A Vampire's Food for Thought

Ethromelb14_ESO

Zenimax, can you make it possible for vampire players to also be able to feed through conversation with an NPC, or perhaps a human player? Maybe add this to the skill line and call it seduction or something. Also, similar to the Mara ritual... If a vampire player creates a bond with a human player at the Lamae Shrine, that human can become the thrall food source for the vamp player. This would be useful during missions when our vampirism level is increasing and the vampire is unable to leave the dungeon at the moment. The human player that allows themselves to be fed on would suffer the same stun, and in the Character category it would be called 'weakened' lowering health by 10% perhaps for 1 minute. However that feeding would still be only to decrease a level of vampirism; so if a vamp player wanted to decrease all the way down to level 1, that would require 3 feedings and weaken the thrall human player by 40% for the same length of (1 minute worth) time. The team can either wait until the human recovers from being fed on or proceed despite the brief de-buff. Also, the severity would increase but not the length of time for a human to recover. This would require a vampire player to be wise about whom they choose to be their thrall, so that the player is not too weak to be able to handle the temporary consequence of the interaction. This interaction would also be done similar to a trade (not necessarily the menu), but a form of compliance before any feeding could commence. Lastly, this form of feeding would not be for the purpose of turning another player - It's just to incorporate a bit of lore, role-playing, team spirit, and unlimited option to vampires.

The human's benefit in this bonding is sort of like the "Big Brother" scenario when you feel more confident because your older sibling is there during a possible beef. This Character buff that is normally present could be called -Empowered- and it would give a 1-10% boost (based on the vampire's Vampirism skill line level) to all attributes when running with the vampire you're enthralled to. Sort of like the more powerful the vampire is, the more powerful and assured the human feels. Feel free to share if you like this idea or think it should be less.

Please keep an open-mind about this, as it is not without its penalty and therefore can be made to be fair and non-balance breaking. Especially since this option will ONLY be available with one human, and not just anyone. Thank you.

Pizzonage

1 minute doesn't really seen long enough a penalty as you are allowing someone to forego feeding correctly since you were willing to sit on level 4 for 3 hours all in all good idea I just feel either vamp or thrall would have to suffer a little extra for convenience.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Pizzonage wrote: »

1 minute doesn't really seen long enough a penalty as you are allowing someone to forego feeding correctly since you were willing to sit on level 4 for 3 hours all in all good idea I just feel either vamp or thrall would have to suffer a little extra for convenience.

Perhaps you're right, but I'm not saying that the time is written in stone, as it is up to Zenimax's discretion how long they would really want it to be. The way I visualized it, was that in a dungeon that's fast paced, a minute might feel a bit long. Nevertheless like I said it's up for debate.

How long do you think is fair and reasonable?

Ethromelb14_ESO

Pizzonage wrote: »

1 minute doesn't really seen long enough a penalty as you are allowing someone to forego feeding correctly since you were willing to sit on level 4 for 3 hours all in all good idea I just feel either vamp or thrall would have to suffer a little extra for convenience.

Also try to remember that we want human players to not be turned off from the idea of creating this bond. I figured a 10 to 40% de-buff is quite a heap of health to lose for 1 minute. Don't you think?

Pizzonage

1 minute you will literally just afk for too trivial im thinking 10+ but on the human side they should see a high risk high reward say less health or resource do to loss of blood but some buff due to a brief transference of power kind of thing or just base buff to character due to an affinity with your master. I know I wouldn't subject myself for 0 personal gain and I'm sure others would agree. Vamp side should suffer from a cd or some kind of negative due to feeding on the same thrall say less damage or less resource for repeated feedings first one is free but if you do it another time in a certain time period say 1 day night cycle in game roughly 6 hours thats 3x the average game session. Convenience must always cost if it didn't the normal way would die off.

Akavir_Sentinel

Why would you ever want to be at anything other than stage 4?

Pizzonage

@Akavir_Sentinel some people dislike it purely cosmetically others struggle with the health recovery. Myself I didn't notice either but I'm sure there are plenty of reasons they would choose not to be stage 4.

Forestd16b14_ESO

/loads silver bolt into dawnguard crossbow

I'm sorry what was that about feeding on me?

Pizzonage

Its not forced forest he is stating consensual. Your dawn guard would still only affect the vamp the thrall is not undead more like a portable dinner table with kung fu grip.