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In game Trading
How about a special area completely dedicated to player trading within the game at the moment it so difficult you either have to join multiple trading guilds (and hope they are still functioning) or stand in the middle of a city area shouting your wares over thr chat like some bloody street grocer. Dont even get me started on guild vendors trying to find something is just complete pot luck and if you do most of the time the price is beyond silly. I really want to see a good eso economy going. I love crafting things and i would love to tailor order equipment to peoples needs but my god its being made as awkward as possible.
If you have no immediate plans to sort out the trading within the game how about giving us a trading space in the forums. All you need is 3 sub sections for ps4 xb1 and pc. I imagine it would be greatly appreciated and well used!
If you have no immediate plans to sort out the trading within the game how about giving us a trading space in the forums. All you need is 3 sub sections for ps4 xb1 and pc. I imagine it would be greatly appreciated and well used!
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Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Theres one spot in Craglorn with 5 guild auction houses, then you can be part of 5 guild auction houses, so you should be able to find whatever you need from them.Edited by Sausage on July 22, 2015 8:58AM0 -
Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Zenimax has no intention of ever implementing a global auction house, or even adding a trade section to these forums. For these reasons, I created a multi-platform trading site several months ago. I'd appreciate a sign-up, but everyone is more than welcome to post as a guest. We are gaining new members and more traffic every day, mostly from console players. The links are in my signature below. If you can't see my signature, here is the link: ESO TradeEdited by Akavir_Sentinel on July 22, 2015 9:17AM0 -
See the fact people have to create there own sites for something that should be doable in game shows there is a problem. Was listening to a guy selling a motif yesterday and he got a tirade of abuse from several other players telling him to STFU and to go ****ing die.0
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King Bozo✭✭✭All we need is text chat and a lot of in game problems would be solved. Communication in zone over music, barking dogs, and crying children is unpleasant imo. I would love to buy some tempering alloy in zone by replying to a text chat message for god sakes.
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✭AFrostWolf wrote: »Why not just an Auction House.
That would be nice, but unfortunately it will never happen.0 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭AFrostWolf wrote: »Why not just an Auction House.
Guild Auction Houses first and main idea is innovation, and marketting, it draws people to the game as its something they have not never seen, also I think its going to be one thing what genre talks many year after and makes ESO unique. It gives purpose for guilds, and be a member of one, also increase zone activity as people need to travel around Tamriel, also if you're compare to Global Auction houses, where everything is childishly easy to find, it gives more challenge and trading/buying is interesting part of the game. Also Guild Auction Houses reduced undercutting and griefing and gives more purpose for crafters, crafters are actually needed.
Console problem is that theres no chat, so its so hard to find guilds. GAH's has worked year 1+ on PC.Edited by Sausage on July 23, 2015 3:59AM1 -
Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭I absolutely hate the guild trader system, but it would almost be bearable if they would make a kiosk with regional trader search where you could access all guild traders within that alliance area you are currently in. The very least they could do is add a search text box so you can search for a specific item by name.0 -
Kuroinu✭✭✭✭✭Something as simple as being able to mark things for sale that are in your inventory would be nice. Then when someone interacts with you they can select an option to check what you're selling.Edited by Kuroinu on July 23, 2015 5:42AM0 -
SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭It's a nightmare, my only suggestion would be to advertise what you're selling on third party trading site.
If selling via a guild trader put the guild and location of the trader
These sites are new,
There is eso-trade sorry don't know the webpage .
http://esotradingpost.uk
I set this up my self and still hoping to get more traffic and me members. All posts are tweeted so it gets a little more exposure than just site members. But we need more people to build it.0 -
Titansteele✭✭✭✭✭I have never needed to use anything other than addons to sell stuff and I know many other players that would say the same.
There have been cracking ideas`s to improve upon the existing bidding and traders mechanisms that are in place and hopefully some of them are picked up and made real in time.
I like the system as a whole, I have found some cracking deals in some of the guild traders that are out in the middle of nowhere and breathes life into the concept of "trading guilds"Guild Leader of The Twelve Knights, AD PVE, PVP and Trading Guild on the EU Mega Server
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✭✭✭✭✭The world of Elder Scrolls exists BEFORE electricity, BEFORE the 'internet' and BEFORE telephones... there is no way to explain how a 'global' trading mechanism would exist in Tamriel. Guild Traders spread out across Tamriel is a reality within ancient Tamriel. What did people do on earth before electricity, the internet and telephones... oh, that's right, they had to physically go to a store and shop, and if they didn't find what they wanted, they had to go to another store, etc, etc.CP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****1 -
Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭The world of Elder Scrolls exists BEFORE electricity, BEFORE the 'internet' and BEFORE telephones... there is no way to explain how a 'global' trading mechanism would exist in Tamriel. Guild Traders spread out across Tamriel is a reality within ancient Tamriel. What did people do on earth before electricity, the internet and telephones... oh, that's right, they had to physically go to a store and shop, and if they didn't find what they wanted, they had to go to another store, etc, etc.
Yet every guard in all of Tamriel is part of a global, instant communication Interpol. A guard in AD Auridon knows exactly what you just did to an innocent NPC in DC Shornhelm the instant you do it.....0 -
Cherryblossom✭✭✭✭✭
✭AFrostWolf wrote: »Why not just an Auction House.
Guild Auction Houses first and main idea is innovation, and marketting, it draws people to the game as its something they have not never seen, also I think its going to be one thing what genre talks many year after and makes ESO unique. It gives purpose for guilds, and be a member of one, also increase zone activity as people need to travel around Tamriel, also if you're compare to Global Auction houses, where everything is childishly easy to find, it gives more challenge and trading/buying is interesting part of the game. Also Guild Auction Houses reduced undercutting and griefing and gives more purpose for crafters, crafters are actually needed.
Console problem is that theres no chat, so its so hard to find guilds. GAH's has worked year 1+ on PC.
There is no innovation in a system that means any user needs to spend 1 hour trying to find what they want.
Contary to bringing people to the game, it turns people off the game, I play other MMO's and most who I play with no longer play ESO. But there is always moments where they have a good laugh about the ludicrous trading system.
Does not give a reason to be in a guild, only very large trading Guilds have access to the Guild traders most are full, or have level restrictions on joining. I believe there are about 140ish guild traders, this means they encompass 70k players (less as not all guilds will be full) so if there are 700k playing, this system only caters for 10% of the playerbase!
There is nothing challenging to spending 1 hour trying to find 1 thing you need, it's a ball ache, it's not fun.
This system gives no purpose to crafters, other than to craft their own gear as there is not a chance they can find what they want traveling for an hour.
Guild Traders has not worked on the PC, there just hasn't been any alternative! It was worse at the begining when there were no external traders, which limited everyone to a maximum of 2500 players to trade with! Which proves the whole system was flawed since conception.
In whole this system is seriously flawed, most I have talked do not even bother as it's so hard to use. They don't need to have an Auction House, but what they do need is a better system than do have currently.
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Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Didnt people try trading websites many times before on PC, and players didnt like them. Also whats wrong with spending 1 hour in Auction house when people spend 1000+ hour grinding CPs. I personally think the most whining comes from the fact, its so different, people are so used to server or global auction houses. And thats only a good thing. Also it gives purpose for crafters, every crafter what you get for your Guild Auction houses is valuable asset, this is exactly what crafters have dreamed forever, they dont just want to be another brick on the wall, other people just spit on them and move on.Edited by Sausage on July 23, 2015 2:00PM1 -
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✭Didnt people try trading websites many times before on PC, and players didnt like them. Also whats wrong with spending 1 hour in Auction house when people spend 1000+ hour grinding CPs. I personally think the most whining comes from the fact, its so different, people are so used to server or global auction houses. And thats only a good thing. Also it gives purpose for crafters, every crafter what you get for your Guild Auction houses is valuable asset, this is exactly what crafters have dreamed forever, they dont just want to be another brink on the wall, other people just spit on them and move on.
Where are these Crafted sets on the Guild Traders you talk about, I've never seen them.
If you don't know whats wrong with spending 1 hour trying to find one thing, you have to much time on your hands.....
The system is quite simply useless if you are a buyer, there is over inflated prices as there is so little competition.1 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Cherryblossom wrote: »Didnt people try trading websites many times before on PC, and players didnt like them. Also whats wrong with spending 1 hour in Auction house when people spend 1000+ hour grinding CPs. I personally think the most whining comes from the fact, its so different, people are so used to server or global auction houses. And thats only a good thing. Also it gives purpose for crafters, every crafter what you get for your Guild Auction houses is valuable asset, this is exactly what crafters have dreamed forever, they dont just want to be another brink on the wall, other people just spit on them and move on.
Where are these Crafted sets on the Guild Traders you talk about, I've never seen them.
If you don't know whats wrong with spending 1 hour trying to find one thing, you have to much time on your hands.....
The system is quite simply useless if you are a buyer, there is over inflated prices as there is so little competition.
So crafters should make sets from vr 1 all way to 14? Thats one reason why VRs gotta go. VRs was dumbest thing this game ever did.Edited by Sausage on July 23, 2015 2:07PM0 -
Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »The world of Elder Scrolls exists BEFORE electricity, BEFORE the 'internet' and BEFORE telephones... there is no way to explain how a 'global' trading mechanism would exist in Tamriel. Guild Traders spread out across Tamriel is a reality within ancient Tamriel. What did people do on earth before electricity, the internet and telephones... oh, that's right, they had to physically go to a store and shop, and if they didn't find what they wanted, they had to go to another store, etc, etc.
Yet every guard in all of Tamriel is part of a global, instant communication Interpol. A guard in AD Auridon knows exactly what you just did to an innocent NPC in DC Shornhelm the instant you do it.....
One word for you. "Magic"0 -
Riko_Futatabi wrote: »Something as simple as being able to mark things for sale that are in your inventory would be nice. Then when someone interacts with you they can select an option to check what you're selling.
I would like an ignore function i cant say how many times ive almost lost my backup main in a crafting breakdown mishap lol0 -
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✭RazielWolf88 wrote: »Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »The world of Elder Scrolls exists BEFORE electricity, BEFORE the 'internet' and BEFORE telephones... there is no way to explain how a 'global' trading mechanism would exist in Tamriel. Guild Traders spread out across Tamriel is a reality within ancient Tamriel. What did people do on earth before electricity, the internet and telephones... oh, that's right, they had to physically go to a store and shop, and if they didn't find what they wanted, they had to go to another store, etc, etc.
Yet every guard in all of Tamriel is part of a global, instant communication Interpol. A guard in AD Auridon knows exactly what you just did to an innocent NPC in DC Shornhelm the instant you do it.....
One word for you. "Magic"
Then they can use that same "magic" to implement a global auction house.0 -
Aneima✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »I absolutely hate the guild trader system, but it would almost be bearable if they would make a kiosk with regional trader search where you could access all guild traders within that alliance area you are currently in. The very least they could do is add a search text box so you can search for a specific item by name.
I totally agree. An auction house is so much more convenient. A person shouldn't have to use addons to search for an item in a guild kiosk. And for those who don't (like myself) I was left wasting time going from kiosk to kiosk and I'm sure I spent more gold cause I bought something that would have been cheaper else where. But whatever...it's what ZOS choose to do. It's just one of those things that leave people like me saying to myself what the hell where they thinking?0 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Cherryblossom wrote: »Didnt people try trading websites many times before on PC, and players didnt like them. Also whats wrong with spending 1 hour in Auction house when people spend 1000+ hour grinding CPs. I personally think the most whining comes from the fact, its so different, people are so used to server or global auction houses. And thats only a good thing. Also it gives purpose for crafters, every crafter what you get for your Guild Auction houses is valuable asset, this is exactly what crafters have dreamed forever, they dont just want to be another brink on the wall, other people just spit on them and move on.
Where are these Crafted sets on the Guild Traders you talk about, I've never seen them.
If you don't know whats wrong with spending 1 hour trying to find one thing, you have to much time on your hands.....
The system is quite simply useless if you are a buyer, there is over inflated prices as there is so little competition.
I can't speak for others but I usually try to keep a few pieces on our Guild Trader both for the income as well as the advertising value. I wouldn't be surprised if other crafters took that approach too (especially with Twice Born as it suggests you also have all traits for that piece of gear).0 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭Theres one spot in Craglorn with 5 guild auction houses, then you can be part of 5 guild auction houses, so you should be able to find whatever you need from them.
I'm in 4, and often they do NOT have what I want
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QueenAyrenn✭✭✭AFrostWolf wrote: »Why not just an Auction House.
Pretty sure this is what everyone is waiting on... guild traders were a nice thought, but they aren't practical."Except the story about the bear. That one's true."
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Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭QueenAyrenn wrote: »AFrostWolf wrote: »Why not just an Auction House.
Pretty sure this is what everyone is waiting on... guild traders were a nice thought, but they aren't practical.
Also pretty sure that they are going to be waiting a long time as ZOS said that Auction Houses are something they can't do given the limits of the megaserver technology that they are using.1