Today's patch

gard

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

Kobaal

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

They are trying to crack down on grinding.

UrQuan

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

There was probably an exploit in that event in the quest where you could get the enemies to keep spawning and gain massive amounts of XP. Funny thing is, I just did that quest on one of my alts on the weekend, and I really don't knwo what phase that might be... Was there a way to get daedra to keep spawning during the phase where you have to fight a boss harvester, a boss ogrim, and a boss watcher?

Epona222

UrQuan wrote: »

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

There was probably an exploit in that event in the quest where you could get the enemies to keep spawning and gain massive amounts of XP. Funny thing is, I just did that quest on one of my alts on the weekend, and I really don't knwo what phase that might be... Was there a way to get daedra to keep spawning during the phase where you have to fight a boss harvester, a boss ogrim, and a boss watcher?

Yes, this is exactly it - you could hold off closing the portals forever and grind xp and loot indefinitely.

notimetocare

Kobaal wrote: »

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

They are trying to crack down on grinding.

Fixing broken/exploitable things

Nestor

Don't worry, there are plenty of things to kill and get exp for in the FG quest line. I don't remember specifically where this was, but there was a point where you could just kill things over and over again without completing the quest, so it was more of an exploit than normal mobs that you would kill.

UrQuan

Epona222 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

There was probably an exploit in that event in the quest where you could get the enemies to keep spawning and gain massive amounts of XP. Funny thing is, I just did that quest on one of my alts on the weekend, and I really don't knwo what phase that might be... Was there a way to get daedra to keep spawning during the phase where you have to fight a boss harvester, a boss ogrim, and a boss watcher?

Yes, this is exactly it - you could hold off closing the portals forever and grind xp and loot indefinitely.

That makes sense. Every time I've done that quest I've been so focused on "kill these big baddies and get revenge on that evil **** who betrayed us" that I've rushed to close each portal before moving on to the next one

Epona222

UrQuan wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

There was probably an exploit in that event in the quest where you could get the enemies to keep spawning and gain massive amounts of XP. Funny thing is, I just did that quest on one of my alts on the weekend, and I really don't knwo what phase that might be... Was there a way to get daedra to keep spawning during the phase where you have to fight a boss harvester, a boss ogrim, and a boss watcher?

Yes, this is exactly it - you could hold off closing the portals forever and grind xp and loot indefinitely.

That makes sense. Every time I've done that quest I've been so focused on "kill these big baddies and get revenge on that evil **** who betrayed us" that I've rushed to close each portal before moving on to the next one

They could have achieved the same result by limiting the number of spawns from each portal.
The problem was that the minor spawns often run into the middle of the area, meaning that you could keep killing them without aggroing the boss by the portal.
I never did it myself, can't imagine anything more tedious to spend my time doing tbh! But some people I'm sure would have made the most of that situation.

gard

Epona222 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

There was probably an exploit in that event in the quest where you could get the enemies to keep spawning and gain massive amounts of XP. Funny thing is, I just did that quest on one of my alts on the weekend, and I really don't knwo what phase that might be... Was there a way to get daedra to keep spawning during the phase where you have to fight a boss harvester, a boss ogrim, and a boss watcher?

Yes, this is exactly it - you could hold off closing the portals forever and grind xp and loot indefinitely.

That makes sense. Every time I've done that quest I've been so focused on "kill these big baddies and get revenge on that evil **** who betrayed us" that I've rushed to close each portal before moving on to the next one

They could have achieved the same result by limiting the number of spawns from each portal.
The problem was that the minor spawns often run into the middle of the area, meaning that you could keep killing them without aggroing the boss by the portal.
I never did it myself, can't imagine anything more tedious to spend my time doing tbh! But some people I'm sure would have made the most of that situation.

Which would have been the right way to do it.

If they are going to make us fight something, there ought to be some xp associated with it.
Unless the spawn is a 1 shot kill kind of thing where there's no chance of dying.

All that aside, why does it matter to anyone if players choose to grind the same mobs over and over?
If they want to bore themselves silly let them have it it!

MCMancub

gard wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

gard wrote: »

Will of the Council: Enemies that spawn during one of the events during this quest will no longer grant experience or loot.

... Wait, what??

What am I missing here? I thought the whole point of playing this game was to gain experience and loot?

There was probably an exploit in that event in the quest where you could get the enemies to keep spawning and gain massive amounts of XP. Funny thing is, I just did that quest on one of my alts on the weekend, and I really don't knwo what phase that might be... Was there a way to get daedra to keep spawning during the phase where you have to fight a boss harvester, a boss ogrim, and a boss watcher?

Yes, this is exactly it - you could hold off closing the portals forever and grind xp and loot indefinitely.

That makes sense. Every time I've done that quest I've been so focused on "kill these big baddies and get revenge on that evil **** who betrayed us" that I've rushed to close each portal before moving on to the next one

They could have achieved the same result by limiting the number of spawns from each portal.
The problem was that the minor spawns often run into the middle of the area, meaning that you could keep killing them without aggroing the boss by the portal.
I never did it myself, can't imagine anything more tedious to spend my time doing tbh! But some people I'm sure would have made the most of that situation.

All that aside, why does it matter to anyone if players choose to grind the same mobs over and over?
If they want to bore themselves silly let them have it it!

It matters because ZOS has a target maximum XP/hour they think is acceptable for players, and if exploits in grinding allow players to exceed their target, then they nerf it.