominion Hero that attacks the Dominion? Or do you get the Covenant Hero even though you have done nothing for the Covenant? STUPID IDEA.
Sorry, but there is no other way for me to express the ridiculousness of this idea.
NO! This is stupid!
Race change = Easy way to boost XP gain.
Appearance change = Changing adornment or hairstyles is ok but everything else...NO!
Alliance change = NOOO! This takes the PR out of RPG, and that leaves you with something worse than CoD. The whole point is you fight for your Alliance, and it would be stupid if you could change. So you become a Dominion Hero and change to Daggerfall Covenant. Do you just lose they title or do you become a Dominion Hero that attacks the Dominion? Or do you get the Covenant Hero even though you have done nothing for the Covenant? STUPID IDEA.
Sorry, but there is no other way for me to express the ridiculousness of this idea.
If you say so man, if you say so.
NO! This is stupid!
Race change = Easy way to boost XP gain.
Appearance change = Changing adornment or hairstyles is ok but everything else...NO!
Alliance change = NOOO! This takes the PR out of RPG, and that leaves you with something worse than CoD. The whole point is you fight for your Alliance, and it would be stupid if you could change. So you become a Dominion Hero and change to Daggerfall Covenant. Do you just lose they title or do you become a Dominion Hero that attacks the Dominion? Or do you get the Covenant Hero even though you have done nothing for the Covenant? STUPID IDEA.
Sorry, but there is no other way for me to express the ridiculousness of this idea.
If you say so man, if you say so.
You are only saying that because my points are all valid and you have nothing else to say back.
And I never said you had to agree with me, just giving my honest, and valid, opinion.
NO! This is stupid!
Race change = Easy way to boost XP gain.
Appearance change = Changing adornment or hairstyles is ok but everything else...NO!
Alliance change = NOOO! This takes the PR out of RPG, and that leaves you with something worse than CoD. The whole point is you fight for your Alliance, and it would be stupid if you could change. So you become a Dominion Hero and change to Daggerfall Covenant. Do you just lose they title or do you become a Dominion Hero that attacks the Dominion? Or do you get the Covenant Hero even though you have done nothing for the Covenant? STUPID IDEA.
Sorry, but there is no other way for me to express the ridiculousness of this idea.
If you say so man, if you say so.
You are only saying that because my points are all valid and you have nothing else to say back.
And I never said you had to agree with me, just giving my honest, and valid, opinion.
Race change? Play the quests in greenshade, you will find a dunmer there who if you pay attention changes his race to argonian (trying for khajiit, but getting the alchemy wrong...). So there IS an lore-conform precedent. In the game. Thus all "this is stupid" arguments are kinda invalid... (note to people: make "I don't like it" arguments instead...)But...frankly, race change does not make any sense whatsoever even after taking fantasy setting and magic into account. One could change class (though feudal system in Tamriel likely is not known for social mobility), perhaps gender, but race? Nonsense.
As for alliance change, true samurai does not change his allegiance like dirty socks!!! Though ZOS sure could add fourth alliance, The Mud, that spineless people who can not make up their mind could swap to.
^THIS^I lost count how many time's I've made a character and then saw them in live game and look's nothing like my actual character I made. Hopefully at some stage it will be added.
NO! This is stupid!
Race change = Easy way to boost XP gain.
Appearance change = Changing adornment or hairstyles is ok but everything else...NO!
Alliance change = NOOO! This takes the PR out of RPG, and that leaves you with something worse than CoD. The whole point is you fight for your Alliance, and it would be stupid if you could change. So you become a Dominion Hero and change to Daggerfall Covenant. Do you just lose they title or do you become a Dominion Hero that attacks the Dominion? Or do you get the Covenant Hero even though you have done nothing for the Covenant? STUPID IDEA.
Sorry, but there is no other way for me to express the ridiculousness of this idea.
Yeah, maybe the class change was a bit silly. But other than that I hope race, alliance and appearance change happens.miked83b14_ESO wrote: »NO! This is stupid!
Race change = Easy way to boost XP gain.
Appearance change = Changing adornment or hairstyles is ok but everything else...NO!
Alliance change = NOOO! This takes the PR out of RPG, and that leaves you with something worse than CoD. The whole point is you fight for your Alliance, and it would be stupid if you could change. So you become a Dominion Hero and change to Daggerfall Covenant. Do you just lose they title or do you become a Dominion Hero that attacks the Dominion? Or do you get the Covenant Hero even though you have done nothing for the Covenant? STUPID IDEA.
Sorry, but there is no other way for me to express the ridiculousness of this idea.
Only thing ridiculous is a class change. Full appearance change, race change and even an alliance change is not ridiculous what so ever. This is an MMO. People invest a lot of time and money into games of this genre and to not have these options is simply absurd. People want to have the option to pay to change their alliance because their friends are on a certain side, change their race because they respec their character and a more viable race suits their new build or change their character's appearance because they've lost their passion to play them due to their looks. Just because these changes break realism is simply not a strong enough argument. MMO's are games played for many years with the same characters you created from the very beginning. These characters are constantly changing and evolving and these paid services are required in order to ensure your longevity and satisfaction with these characters.
Lord_Draevan wrote: »I think when you complete Cadwell's Gold you should be allowed to use the Light of Meridia crystal in the Harborage for an alliance change. But you can only use it once. Once you switch, that's it, that character is permanently a member.
And ZOS has said an appearance/hair change option is coming... eventually.