[Update 1.7] - Stamplars - Redguard, Orc or Imperial?

Cuyler

In the next update orc will be getting a 4% increase to melee damage in it's racial passives. Will this make them the min/maxers race of choice for stamplars in the future or will Reguards remain the stamplar kings?

Redguard:
Restore stamina on hit
Increase max stam by 10%
Incease stam recovery in combat by 9%

Orc:
Increase HP recovery in combat by 30%
Increase max HP and stam by 6%
Increase sprint speed by 10%, reduce sprint cost by 12%, increase melee damage by 4%

Imperial:
Restore Life on Melee hit
Increase Max stam by 10%
Increase max HP by 12%

RoyJade

Actually, redguard will rest the better Stamplar race with a high stamina (around 30k), if I remember. Orc will be just a few less powerful, but really only a few.
Sadly, CP and the stamina increase will boost redguard more than orc.

lolo_01b16_ESO

Imperial > Redguard as soon as you have enough cp to sustain your jabs without the redguard passive.
Imperial > Orc as soon as you have enough stamina (~30k).

Cuyler

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Imperial > Redguard as soon as you have enough cp to sustain your jabs without the redguard passive.
Imperial > Orc as soon as you have enough stamina (~30k).

Updated title and description. Unfortunately can't edit poll options.....thanks for the input totally forgot about imperial...derp

Seaber

Orc

4% melee dmg is far stronger than 4% max stamina and you don't need stamina sustain passives when you have the champion system so orc will be the best dps race in 1.7

Cuyler

Seaber wrote: »

4% melee dmg is far stronger than 4% max stamina and you don't need stamina sustain passives when you have the champion system so orc will be the best dps race in 1.7

I think that redguard isn't even 4% more max stam....for example, Orcs 6% increase to max HP can be converted to stam anyways (via attributes) making Orcs increase to stam theoretically 12% (2%>redguard).

Looking at Imperial it's more like a 24% increase to stam (12% HP converted to stam). Making Imperial 12%>Orc.

So my question now:
Is 4% increase to melee damage>12% max stam? (In the case of Orc vs. Imperial)
and/or in other words,
Is 4% increase to melee damage> ~2500-3500 increase to stamina?

Sandshark95

You forgot one!


Khajiit:

Has a tail
Possesses unique ability to unfailingly refer to oneself in the third person
Is a giant cat
Umm...Crit Damage?
Has a TAIL...and claws


CAT-plars >> all other-plars XD

notimetocare

Sandshark95 wrote: »

You forgot one!


Khajiit:

Has a tail
Possesses unique ability to unfailingly refer to oneself in the third person
Is a giant cat
Umm...Crit Damage?
Has a TAIL...and claws


CAT-plars >> all other-plars XD

ahhahahahahahahah crit *dies form laughter*

Imperial for stam and tanks, hands down. Bosmer make a good pvp alternative as NB, but nothing will touch the 28k stam I can run on my temp with still having 20k health

Cuyler

notimetocare wrote: »

Sandshark95 wrote: »

You forgot one!


Khajiit:

Has a tail
Possesses unique ability to unfailingly refer to oneself in the third person
Is a giant cat
Umm...Crit Damage?
Has a TAIL...and claws


CAT-plars >> all other-plars XD

ahhahahahahahahah crit *dies form laughter*

Imperial for stam and tanks, hands down. Bosmer make a good pvp alternative as NB, but nothing will touch the 28k stam I can run on my temp with still having 20k health

Is 4% increase to melee damage> ~2500-3500 increase to stamina?

This is the difference in comparison to orc vs. imperial. I get it that imperial would have more max stam, but that is not the only determination of final damage output.