PVP is unplayable

X_NOVIA_X

PVP on Xbox is completely broken. How does an exploit that ruins the game so badly (camouflage Hunter) not get an immediate hotfix? What do people pay for? Entire groups of vr14's are just launching caltrops with camouflage Hunter. If they don't fix it I don't see how anything will get fixed.

JoffyToffy69

Or that on xbox most campaigns are one side dominant. There is 2 campaigns I'm in, on separate characters, both are one side dominant. The dominant side on both have gone past the gate and camp/troll anyone who enters. Occasionally they are pushed back to the gate, but morale is low in the weaker side, causing many to leave pvp, making it harder for the few that remain.
(I don't really care as I can get kills easy without needing to travel, but I'm sure it's annoying for others)

sirston

JoffyToffy69 wrote: »

Or that on xbox most campaigns are one side dominant. There is 2 campaigns I'm in, on separate characters, both are one side dominant. The dominant side on both have gone past the gate and camp/troll anyone who enters. Occasionally they are pushed back to the gate, but morale is low in the weaker side, causing many to leave pvp, making it harder for the few that remain.
(I don't really care as I can get kills easy without needing to travel, but I'm sure it's annoying for others)

welcome to Zenimax a company that could care less about its players Then EA.
I suggest you look forward to next phantasy star universe online 2 for consoles then this game at its current state.

AgentRay

It is curious why they don't fix the one shot kill exploit for pvp at least.

On the faction dominant issue imo they should merge a campaign or 2. On the faction dominated campaigns the issue seems to come down to # of ppl playing in the factions. When more people join PVP open /unlock another campaign.

Sithisvoid

Not sure why ppl use exploits like this that take zero skill.

phairdon

Unfortunately it's not only this game which suffers from disparity when it comes to server populations. More often than not, players gravitate toward the most powerful side or else, in the case of this game, one alliance could more popular for another reason.

Pman85

There is a player running around RIGHT NOW one shotting entire clusters of players with caltrops and this exploit. He is currently level 17. the most i have seen this BS has been the last few days. one simple hit for 400dmg and watch camo hunter hit 3 times for 9k each.


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UltimaJoe777

Most campaigns period are dominated by 1 faction which is good for now while Cyrodiil bonuses can be used outside Cyrodiil. For this reason though only a couple of campaigns are filled on all 3 sides but even then one side has the advantage and maintains it pretty well but not as utterly completely.

As for taking advantage of and using exploits such as cold fire siege weapons and camouflage hunter they think it makes them awesome when in fact they are just life and virtual life's b**ch.

Dahkoht

Again , worse than the players abusing it , is the company that has ignored this known bug , reported bug , and just continues to stick their head in the sand.

X_NOVIA_X

It's just rediculous now. If I was the owner of ZOS Id be embarrassed. Even when I report people it says error. And now im noticing my leaderboard ranks plummet from top 40 to the 100's. The abusers need to have their scores wiped for the duration of their campaigns.

iTzStevey

Haven't been killed by this....yet. Seen a hell of a lot more people using caltrops in pvp than before though, was wondering why. Personally i think this should be fixed ASAP along with the removal/disabling of PC transfer players on consoles. There was a vet 14 sorc literally tanking like 10 people attacking him last night just because hes transfered, with his champ points ofcourse. pathetic.

SkepticalGlenn

I've gotten out of soooooooooooo many situations with my invisibility! haha. but to be fair can't everyone unlock that invisibility? its like a lvl 1 ability. Just invest a skill point in it and use it in pvp.

SkepticalGlenn

JoffyToffy69 wrote: »

Or that on xbox most campaigns are one side dominant. There is 2 campaigns I'm in, on separate characters, both are one side dominant. The dominant side on both have gone past the gate and camp/troll anyone who enters. Occasionally they are pushed back to the gate, but morale is low in the weaker side, causing many to leave pvp, making it harder for the few that remain.
(I don't really care as I can get kills easy without needing to travel, but I'm sure it's annoying for others)

I'm in hestra 90 day right now and I see it flip flop all the time. I've never seen the fight taken to anyone's gate.

JacksonCarter13

@zos only listens or pays attention when you bash them or give then some real criticism. That's when they remove your post and give you a warning like you've actually done something. Other than that your wrong and they won't even consider your opinions. Im to deep to quit. But I could do better in my sleep. In my profession if this ever happened your fired on the spot. Like I've said before your either along for the ride or your not. #fixyourgame

Zsymon

It's really not about ZOS not paying attention or not caring, of course they care about exploits in their game, it is just that they need time to come up with a solution that doesn't cause even more problems. People think it is so easy to solve these problems, but those are people who've never worked on a computer game.

ZOS may be somewhat slow with their fixes, but we don't know how hard it is to implement these fixes. ZOS proved that they do care about our opinions, even if they are not very good at showing that through proper communication. They keep implementing things we ask for over and over, sometimes to the detriment of the game even, because most players honestly don't know what's best for a huge game like this.

Teiji

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Not sure why ppl use exploits like this that take zero skill.

Because of ToS loop holes, they can do it and never get punished in PvP, PvE and PvM.

PTS will be a race of who can find the Imperial City exploit.

We had Sharpened for months, then Nirnhoned, now it's one hand mace for dual wield and 2h mace, and Camo Hunter.

Will the madness never end!? Clavicus Vile, we beseech you, stop teh boogs!

Tandor

In any game with PvP developers will want to do the right thing, which is to step back from the complaints and take a balanced look at the overall situation including the effect on other aspects of the game that any form of fixes or re-balancing would have, as well as basing their decisions on their own data logs rather than just the forum complaints of those on the losing side. I imagine that this is something that ZOS are looking at, but it would doubtless be good if they confirmed that they were doing so.

eliisra

Pman85 wrote: »

There is a player running around RIGHT NOW one shotting entire clusters of players with caltrops and this exploit. He is currently level 17. the most i have seen this BS has been the last few days. one simple hit for 400dmg and watch camo hunter hit 3 times for 9k each.


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Kind of of topic, but you you can't have Caltrops + Camo Hunter at level 17. It's not physically possible to reach Assault/Fighters Guild level 6 that early. He must be war rank 17, because that's the number you see on your death recap, not the players actual level. The player is probably VR14.

ItsRejectz

It's probably the same on other platforms...But EU xbox is a mess at the moment because of this one exploit. Most who play on it are aware the EP emp on xbox EU azura is doing this exploit and taking down full zergs with it.

History shows zenimax are very slow at dealing with stuff like this and most of the time waiting to fix it via a scheduled update rather than a priority hotfix. I know something though, if it's not fixed by the launch of IC there are going to be some serious issues

JamilaRaj

Tnoviaub17_ESO wrote: »

PVP on Xbox is completely broken. How does an exploit that ruins the game so badly (camouflage Hunter) not get an immediate hotfix? What do people pay for? Entire groups of vr14's are just launching caltrops with camouflage Hunter. If they don't fix it I don't see how anything will get fixed.

Some things occasionally do get fixed, after months or agony, but do.

olemanwinter

Tnoviaub17_ESO wrote: »

PVP on Xbox is completely broken. How does an exploit that ruins the game so badly (camouflage Hunter) not get an immediate hotfix? What do people pay for? Entire groups of vr14's are just launching caltrops with camouflage Hunter. If they don't fix it I don't see how anything will get fixed.

Wasn't there a thread about 36 hours ago saying this wasn't even happening on console yet? ;-P

Zsymon

That player was not lvl17, he was VR14 war rank 17.

People need to inform themselves properly before complaining.

Korah_Eaglecry

Zsymon wrote: »

It's really not about ZOS not paying attention or not caring, of course they care about exploits in their game, it is just that they need time to come up with a solution that doesn't cause even more problems. People think it is so easy to solve these problems, but those are people who've never worked on a computer game.

ZOS may be somewhat slow with their fixes, but we don't know how hard it is to implement these fixes. ZOS proved that they do care about our opinions, even if they are not very good at showing that through proper communication. They keep implementing things we ask for over and over, sometimes to the detriment of the game even, because most players honestly don't know what's best for a huge game like this.

There are bugs in this game that has been here since beta. Some of them gamebreaking. And now those bugs have been brought over with the game to Console. Theyve had their time.

Excusing the lack of tenacity that they go after gamebreaking bugs is just sad. This company has made a name for themselves as being out of touch and being full of it. The QuakeCon Panel the other day was a great example of how the playerbase in general reacts to ZOS. And for good reason.

Samadhi

Tnoviaub17_ESO wrote: »

PVP on Xbox is completely broken. How does an exploit that ruins the game so badly (camouflage Hunter) not get an immediate hotfix? What do people pay for? Entire groups of vr14's are just launching caltrops with camouflage Hunter. If they don't fix it I don't see how anything will get fixed.

Tell ZOS the glitch is making it so that grinding certain PvE mobs with glitch active disproportionately increases EXP gains.
It'll be patched within 24 hours that way.

Aimelin

Samadhi wrote: »

Tnoviaub17_ESO wrote: »

PVP on Xbox is completely broken. How does an exploit that ruins the game so badly (camouflage Hunter) not get an immediate hotfix? What do people pay for? Entire groups of vr14's are just launching caltrops with camouflage Hunter. If they don't fix it I don't see how anything will get fixed.

Tell ZOS the glitch is making it so that grinding certain PvE mobs with glitch active disproportionately increases EXP gains.
It'll be patched within 24 hours that way.

This made me laugh so hard, but sadly it's more than likely true

Averya_Teira

iTzStevey wrote: »

Haven't been killed by this....yet. Seen a hell of a lot more people using caltrops in pvp than before though, was wondering why. Personally i think this should be fixed ASAP along with the removal/disabling of PC transfer players on consoles. There was a vet 14 sorc literally tanking like 10 people attacking him last night just because hes transfered, with his champ points ofcourse. pathetic.

People PAID to get transfers, they can't disable their transfer, that would be illegal...

Samadhi wrote: »

Tnoviaub17_ESO wrote: »

PVP on Xbox is completely broken. How does an exploit that ruins the game so badly (camouflage Hunter) not get an immediate hotfix? What do people pay for? Entire groups of vr14's are just launching caltrops with camouflage Hunter. If they don't fix it I don't see how anything will get fixed.

Tell ZOS the glitch is making it so that grinding certain PvE mobs with glitch active disproportionately increases EXP gains.
It'll be patched within 24 hours that way.

HA ! Sad because it's true...