How do you do a Temp DPS / Healer build under 1.6?

PlagueMonk

As my Templar approaches cap level I don't know how to spec him anymore (I was doing a split build while leveling)

I want to continue my 2H Axe DPS smashing death build but if I invest heavily in Stam, I will not be able to be able to invest in Mag to be a good healer. This was of course much easier pre 1.6 with soft caps but with the cap gloves off, I don't see how I can have both anymore.

So how do others balance the two sides with attribute pts, gear, glyphs, etc?

WyldfireWyrm

I don't see a way to balance stamina and magicka without seriously gimping your effectiveness. I suppose you can balance both and have mediocre damage and mediocre off healing, but you'll never be a main healer or top the DPS charts.

Francis_Toliver

PlagueMonk wrote: »

As my Templar approaches cap level I don't know how to spec him anymore (I was doing a split build while leveling)

I want to continue my 2H Axe DPS smashing death build but if I invest heavily in Stam, I will not be able to be able to invest in Mag to be a good healer. This was of course much easier pre 1.6 with soft caps but with the cap gloves off, I don't see how I can have both anymore.

So how do others balance the two sides with attribute pts, gear, glyphs, etc?

You can't. Sorry but the game is set up so if you want to be a healer you must run a magic build. All healing skills come off the magic pool and are magic based (either resto staff or restoring light).

You can stamina dps a Templar and keep a Breath of Life on you bar for emergencies, but full on healer? No.

You can go Magic dps and healer pretty easily as the same things that boost healing boost spell damage as well. My Breton healer is a terror with her radiant destruction topping out in the mid to high 20K range. She typically doesn't do dps (she is a healer) but when she does choose to go that route, well its pretty overwhelming outside of undaunted/trails at vet level.

Wish I had better news for you but your correct, with the soft caps gone its become an either/or kind of game. Stamina or Magicka but not both. I miss the mixed builds but the I still enjoy the game as it is very much.

PlagueMonk

WyldfireWyrm wrote: »

I don't see a way to balance stamina and magicka without seriously gimping your effectiveness. I suppose you can balance both and have mediocre damage and mediocre off healing, but you'll never be a main healer or top the DPS charts.

Hence my dilemma. So what did all the hybrid Temps do post 1.6? (who used to be equally good at healing/DPS) Did they have to choose a single role?

and I don't care about doing ROLFSTOMP MAX UBER DPS........respectable is fine but can I even obtain that and still be a good healer? Can an entirely different gear set up make up the deficit? So I split my stats and then have mag healer gear and stam DPS gear?

SugaComa

You could split quite well and drop your health to minimum and bump it with food supplement every hour or two but to that you are going to have go always be paired up with a tsnk/DPS while you play healer or a healer while you DPS

You won't be great but you will get by

I've split mine and for none VR content it works well , even solo most quests, I do struggle with public dungeon bosses though, n get frustrated when other players sneak by instead of helping me out.

WyldfireWyrm

SugaComa wrote: »

You could split quite well and drop your health to minimum and bump it with food supplement every hour or two but to that you are going to have go always be paired up with a tsnk/DPS while you play healer or a healer while you DPS

You won't be great but you will get by

I've split mine and for none VR content it works well , even solo most quests, I do struggle with public dungeon bosses though, n get frustrated when other players sneak by instead of helping me out.

It is definitely doable pre-veteran ranks, but it's a struggle. Once into the veteran ranks though, I don't think it will be possible. Neither the DPS not heals of the OP's character will high enough to do a good job in either.

PlagueMonk wrote: »

Hence my dilemma. So what did all the hybrid Temps do post 1.6? (who used to be equally good at healing/DPS) Did they have to choose a single role?

and I don't care about doing ROLFSTOMP MAX UBER DPS........respectable is fine but can I even obtain that and still be a good healer? Can an entirely different gear set up make up the deficit? So I split my stats and then have mag healer gear and stam DPS gear?

As stated above, you can split your resources in the pre-veteran rank content, but it's tough to pull off. However, it sounds like you're already in the veteran ranks. Personally speaking, I know I wouldn't want a build like this playing a major role in my group. The veteran content will make it feel like a nightmare to try and do decent damage, and you'll do significantly less damage than any other pure magicka/stamina build in any class. And forget being the main healer. You won't have the magicka pool to do anything more than off heal, and even then, your heals won't hit nearly as hard as a pure magicka healer.

Unfortunately the split resource builds became incredibly inefficient with the removal of caps.

Flaminir

PlagueMonk wrote: »

WyldfireWyrm wrote: »

I don't see a way to balance stamina and magicka without seriously gimping your effectiveness. I suppose you can balance both and have mediocre damage and mediocre off healing, but you'll never be a main healer or top the DPS charts.

Hence my dilemma. So what did all the hybrid Temps do post 1.6? (who used to be equally good at healing/DPS) Did they have to choose a single role?

and I don't care about doing ROLFSTOMP MAX UBER DPS........respectable is fine but can I even obtain that and still be a good healer? Can an entirely different gear set up make up the deficit? So I split my stats and then have mag healer gear and stam DPS gear?

To be very clear.... you can do both DPS & heals....

BUT... you would have to be a magicka build.

As everybody has said, at vet level what becomes totally gimped & nonviable is a stamina/magicka hybrid.

On a personal note my Templar does both DPS & Heals... she's mainly a healer, but does pretty decent dps now I've tweaked her a bit. But again... all magicka. You can then build around max magicka / spell power as those help both increase your damage & effectiveness of your heals.